reworking UU

[Sian]

i've been thinking about if some UU's could use some slight finetuneing ... at the moment my minds is on about Indias Fast worker ... its 'wellknown' that the slower the map the 'less' better it is other than every others workers ...

i've been thinking of 2 ways they might be slighty better ...

1, let them keep the 2 but give them the 'ignore terrain movement cost' as per Mongol UU

2, let them keep the 2 and give them 25% faster improvements

what do people think of those ideas? to OP or UP?

[Stalker0]

The first idea could be useful, but I would never do the second. Increasing worker rates has too strong an advantage across the entire game.

The thing about the indian worker to remember is that its the only UU that lasts the entire game!! Personally even though its weaker on certain maps than others, its never so weak that it needs adjustment.

[Sian]

well ... it aren't because it's weak ...call it finetuning ...

[Supr49er]

I find the Fast Worker already powwerful enough. If you research all the improvement techs (Ag, AH, Mining, Hunting, Pottery, etc.) you can get a rapidly expanding and powerful civ.

[TM Moot]

the Fast Worker normally comes near the top of any 'Best / Favourite UU' poll, so it doesn't need any improving..

as said above, uniquely it lasts the whole game

[von Krysiak]

Actually I always play on fairly big map so they are strong enough...

[TriPp]

The Fastworker is a good UU! Often i save 1 turn on an improvment including roads, its potent in the early stages of the game. The point of the extra move isnt just to move farther but also to start improving faster. Saving a turn every time you have to move to the next job isnt bad imo especially for choppin and gettin to the next city.

Doesnt have the noticable impact alot of UU's have but i think the impact it has is big enough; i likem atleast.

[pi-r8]

I think I'm alone in this, but personally, I hate the fast worker. That being said, I don't think it would be possible to increase work rate, without making it OP. a 25% increase isn't going to do much. I think the only things that would affect would be mines, windmills, watermills, and plantations? Anything less than 4 turns, it won't do anything. I don't remember exactly how long most improvements take, though.

[say1988]

It probably depends on game speed (as well as Steam Engine [I believe this is the tech that reduces improvement time], Serfdom, and Hagia Sofia), but IIRC only [rail]roads take less than 4.

India's UU is very powerful if you are on a massive expansion campaign, but if you play on archipelago, tiny islands, high sea levels, lots of players, they get useless (only have at most a couple dozen improvements to build).