Advertisement
Civilization Fanatics' Center  

Go Back   Civilization Fanatics' Forums > CIVILIZATION IV > Civ4 - Creation & Customization > Civ4 - Project & Mod Development > Civ4 - Fall from Heaven

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old Feb 10, 2008, 10:25 AM   #1
desemondez
Trance Addict
 
desemondez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Singapore
Posts: 91
Single or multi-player?

I read some threads here before, discussing how the AI is incapable of properly utilising some of the races' traits/units/buildings/synergy etc

I'm a regular BTS player, and I feel the AI does a pretty solid job of posing a challenge. My question is, is FFH2's AI capable of posing a serious threat in most games? Is this game catered more towards single or multi-player? I did try a couple of games (single player)but stopped halfway because I made a couple of mistakes ( not specialising techs ) and wanted to try other races.

For those who play FFH2 multi-player, is there a way I can find friends/opponents to play against? Sad to say none of my friends are Civ fans, so I'm pretty much on my own here.

I also want to add that I realise this is a mod and Kael+co are not obliged to "serve" the community, so to speak, and I'm grateful of everything they and the rest of the community have contributed thus far.
desemondez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 10, 2008, 11:49 AM   #2
xienwolf
Deity
 
xienwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Location! Location!
Posts: 10,589
The game is designed for Single Player use. There are numerous aspects which may not work well with Multi-player, depending on your preferences (lots of random bonuses and whatnot).

However, the AI is not going to be tweaked for a little while yet, so at present doesn't do an amazing job across the board with everything possible. It will still surprise you some times, but not often will it make use of magic and the like very efficiently.

For multiplayer, many use Hamachi, or #erebus through the chat function in these boards.

Singleplayer can still be great fun, just be sure to play a level or 2 up from what you normally would in BtS.
xienwolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 10, 2008, 01:10 PM   #3
Mailbox
King
 
Mailbox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 872
Turning on the "No AI Building Requirements" is pretty necessary for a good game too.
Mailbox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 10, 2008, 01:29 PM   #4
TheJopa
Šumar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Croatia
Posts: 2,008
I still wish for one No-AI multiplayer game, with a dose of roleplaying. An epic clash of T4 armies late in the game, with magic used on both sides to maximum effect, and all tricks played on equal footing, with alliances that really matter, and allies that carry out plans together.
Well that might come true soon.
__________________
Play Fall from Heaven - The greatest mod for Civ4!
TheJopa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 11, 2008, 03:40 AM   #5
Humakty
Happy Goblin
 
Humakty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: CheeseLand, Lyon
Posts: 762
For the moment, I recommend playing with the armageddon counter disabled, because of the pestilence event. (kills every living unit in the world)
__________________
Ten times more numerous, by night and backstabbing !

Senior member of the G.L.I.N..
Humakty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 11, 2008, 04:32 AM   #6
Bringa
King
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 671
I find the game much more fun in multiplayer (with a bunch of home-brewn changes; see my "The Way We Play Multiplayer" thread). The AI is simply not fun to play against. Either it's a push-over or you can feel how much it is cheating to be a threat at all. The most fun I've had in multiplayer so far is in simple 1v1 matches on a small map. Every move counts, every decision can win or lose you the game. There's nothing quite like it.

As for finding players, yes #erebus on irc.irc-chat.net works, or you can post on these forums here (but that may work better for setting up a scheduled game, not for finding one RIGHT NOW), or you can harass people one by one on hamachi.
__________________
"My lines seem to be finding their way into many a signature - many times uncredited."
Bringa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 11, 2008, 05:04 AM   #7
TheJopa
Šumar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Croatia
Posts: 2,008
Quote:
The most fun I've had in multiplayer so far is in simple 1v1 matches on a small map. Every move counts, every decision can win or lose you the game. There's nothing quite like it.
Yes but I feel like it takes away much from Civ experience, making it too close to Age of Empires skirmishes, and not like massive diplomacy and development struggle civ is supposed to be.
__________________
Play Fall from Heaven - The greatest mod for Civ4!
TheJopa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 11, 2008, 07:54 AM   #8
desemondez
Trance Addict
 
desemondez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Singapore
Posts: 91
hmm alright i'll hang around on erebus and try to get some multiplayer games going... possibly with some AI too to keep diplomacy options open Thanks for answering my queries!
desemondez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 11, 2008, 01:14 PM   #9
dot
crossing the i's
 
dot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Schland.
Posts: 1,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by desemondez View Post
For those who play FFH2 multi-player, is there a way I can find friends/opponents to play against? Sad to say none of my friends are Civ fans, so I'm pretty much on my own here.
May I refer you to my signature or to here?



EDIT: dot, you moron, read the thread before posting!
__________________
Kind regards, .

Last edited by dot; Feb 11, 2008 at 01:23 PM. Reason: HI - Human Idiocy
dot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 11, 2008, 04:52 PM   #10
SwordofStriker
Prince
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 584
Quote:
Originally Posted by Humakty View Post
For the moment, I recommend playing with the armageddon counter disabled, because of the pestilence event. (kills every living unit in the world)
You know, I just had the pestilence event in a game, and I didn't notice a single loss. This is the event that talks about the graveyards overflowing right? I got scared when it happened because I had read on here that every living unit died when it occured. I looked and looked and looked and couldn't find anything missing from my army. This was a single player game though. I wonder if it's different in multi-player.

Last edited by SwordofStriker; Feb 11, 2008 at 04:56 PM.
SwordofStriker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2008, 12:51 AM   #11
Eldric IV
Chieftain
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 80
Insofar as I understand the issue, the Pestilence event triggers once per player (and AI, I think). So in a multiplayer game, it is really deadly. This bug never came up in testing because Kael usually tests on a duel map with only himself and one AI.
Eldric IV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2008, 06:18 AM   #12
Keilden
Chieftain
 
Keilden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 76
So is RP on multiplayer games common or is it all "pro" play?
Keilden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2008, 08:14 AM   #13
xienwolf
Deity
 
xienwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Location! Location!
Posts: 10,589
I have heard of a few groups who prefer to do more diplomatic games, but haven't heard anything about strictly RP playstyles. Many do "Pro" play sadly.
xienwolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2008, 12:26 PM   #14
TheJopa
Šumar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Croatia
Posts: 2,008
If there is interest we can make one RP game. I strongly dislike pro. And thats not only because I suck
__________________
Play Fall from Heaven - The greatest mod for Civ4!
TheJopa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2008, 12:36 PM   #15
xienwolf
Deity
 
xienwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Location! Location!
Posts: 10,589
I think the main limitation from pulling off an RP game is that most of the people who are interested in RP seem to self-mod a lot, so would have problems connecting I think that I should have some free time this weekend though, so I might re-install to clear up my personal touches and see about doing a nice big RP game with some interested people.
xienwolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2008, 12:49 PM   #16
TheJopa
Šumar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Croatia
Posts: 2,008
That is true, hehe, but with all those patches coming so quickly I personally decided to put it off a bit.
Second problem might be stability, I'm not sure how many players can be in without game overloading and kicking people out.
__________________
Play Fall from Heaven - The greatest mod for Civ4!
TheJopa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2008, 06:47 PM   #17
desemondez
Trance Addict
 
desemondez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Singapore
Posts: 91
What does a "pro" game consist of?
desemondez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2008, 09:43 PM   #18
xienwolf
Deity
 
xienwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Location! Location!
Posts: 10,589
Warmongers. And generally VERY planned moves, and a desire for no AI, Barbarians, Events, Unique Features....
xienwolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 13, 2008, 01:06 AM   #19
Keilden
Chieftain
 
Keilden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 76
They start wars for the sole reason to kill you. Not becuse you have stuff they need or anything else.
Keilden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 13, 2008, 01:29 AM   #20
TheJopa
Šumar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Croatia
Posts: 2,008
They are dark, evil and vicious!

Well experience is closer to warcraft 3 or AoE just turn based. So strict research order, build order, troops, troops, and attack. Game is in 99% cases over until midgame. I strongly resent that playstyle. It is not like you are leading a civilization to stand a test of time, just the opposite.
__________________
Play Fall from Heaven - The greatest mod for Civ4!
TheJopa is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Go Back Civilization Fanatics' Forums > CIVILIZATION IV > Civ4 - Creation & Customization > Civ4 - Project & Mod Development > Civ4 - Fall from Heaven > Single or multi-player?

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Multi Player -> Single Player Mknn Civ4 - Multiplayer & PBEM 2 Feb 28, 2008 06:35 PM
Why is it not possible to play multi-player saves over single player? killaer Civ4 - General Discussions 2 Dec 24, 2007 12:38 PM
Changeing a Single Player to Multi rujikin Civ3 - General Discussions 1 Jan 24, 2006 11:15 PM
Skybuck's first single player game review (A former civ3 conquest player woeh ! :) ) Skybuck Civ4 - General Discussions 10 Oct 27, 2005 05:31 AM
Single Player v Multi Player wtiberon Civ3 - General Discussions 18 Oct 28, 2003 05:25 AM


Advertisement

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
This site is copyright © Civilization Fanatics' Center.
Support CFC: Amazon.com | Amazon UK | Amazon DE | Amazon CA | Amazon FR