Best strategy vs. Germans?

Civddict · Jul 10, 2002, 11:12 AM

Other than manually assign Civs on startup, and not include them?

Whenever I get weaker than them, they will attack. Ruthless, militaristic and scientific.

Gastric ReFlux · Jul 10, 2002, 11:15 AM

Kill them early.

The Last Conformist · Jul 10, 2002, 11:26 AM

Try to make MPPs so that when they attack, they die.

Personally, the only times I've had troubles with the Germans are those when I've been playing the ol' blighters myself. For some reason I can't seem to do well with Germany or Japan. Must've read to many WWII books ...

Civddict · Jul 10, 2002, 11:41 AM

I have no luck with Japan myself either. They are so slow builders. I finish with no important Wonders built.

BCLG100 · Jul 10, 2002, 12:15 PM

build a huge militry and beat the s*** out of them

Civddict · Jul 10, 2002, 12:21 PM

sometimes (often) that is not possible.

Moonsinger · Jul 10, 2002, 12:39 PM

German is ruthless, no doubt. However, you can use them to your benefit. For example, in my game, I always trade with the German. Sometimes, I even give tech and resource to the German to help them build up their armies. As long there are a weaker civ than me, Germany will go to war with that civ first. Of course, that little civ will get other AIs to join force against Germany. So basically, the whole world eventually united against Germany.

They are all so busy fighting against each other and they forget that my civ even exist.

The funny part is that I'm the one who supply tech and resource to keep Germany alive (but AIs are too stupid to notice that).

Btw, Germany will eventually loose the war. Matter how strong they are, they can't possibly win when the whole world (except me) are against them.

Gastric ReFlux · Jul 10, 2002, 12:46 PM

I get more satisfaction out of reducing Otto to a city or two, then sometime late in the game give him the tech of Motorized Transport. He still hasn't quite seemed to learn that he's dependent upon my good graces to ever see a German Golden Age, and often remains furious with me, but I think it's just because he's not in touch with his inner child.

sabo · Jul 10, 2002, 12:53 PM

My solution is just to BE the germans and since I use culturally linked startups I never see the Japanese either. Being the Germans I usually have problems with Russia, they're always wanting to start a war with me, I just wait till I'm strong enough (panzers right around the corner) thenI reduce them to rubble.
Adios Cathrine the Great!

Civddict · Jul 10, 2002, 12:53 PM

moonsinger, you must be playing different game

I was strongest nation, military and by points and they still did attack me. English were way weaker, but they didn't attack them yet. probably good diplomacy.

Allemand · Jul 10, 2002, 12:54 PM

Against the Germans, I usually get some allies to fight them. Of course, I do that against anyone who declares war on me early in the game. Works like a charm, seldom do I have to kill any Germans.

The Germans are stubborn. Even when they are clearly beaten, they will continue to fight. In one game they attacked me early for no reason. I got the Egyptians, French, and Zulus to fight them. Many turns later, I felt so bad about the Germans plight that I offered them some resources. But they didn't want to pay my price. Too bad.

Moonsinger · Jul 10, 2002, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Civddict
moonsinger, you must be playing different game

I was strongest nation, military and by points and they still did attack me. English were way weaker, but they didn't attack them yet. probably good diplomacy.

I was playing French; historically, Germany should attack French, but he never did. I guess I must have done something right with diplomacy.

jpowers · Jul 10, 2002, 01:44 PM

To defeat any European imperialist:
Convince them to attack the Russians. Works evey time.

Gastric ReFlux · Jul 10, 2002, 04:02 PM

Now that I've thought about it (I do that sometimes), the kill them early strategy is good against all civs. If it works.

D9phoenix · Jul 10, 2002, 10:56 PM

Playing the germans right now in a monarch game.. I only built 1 city. I have captured every other city i control and razed atleast 5 so far. Btw i control 9 cities atm.

As with any AI all you have to do is mass troops and you can take any city from them, as usually the AI will only throw solo units at your cities so you can keep them lightly defended.

Frog Propaganda · Jul 10, 2002, 11:32 PM

Pretty simple really, seperate the Germans from their hard earned resources. They want to make billions of units and declare on everyone they see? Fine, let them attack with waves and waves of longbowmen in the modern ages. Makes the job of mopping them up just a little easier...

gonzo_for_civ · Jul 11, 2002, 12:08 AM

jsut cut them off from iron early and make a big(30-40) swordsmen assault on their pathetic and juvenile civilization.

Jul 10, 2002, 11:12 AM	#1
Civddict Prince Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 476	Best strategy vs. Germans? Other than manually assign Civs on startup, and not include them? Whenever I get weaker than them, they will attack. Ruthless, militaristic and scientific.

Jul 10, 2002, 11:26 AM	#3
The Last Conformist Irresistibly Attractive Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Not on your side Posts: 27,780	Try to make MPPs so that when they attack, they die. Personally, the only times I've had troubles with the Germans are those when I've been playing the ol' blighters myself. For some reason I can't seem to do well with Germany or Japan. Must've read to many WWII books ... __________________ Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else? CivIII stuff: Hexette (16x16 World Map), The Classic Maya Scenario, Resource gfx, Other gfx, ACW C3C

Jul 10, 2002, 12:15 PM	#5
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Jul 10, 2002, 12:53 PM	#9
sabo My Ancestors were Vikings Join Date: May 2002 Location: Minneapolis, City of Lakes Posts: 4,097 Images: 2	My solution is just to BE the germans and since I use culturally linked startups I never see the Japanese either. Being the Germans I usually have problems with Russia, they're always wanting to start a war with me, I just wait till I'm strong enough (panzers right around the corner) thenI reduce them to rubble. Adios Cathrine the Great! __________________ Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.-- SW

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Jul 10, 2002, 11:15 AM	#2
Gastric ReFlux Dispatch our Tech Staff Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 717	Kill them early.

Jul 10, 2002, 11:41 AM	#4
Civddict Prince Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 476	I have no luck with Japan myself either. They are so slow builders. I finish with no important Wonders built.

Jul 10, 2002, 12:21 PM	#6
Civddict Prince Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 476	sometimes (often) that is not possible.

Jul 10, 2002, 12:39 PM	#7
Moonsinger Settler Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 4,374	German is ruthless, no doubt. However, you can use them to your benefit. For example, in my game, I always trade with the German. Sometimes, I even give tech and resource to the German to help them build up their armies. As long there are a weaker civ than me, Germany will go to war with that civ first. Of course, that little civ will get other AIs to join force against Germany. So basically, the whole world eventually united against Germany. They are all so busy fighting against each other and they forget that my civ even exist. The funny part is that I'm the one who supply tech and resource to keep Germany alive (but AIs are too stupid to notice that). Btw, Germany will eventually loose the war. Matter how strong they are, they can't possibly win when the whole world (except me) are against them.

Jul 10, 2002, 12:46 PM	#8
Gastric ReFlux Dispatch our Tech Staff Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 717	I get more satisfaction out of reducing Otto to a city or two, then sometime late in the game give him the tech of Motorized Transport. He still hasn't quite seemed to learn that he's dependent upon my good graces to ever see a German Golden Age, and often remains furious with me, but I think it's just because he's not in touch with his inner child.

Jul 10, 2002, 12:54 PM	#11
Allemand Chief Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Olympia Posts: 218	Against the Germans, I usually get some allies to fight them. Of course, I do that against anyone who declares war on me early in the game. Works like a charm, seldom do I have to kill any Germans. The Germans are stubborn. Even when they are clearly beaten, they will continue to fight. In one game they attacked me early for no reason. I got the Egyptians, French, and Zulus to fight them. Many turns later, I felt so bad about the Germans plight that I offered them some resources. But they didn't want to pay my price. Too bad.

Jul 10, 2002, 01:44 PM	#13
jpowers Emperor Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Castle Aaaaaaaargh Posts: 1,491	To defeat any European imperialist: Convince them to attack the Russians. Works evey time.

Jul 10, 2002, 04:02 PM	#14
Gastric ReFlux Dispatch our Tech Staff Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 717	Now that I've thought about it (I do that sometimes), the kill them early strategy is good against all civs. If it works.

Jul 10, 2002, 10:56 PM	#15
D9phoenix Prince Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 487	Playing the germans right now in a monarch game.. I only built 1 city. I have captured every other city i control and razed atleast 5 so far. Btw i control 9 cities atm. As with any AI all you have to do is mass troops and you can take any city from them, as usually the AI will only throw solo units at your cities so you can keep them lightly defended.

Jul 10, 2002, 11:32 PM	#16
Frog Propaganda Grand Wizard of Apathy Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: In Soviet Russia, bombs drop you! Posts: 48	Pretty simple really, seperate the Germans from their hard earned resources. They want to make billions of units and declare on everyone they see? Fine, let them attack with waves and waves of longbowmen in the modern ages. Makes the job of mopping them up just a little easier...

Jul 11, 2002, 12:08 AM	#17
gonzo_for_civ Not too busy... Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,136	jsut cut them off from iron early and make a big(30-40) swordsmen assault on their pathetic and juvenile civilization.

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