Fall From Heaven Leader's Tale - Valledia the Even - Page 12

EverNoob · Jun 04, 2008, 12:52 AM

I wanted to get some concensus before continuing...

So I've razed Gaudium, the AV holy city. We now have access to the core of Perpentach's lands. If we're going to capture them, we have to capture all 4 of them because of their strong culture.

However, there's 2 other cities we really should capture: Straatus and Dormir. Perp is sending units in from Dormir which is really annoying, not to mention that it increases our war weariness having to kill the units he sends in.

I was hoping we'd have copper to speed up the war. As it stands, without copper, taking all of Perps cities in a protracted war will make our war weariness go up the roof.

So I wanted to get concensus on whether we slug it out and maybe switch out of City States when WW gets too high,
OR
do we take Straatus and Dormir, then sign a peace treaty and finish Perp when we have copper.

I'm inclined to sign the peace treaty and finish him when we get copper. It would be better for our economy.

stuge · Jun 04, 2008, 01:43 AM

Straatus+Domir->peace sounds good.

Ozbenno · Jun 04, 2008, 01:52 AM

What stuge said.

TheJopa · Jun 04, 2008, 02:35 AM

My vote for the early peace.

Immaculate · Jun 04, 2008, 02:45 AM

The mage's fireballs don't make copper irrelevent? If you can do it with fireballs, i say press it... but if we really need the copper, then stop. Would it be possible to take copper from perpentach early in a protracted war? That would be the best possibility in my opinion.

I.

TheJopa · Jun 04, 2008, 10:56 AM

As far as I know, we only have 4 fireballs per turn which is still not enough to make copper irrelevant.. Unless we can make more mages as we go, I say early peace.

·Imhotep· · Jun 04, 2008, 12:00 PM

Well, without CR promos it is hard to capture cities with high cultural defense even if the defenders are damaged by collateral damage. I'd vote for taking the two cities and come back later too - it will be a mop-up then anyway onxce we have advanced units.

Immaculate · Jun 05, 2008, 12:56 AM

Are we (did we) take diplomatic penalties for declaring war on Perp? if we did, then it might be worth a protracted defensive war for awhile- if not- then declare peace then come back for him later.

I.

Immaculate · Jun 06, 2008, 07:28 AM

I'm at a conference until the 14th and won't be able to view the thread (probably, maybe i will- not sure) or play until then. Please skip me if my turn comes up before i get back.

Thanks,
i.

·Imhotep· · Jun 06, 2008, 12:34 PM

Well, EverNoob should finish his turns anyway...

Rex rgis of Ter · Jun 08, 2008, 12:54 PM

I'm in hospital so I won't be able to get the game for about a week.

Ozbenno · Jun 08, 2008, 04:52 PM

Evernoob, you finishing your turns?

TheJopa · Jun 10, 2008, 12:05 PM

What to do now?

·Imhotep· · Jun 10, 2008, 12:07 PM

Well, Ozzy or Immaculate should play from TheJopa's save...

Ozbenno · Jun 10, 2008, 04:16 PM

I can take this Friday. If Immac can get to it earlier then go for it.

Ozbenno · Jun 11, 2008, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex rgis of Ter

I'm in hospital so I won't be able to get the game for about a week.

I missed this before, GET WELL SOON

Haven't heard from Immac. I'll play tomorrow and have a report together for Friday.

Ozbenno · Jun 11, 2008, 08:35 PM

OK, anyone remember what 0.31 patch we're on. I've yet to install 0.31 on the new laptop so need to be able to patch to the right level.

·Imhotep· · Jun 12, 2008, 08:01 AM

It's 0.31e.

Rex rgis of Ter · Jun 12, 2008, 03:23 PM

I'm out early and I have plenty of free time so I'll be back in the roster.

TheJopa · Jun 12, 2008, 03:35 PM

I'm glad everything is fine!

Jun 04, 2008, 12:52 AM	#221
EverNoob Prince Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 571	I wanted to get some concensus before continuing... So I've razed Gaudium, the AV holy city. We now have access to the core of Perpentach's lands. If we're going to capture them, we have to capture all 4 of them because of their strong culture. However, there's 2 other cities we really should capture: Straatus and Dormir. Perp is sending units in from Dormir which is really annoying, not to mention that it increases our war weariness having to kill the units he sends in. I was hoping we'd have copper to speed up the war. As it stands, without copper, taking all of Perps cities in a protracted war will make our war weariness go up the roof. So I wanted to get concensus on whether we slug it out and maybe switch out of City States when WW gets too high, OR do we take Straatus and Dormir, then sign a peace treaty and finish Perp when we have copper. I'm inclined to sign the peace treaty and finish him when we get copper. It would be better for our economy. __________________ Lost History of the Grigori, Rebirth of the Vampire Race, Rhoanna's Rise, The Demon and the Dove

Jun 04, 2008, 01:43 AM	#222
stuge Emperor Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The gale-swept forests of Finland Posts: 1,840	Straatus+Domir->peace sounds good. __________________ He's dreaming with his eyes open, and those that dream with their eyes open are dangerous, for they do not know when their dreams come to an end.

Jun 04, 2008, 01:52 AM	#223
Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 10,569	What stuge said. __________________ Civ III Hall of Fame Civ IV Hall of Fame Civ V Hall of Fame

Jun 04, 2008, 02:35 AM	#224
TheJopa Šumar Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Croatia Posts: 2,008	My vote for the early peace. __________________ Play Fall from Heaven - The greatest mod for Civ4!

Jun 04, 2008, 10:56 AM	#226
TheJopa Šumar Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Croatia Posts: 2,008	As far as I know, we only have 4 fireballs per turn which is still not enough to make copper irrelevant.. Unless we can make more mages as we go, I say early peace. __________________ Play Fall from Heaven - The greatest mod for Civ4!

Jun 04, 2008, 02:45 AM	#225
Immaculate unerring Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,714	The mage's fireballs don't make copper irrelevent? If you can do it with fireballs, i say press it... but if we really need the copper, then stop. Would it be possible to take copper from perpentach early in a protracted war? That would be the best possibility in my opinion. I.

Jun 04, 2008, 12:00 PM	#227
·Imhotep· Legendary Builder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 2,003	Well, without CR promos it is hard to capture cities with high cultural defense even if the defenders are damaged by collateral damage. I'd vote for taking the two cities and come back later too - it will be a mop-up then anyway onxce we have advanced units. __________________ Current: Like a Sir!, Rise of the Pasha [K-Mod] Finished: DMI series: DMI II - The Tale of Snaga (Space Race Victory as Vassal of Roosevelt !) , DMI III - Casanova (1832 AD Diplo Win) , DMI IV - the Grand Line (1635 AD Conquest Win on Emperor) , DMI V - Fata Morgana (2024 AD Conquest Win Emperor True AW) , DMI VI - The Mearas (~1900 AD Diplo Win @Monarch), DMI VII - Celebrity Deathmatch , DMI VIII - The War of Wrath , DMI IX - The Vampire Lord and the Tower of Mastery (FfH2) , DMI X - A noble way to Deity , DMI XI - Hyborem's Whisper (FfH2) , DMI XII - Imhotep's Legacy , DMI XIII - The CTON, DMI XIV - The Code of Junil (FfH), DMI XV - Gorgeous Cathy (BULL Mod) (currently on hold) "Choice. The problem is choice." (Neo)

Jun 05, 2008, 12:56 AM	#228
Immaculate unerring Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,714	Are we (did we) take diplomatic penalties for declaring war on Perp? if we did, then it might be worth a protracted defensive war for awhile- if not- then declare peace then come back for him later. I.

Jun 06, 2008, 07:28 AM	#229
Immaculate unerring Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,714	I'm at a conference until the 14th and won't be able to view the thread (probably, maybe i will- not sure) or play until then. Please skip me if my turn comes up before i get back. Thanks, i.

Jun 06, 2008, 12:34 PM	#230
·Imhotep· Legendary Builder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 2,003	Well, EverNoob should finish his turns anyway... __________________ Current: Like a Sir!, Rise of the Pasha [K-Mod] Finished: DMI series: DMI II - The Tale of Snaga (Space Race Victory as Vassal of Roosevelt !) , DMI III - Casanova (1832 AD Diplo Win) , DMI IV - the Grand Line (1635 AD Conquest Win on Emperor) , DMI V - Fata Morgana (2024 AD Conquest Win Emperor True AW) , DMI VI - The Mearas (~1900 AD Diplo Win @Monarch), DMI VII - Celebrity Deathmatch , DMI VIII - The War of Wrath , DMI IX - The Vampire Lord and the Tower of Mastery (FfH2) , DMI X - A noble way to Deity , DMI XI - Hyborem's Whisper (FfH2) , DMI XII - Imhotep's Legacy , DMI XIII - The CTON, DMI XIV - The Code of Junil (FfH), DMI XV - Gorgeous Cathy (BULL Mod) (currently on hold) "Choice. The problem is choice." (Neo)

Jun 08, 2008, 12:54 PM	#231
Rex rgis of Ter Me I'm a Creator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Erebus Posts: 1,331 Images: 1	I'm in hospital so I won't be able to get the game for about a week.

Jun 08, 2008, 04:52 PM	#232
Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 10,569	Evernoob, you finishing your turns? __________________ Civ III Hall of Fame Civ IV Hall of Fame Civ V Hall of Fame

Jun 10, 2008, 12:05 PM	#233
TheJopa Šumar Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Croatia Posts: 2,008	What to do now? __________________ Play Fall from Heaven - The greatest mod for Civ4!

Jun 10, 2008, 12:07 PM	#234
·Imhotep· Legendary Builder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 2,003	Well, Ozzy or Immaculate should play from TheJopa's save... __________________ Current: Like a Sir!, Rise of the Pasha [K-Mod] Finished: DMI series: DMI II - The Tale of Snaga (Space Race Victory as Vassal of Roosevelt !) , DMI III - Casanova (1832 AD Diplo Win) , DMI IV - the Grand Line (1635 AD Conquest Win on Emperor) , DMI V - Fata Morgana (2024 AD Conquest Win Emperor True AW) , DMI VI - The Mearas (~1900 AD Diplo Win @Monarch), DMI VII - Celebrity Deathmatch , DMI VIII - The War of Wrath , DMI IX - The Vampire Lord and the Tower of Mastery (FfH2) , DMI X - A noble way to Deity , DMI XI - Hyborem's Whisper (FfH2) , DMI XII - Imhotep's Legacy , DMI XIII - The CTON, DMI XIV - The Code of Junil (FfH), DMI XV - Gorgeous Cathy (BULL Mod) (currently on hold) "Choice. The problem is choice." (Neo)

Jun 10, 2008, 04:16 PM	#235
Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 10,569	I can take this Friday. If Immac can get to it earlier then go for it. __________________ Civ III Hall of Fame Civ IV Hall of Fame Civ V Hall of Fame

Jun 11, 2008, 08:35 PM	#237
Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 10,569	OK, anyone remember what 0.31 patch we're on. I've yet to install 0.31 on the new laptop so need to be able to patch to the right level. __________________ Civ III Hall of Fame Civ IV Hall of Fame Civ V Hall of Fame

Jun 12, 2008, 08:01 AM	#238
·Imhotep· Legendary Builder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 2,003	It's 0.31e. __________________ Current: Like a Sir!, Rise of the Pasha [K-Mod] Finished: DMI series: DMI II - The Tale of Snaga (Space Race Victory as Vassal of Roosevelt !) , DMI III - Casanova (1832 AD Diplo Win) , DMI IV - the Grand Line (1635 AD Conquest Win on Emperor) , DMI V - Fata Morgana (2024 AD Conquest Win Emperor True AW) , DMI VI - The Mearas (~1900 AD Diplo Win @Monarch), DMI VII - Celebrity Deathmatch , DMI VIII - The War of Wrath , DMI IX - The Vampire Lord and the Tower of Mastery (FfH2) , DMI X - A noble way to Deity , DMI XI - Hyborem's Whisper (FfH2) , DMI XII - Imhotep's Legacy , DMI XIII - The CTON, DMI XIV - The Code of Junil (FfH), DMI XV - Gorgeous Cathy (BULL Mod) (currently on hold) "Choice. The problem is choice." (Neo)

Jun 12, 2008, 03:23 PM	#239
Rex rgis of Ter Me I'm a Creator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Erebus Posts: 1,331 Images: 1	I'm out early and I have plenty of free time so I'll be back in the roster.

Jun 12, 2008, 03:35 PM	#240
TheJopa Šumar Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Croatia Posts: 2,008	I'm glad everything is fine! __________________ Play Fall from Heaven - The greatest mod for Civ4!

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