[BtS] Rise of Mankind 2 - Page 62

SpaceCowboy_MA · Feb 06, 2009, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zappara

If you use single player -> play now! mode you can't see snail or blitz speed because that particular page is hardcoded and can't be changed. Those new speeds can be easily chosen from Single Player -> Custom Game page though.

It was Play Now. Thanks for that info.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zappara

What game settings were you using when that religion bug appeared?

RoM_PerfectWorld; Huge Map; Start in Old World; Break Pangaeas; Noble Difficulty; Normal Speed; Roosevelt/Americans

So is it a bug or as intended to be? I had founded Zoroastrianism already and according to Boris:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris Badinov

You are limited to one religion founding, I personally don't like it because I always go for masonry before the others. But Amon Ra looks to be the new major religion in my worlds, since all the others come later.

zappara · Feb 06, 2009, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpaceCowboy_MA

So is it a bug or as intended to be? I had founded Zoroastrianism already and according to Boris:

You can found only 1 religion (default setting for Limited Religion component). It's set in GameDefinesAlt.xml in Rise of Mankind\Assets\XML folder.

Hubert123 · Feb 06, 2009, 02:54 PM

Thanks for the reply. I've reinstalled Civ4 from scratch and it appears to be more stable now. Not sure if it was vanilla Civ not being patched to 1.74 or a conflict with BlueMarble, but it's behaving now

LordJecks · Feb 06, 2009, 08:26 PM

First off congrats on making a mod that dwarfs the original game in every aspect. Along with FfH II this is my favorite mod by far. I've noticed a glitch while playing RoR v2.52 with multipack installed. I research Monotheism with the "choose religion" option, and the screen came up asking for me to pick a religion to found. I choose Buddhism and founded both it and Judaism.

On another note have you though about implementing the promotional setup that Fall From Heaven II uses? By this I mean showing only the highest of the promotions in that promotion tree (i.e. Showing only Shock III, instead of all three of them in the unit's stat bar)

ichbinsehselber · Feb 07, 2009, 04:37 AM

Thanks to Zappara for this great Mod! I like it very much for its depth. There must be a big deal of work in it!

I have got a problem with the way the game difficulty evolves: In my past ROM games I always had to fight hard to survive and prosper in the early ancient age. I like this, after all I set the difficulty level accordingly. The game is great.

But as soon as you have axe men you are more or less safe. The difficulty of the game declines very sharply. In my last game (2.4 immortal difficulty, huge marathon aggressive ai), I reached the industrial age very early (as I did not have any war) the AI was still in the medieval, even though the largest is perhaps 5 times as large as my country. Apparently has to deal with revolutions and war constantly.

Is there any way to set the game settings to keep the difficulty level high in the later game?

Has anybody an idea?

Hubert123 · Feb 07, 2009, 09:05 AM

Yeah I'm experiencing the same. Getting to classical times is the hardest part - after that it's easy street. The AI doesn't seem to handle it's civic's well so it's constantly suffering unhappiness and having to cope with rebellions. The game I'm running at the moment started with 5 AI civs, now it's grown to 12

ichbinsehselber · Feb 07, 2009, 09:49 AM

Perhaps it should be possible to start with a certain difficulty level and raise it later???

JaeChunDaeSung · Feb 07, 2009, 05:49 PM

To Zappara, kudos for an excellent effort with this mod. I too wish to turn off the Limited Religions aspect, but could not find the GameDefinesAlt in the Assets XML folder. Running the latest version on BTS 3.17

DavidB1111 · Feb 07, 2009, 06:48 PM

Um, I turned it off in the Custom Games section? Shouldn't it be there for you guys too? Besides, most mods like this wouldn't work at all with Play now or something....

SpaceCowboy_MA · Feb 08, 2009, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaeChunDaeSung

To Zappara, kudos for an excellent effort with this mod. I too wish to turn off the Limited Religions aspect, but could not find the GameDefinesAlt in the Assets XML folder. Running the latest version on BTS 3.17

GlobalDefinesAlt.xml in

C:\Program Files (x86)\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rise of Mankind\Assets\XML

Note: Vista 64-bit path-- you might not have the (x86)

Code:

	<Define>
		<!-- Each civ get's one unique founding faith upon reaching required technology -->
		<DefineName>OC_LIMITED_RELIGIONS</DefineName>
		<iDefineIntVal>1</iDefineIntVal>
	</Define>

Change 1 to 0 to turn it off. But much easier and less permanent to simply run a custom game as David suggests...

DavidB1111 · Feb 08, 2009, 08:32 AM

Thank you, I didn't think I was hallucinating that.

Now, if only other mods did the same thing.
Also, why anyone wouldn't use Custom Game, I don't know. Like I said, Play Now shouldn't really work. Especially since all the map scripts have been renamed.

Teemu Ruskeepää · Feb 08, 2009, 08:59 AM

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DavidB1111 · Feb 08, 2009, 01:38 PM

Your video card tels me you need a better one. Also, unless you buy from Direct2Drive, not playing with the CD is not allowed to be discussed here. I'm certain. And my computer's video card is much better. I can play with the mega pack up to Industrual before issues.

Maybe you won't be banned...I don't know if this forum has a warning system or something...

Also, that Duo looks weird. Are you certain you have a 1.6 and a 1.5 Ghz? Seems a bit weird. I don't know why.

Also, while I haven't played this game much recently, certain maps just don't work at huge or greater sizes.

Oh, that reminds me, I'm going to go back to just the basic, and not the mega-pack. I don't know why it causes my new computer so much problems. Maybe you might have to dial down the civs, or no one will be able to play it soon.

Teemu Ruskeepää · Feb 09, 2009, 12:26 AM

removed

DavidB1111 · Feb 09, 2009, 01:11 PM

Perhaps we got off on the wrong foot. All I know is that asking for help with a no-cd/no-dvd crack is usually a bad idea on any forum based on the game your asking it for.

As for those two posts, until your post, which seems arrogant..., I never seen those two posts before.

All I know is what I said earlier, you shouldn't ask for help with a No-Cd crack ever. Here anyway. I don't know the policy, don't know if there's a warning button, etc.

All I know, is that Personal attacks, claiming I have narcistic personality disorder is a major personal attack, are rude, and usually not permitted on most forums.

You're doing it wrong! let's move this discussion to another thread, because I can easily go on for another 62 pages.

Maybe it's a language issue. But really, What the heck are you doing? Seriously, I comment only about that which you posted here in this thread, and then you come back about something in another thread I've never even seen before. And then claim I have the only disorder than completely and utterly contradicts every part of my Asperger's Syndrome.

Q.E.D. And obvious troll is Obvious...
You don't make friends by accusing them.

Let's just ignore what happened here. Otherwise Zappra or an admin might travel to my house and beat me up.

Turner · Feb 09, 2009, 02:10 PM

Moderator Action: Teemu Ruskeepää - warned for trolling.

Not to mention asking for help with a no-cd crack -- we have zero tolerance for piracy here.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/faq.php?faq=updated_rules_2011

Khadras · Feb 09, 2009, 11:14 PM

Hi! I modified the upgradable buildings lines from CvEventManager.py and CvGameUtils.py and when i start the game it had no interface. Before this modification all works fine. I add just 2 lines on each file like fallow:
In CvEventManager.py i add:
# High Walls building upgrade line, when High Walls are built, normal High Walls will be disabled
if iBuildingType == CvUtil.findInfoTypeNum(gc.getBuildingInfo, gc.getNumBuildingInfos(), "BUILDING_CASTLE"):
pCity.setNumRealBuilding(CvUtil.findInfoTypeNum(gc .getBuildingInfo, gc.getNumBuildingInfos(), "BUILDING_HIGH_WALLS"), False)
pCity.

# High Walls building upgrade line, when High Walls are built, normal High Walls will be disabled
if iBuildingType == CvUtil.findInfoTypeNum(gc.getBuildingInfo, gc.getNumBuildingInfos(), "BUILDING_SPANISH_CITADEL"):
pCity.setNumRealBuilding(CvUtil.findInfoTypeNum(gc .getBuildingInfo, gc.getNumBuildingInfos(), "BUILDING_HIGH_WALLS"), False)
pCity.

In CvGameUtils.py i add:

# player can't build High Walls if they have Castle
if eBuilding == gc.getInfoTypeForString("BUILDING_HIGH_WALLS"):
if pCity.getNumRealBuilding(gc.getInfoTypeForString(" BUILDING_CASTLE")):
return True

# player can't build High Walls if they have Spanish Castle
if eBuilding == gc.getInfoTypeForString("BUILDING_HIGH_WALLS"):
if pCity.getNumRealBuilding(gc.getInfoTypeForString(" BUILDING_SPANISH_CITADEL")):
return True

Before i download the mod again, i installed the mod and some icons stiil not show.

Look at my screen shot:

Alphacodex · Feb 10, 2009, 02:03 AM

Hi,

just a short question:

Did I miss something, is there no possibility to do a paradrop from a ship? I mean, it should be possible from a carrier at least...

Greetings
Codex

DavidB1111 · Feb 10, 2009, 09:49 AM

Khadras, I don't recognize the font style there. The top one, the one that says "Our ships have discovered the world is round." That style is different then the one this mod and even BTS itself has. Maybe that's the reason you have problems.

I'm just reaching here. I have no idea why anyone gets a lack of interface. Maybe it's vista's fault. Especially if it changes your font style to that. Which is very jarring,

Khadras2007 · Feb 10, 2009, 11:18 AM

[QUOTE=DavidB1111;7755802]Khadras, I don't recognize the font style there. The top one, the one that says "Our ships have discovered the world is round." That style is different then the one this mod and even BTS itself has. Maybe that's the reason you have problems.

I'm just reaching here. I have no idea why anyone gets a lack of interface. Maybe it's vista's fault. Especially if it changes your font style to that. Which is very jarring,[/QUOTE

I have windows xp sp2. I made more modification to this mod from the same computer and works perfectly. Just two small changes does this?

Feb 07, 2009, 04:37 AM	#1225
ichbinsehselber Warlord Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 192	Difficulty of the game Thanks to Zappara for this great Mod! I like it very much for its depth. There must be a big deal of work in it! I have got a problem with the way the game difficulty evolves: In my past ROM games I always had to fight hard to survive and prosper in the early ancient age. I like this, after all I set the difficulty level accordingly. The game is great. But as soon as you have axe men you are more or less safe. The difficulty of the game declines very sharply. In my last game (2.4 immortal difficulty, huge marathon aggressive ai), I reached the industrial age very early (as I did not have any war) the AI was still in the medieval, even though the largest is perhaps 5 times as large as my country. Apparently has to deal with revolutions and war constantly. Is there any way to set the game settings to keep the difficulty level high in the later game? Has anybody an idea?

Feb 07, 2009, 06:48 PM	#1229
DavidB1111 Not-so-smart Man Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 589	Um, I turned it off in the Custom Games section? Shouldn't it be there for you guys too? Besides, most mods like this wouldn't work at all with Play now or something.... __________________ Caution, my posting may be confusing at time. Don't worry, I don't mind if you ask me to repeat myself. I have Asperger's Syndrome. This is possibly the main reason.

Feb 08, 2009, 08:32 AM	#1231
DavidB1111 Not-so-smart Man Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 589	Thank you, I didn't think I was hallucinating that. Now, if only other mods did the same thing. Also, why anyone wouldn't use Custom Game, I don't know. Like I said, Play Now shouldn't really work. Especially since all the map scripts have been renamed. __________________ Caution, my posting may be confusing at time. Don't worry, I don't mind if you ask me to repeat myself. I have Asperger's Syndrome. This is possibly the main reason.

Feb 08, 2009, 08:59 AM	#1232
Teemu Ruskeepää Chieftain Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Turku Posts: 50	removed Last edited by Teemu Ruskeepää; Jan 03, 2010 at 03:58 AM.

Feb 08, 2009, 01:38 PM	#1233
DavidB1111 Not-so-smart Man Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 589	Your video card tels me you need a better one. Also, unless you buy from Direct2Drive, not playing with the CD is not allowed to be discussed here. I'm certain. And my computer's video card is much better. I can play with the mega pack up to Industrual before issues. Maybe you won't be banned...I don't know if this forum has a warning system or something... Also, that Duo looks weird. Are you certain you have a 1.6 and a 1.5 Ghz? Seems a bit weird. I don't know why. Also, while I haven't played this game much recently, certain maps just don't work at huge or greater sizes. Oh, that reminds me, I'm going to go back to just the basic, and not the mega-pack. I don't know why it causes my new computer so much problems. Maybe you might have to dial down the civs, or no one will be able to play it soon. __________________ Caution, my posting may be confusing at time. Don't worry, I don't mind if you ask me to repeat myself. I have Asperger's Syndrome. This is possibly the main reason. Last edited by DavidB1111; Feb 08, 2009 at 01:42 PM.

Feb 06, 2009, 02:54 PM	#1223
Hubert123 Chieftain Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5	Thanks for the reply. I've reinstalled Civ4 from scratch and it appears to be more stable now. Not sure if it was vanilla Civ not being patched to 1.74 or a conflict with BlueMarble, but it's behaving now

Feb 06, 2009, 08:26 PM	#1224
LordJecks Chieftain Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5	First off congrats on making a mod that dwarfs the original game in every aspect. Along with FfH II this is my favorite mod by far. I've noticed a glitch while playing RoR v2.52 with multipack installed. I research Monotheism with the "choose religion" option, and the screen came up asking for me to pick a religion to found. I choose Buddhism and founded both it and Judaism. On another note have you though about implementing the promotional setup that Fall From Heaven II uses? By this I mean showing only the highest of the promotions in that promotion tree (i.e. Showing only Shock III, instead of all three of them in the unit's stat bar)

Feb 07, 2009, 09:05 AM	#1226
Hubert123 Chieftain Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5	Yeah I'm experiencing the same. Getting to classical times is the hardest part - after that it's easy street. The AI doesn't seem to handle it's civic's well so it's constantly suffering unhappiness and having to cope with rebellions. The game I'm running at the moment started with 5 AI civs, now it's grown to 12

Feb 07, 2009, 09:49 AM	#1227
ichbinsehselber Warlord Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 192	Perhaps it should be possible to start with a certain difficulty level and raise it later???

Feb 07, 2009, 05:49 PM	#1228
JaeChunDaeSung Warlord Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Korea Posts: 270 Images: 2	To Zappara, kudos for an excellent effort with this mod. I too wish to turn off the Limited Religions aspect, but could not find the GameDefinesAlt in the Assets XML folder. Running the latest version on BTS 3.17

Feb 09, 2009, 12:26 AM	#1234
Teemu Ruskeepää Chieftain Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Turku Posts: 50	removed Last edited by Teemu Ruskeepää; Jan 03, 2010 at 03:58 AM.

Feb 09, 2009, 01:11 PM	#1235
DavidB1111 Not-so-smart Man Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 589	Perhaps we got off on the wrong foot. All I know is that asking for help with a no-cd/no-dvd crack is usually a bad idea on any forum based on the game your asking it for. As for those two posts, until your post, which seems arrogant..., I never seen those two posts before. All I know is what I said earlier, you shouldn't ask for help with a No-Cd crack ever. Here anyway. I don't know the policy, don't know if there's a warning button, etc. All I know, is that Personal attacks, claiming I have narcistic personality disorder is a major personal attack, are rude, and usually not permitted on most forums. You're doing it wrong! let's move this discussion to another thread, because I can easily go on for another 62 pages. Maybe it's a language issue. But really, What the heck are you doing? Seriously, I comment only about that which you posted here in this thread, and then you come back about something in another thread I've never even seen before. And then claim I have the only disorder than completely and utterly contradicts every part of my Asperger's Syndrome. Q.E.D. And obvious troll is Obvious... You don't make friends by accusing them. Let's just ignore what happened here. Otherwise Zappra or an admin might travel to my house and beat me up. __________________ Caution, my posting may be confusing at time. Don't worry, I don't mind if you ask me to repeat myself. I have Asperger's Syndrome. This is possibly the main reason. Last edited by DavidB1111; Feb 09, 2009 at 03:02 PM.

Feb 09, 2009, 02:10 PM	#1236
Turner Deity Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Randomistan Posts: 25,973	Moderator Action: Teemu Ruskeepää - warned for trolling. Not to mention asking for help with a no-cd crack -- we have zero tolerance for piracy here. Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/faq.php?faq=updated_rules_2011 Last edited by Padma; Feb 09, 2009 at 02:17 PM. Reason: added piracy warning

Feb 09, 2009, 11:14 PM	#1237
Khadras Chieftain Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 34	No interface problem Hi! I modified the upgradable buildings lines from CvEventManager.py and CvGameUtils.py and when i start the game it had no interface. Before this modification all works fine. I add just 2 lines on each file like fallow: In CvEventManager.py i add: # High Walls building upgrade line, when High Walls are built, normal High Walls will be disabled if iBuildingType == CvUtil.findInfoTypeNum(gc.getBuildingInfo, gc.getNumBuildingInfos(), "BUILDING_CASTLE"): pCity.setNumRealBuilding(CvUtil.findInfoTypeNum(gc .getBuildingInfo, gc.getNumBuildingInfos(), "BUILDING_HIGH_WALLS"), False) pCity. # High Walls building upgrade line, when High Walls are built, normal High Walls will be disabled if iBuildingType == CvUtil.findInfoTypeNum(gc.getBuildingInfo, gc.getNumBuildingInfos(), "BUILDING_SPANISH_CITADEL"): pCity.setNumRealBuilding(CvUtil.findInfoTypeNum(gc .getBuildingInfo, gc.getNumBuildingInfos(), "BUILDING_HIGH_WALLS"), False) pCity. In CvGameUtils.py i add: # player can't build High Walls if they have Castle if eBuilding == gc.getInfoTypeForString("BUILDING_HIGH_WALLS"): if pCity.getNumRealBuilding(gc.getInfoTypeForString(" BUILDING_CASTLE")): return True # player can't build High Walls if they have Spanish Castle if eBuilding == gc.getInfoTypeForString("BUILDING_HIGH_WALLS"): if pCity.getNumRealBuilding(gc.getInfoTypeForString(" BUILDING_SPANISH_CITADEL")): return True Before i download the mod again, i installed the mod and some icons stiil not show. Look at my screen shot: Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Khadras; Feb 10, 2009 at 12:39 AM.

Feb 10, 2009, 02:03 AM	#1238
Alphacodex Chieftain Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 14	Hi, just a short question: Did I miss something, is there no possibility to do a paradrop from a ship? I mean, it should be possible from a carrier at least... Greetings Codex

Feb 10, 2009, 09:49 AM	#1239
DavidB1111 Not-so-smart Man Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 589	Khadras, I don't recognize the font style there. The top one, the one that says "Our ships have discovered the world is round." That style is different then the one this mod and even BTS itself has. Maybe that's the reason you have problems. I'm just reaching here. I have no idea why anyone gets a lack of interface. Maybe it's vista's fault. Especially if it changes your font style to that. Which is very jarring, __________________ Caution, my posting may be confusing at time. Don't worry, I don't mind if you ask me to repeat myself. I have Asperger's Syndrome. This is possibly the main reason.

Feb 10, 2009, 11:18 AM	#1240
Khadras2007 Chieftain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19	[QUOTE=DavidB1111;7755802]Khadras, I don't recognize the font style there. The top one, the one that says "Our ships have discovered the world is round." That style is different then the one this mod and even BTS itself has. Maybe that's the reason you have problems. I'm just reaching here. I have no idea why anyone gets a lack of interface. Maybe it's vista's fault. Especially if it changes your font style to that. Which is very jarring,[/QUOTE I have windows xp sp2. I made more modification to this mod from the same computer and works perfectly. Just two small changes does this?

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