Poll: What NES should I do?

Neverwonagame3 · Jun 17, 2008, 02:47 PM

The options are the following:

1- A Cultures and Nations OR Cultures NES. Unlike most Culture NESes, it would continue through history, and emphasise play as the culture, not the nation. From a Nation perspective, it would be a normal NES.

2- Rome NES. The players would be military commanders in the Roman Empire, with their own internal power struggles. At first they would have to contend with each other and the Sassanids, but eventually the barbarians arrive...

3- Dynasty NES. The players play dynasties, and try to further their dynasty, not their nation.

4- Institutions NES. The players create city states within the basic model of the Greek polis. Instead of playing whole nations, however, the players play Institutions (e.g- The Monarchy, The Senate, and so on), trying to further their institution's power within the system.

CLARIFICATIONS: Will come as people ask questions, and in response to ones already asked on the New NES Ideas and Development Thread.

SECOND NEW IDEA:
Instead of deciding myself when to do BTs, the players will get to vote on and propose BTs at any time.

Ninja Dude · Jun 17, 2008, 03:34 PM

I'm interested in the cultures one. However, some basic rules and stuff would help me understand it better.

Neverwonagame3 · Jun 17, 2008, 04:08 PM

The Cultures NES would have aspects of North King's and Symphony D's, but would continue for longer. Instead of playing a single nation, the player would play a culture, but have less ability to make national decisions. (e.g- direct diplomacy, what nation to attack, and so on).

To use terms from Symphony D's NES, the player could alter Tenets, Society, and Values. They could also alter things like government, military doctrines, found religions, and so on. They would use DaftNES style spending points as well.

I'm not sure whether to include playing nations as well, but I'm leaning towards it. (I'd use DaftNES style rules). They could also attempt to reform and alter the culture itself, though the culture's player could fight back in various ways.

Lord_Iggy · Jun 17, 2008, 05:46 PM

Dynasties NES!

Ninja Dude · Jun 17, 2008, 06:27 PM

Will the Dynasties NES be played on earth or a non-earth map?

MooseWarrior · Jun 17, 2008, 06:32 PM

I like the sound of a Dynasties NES.

Neverwonagame3 · Jun 17, 2008, 06:36 PM

I was originally planning non-Earth, but I am willing to change that.

Anyway, how many people are interested in combining a Dynasties NES with a Cultures or Institutions NES?

Luckymoose · Jun 17, 2008, 06:37 PM

Ugh my idea my idea my idea.

Neverwonagame3 · Jun 17, 2008, 06:38 PM

As it probably was, I will admit it. IN ALL PROBABILITY, LUCKYMOOSE GETS THE CREDIT FOR THE DYNASTIES IDEA.

Luckymoose, maybe you should do the Dynasties NES and I can remove it from the poll.

LightFang · Jun 17, 2008, 06:57 PM

Dynasties dynasties!!!!! Do a dynasty NES!

Ninja Dude · Jun 17, 2008, 06:59 PM

Yeah, I changed my mind about wanting a culture NES. I now support the Dynasties NES.

Neverwonagame3 · Jun 17, 2008, 07:09 PM

O.K- If Luckymoose doesn't do a Dynasty NES (I think it was his idea), then I will unless the votes turn around a bit.

<nuke> · Jun 17, 2008, 07:13 PM

Dynasty was also my idea

Go ahead though, I voted for Dynasty

Neverwonagame3 · Jun 17, 2008, 07:17 PM

O.K, I'll start turning this into a rules discussion thread.

1- I propose the setting be a single region, either a custom (fictional) region, an ATL region, or a region from actual history.

2- I propose a democratic BT system. We can have a BT of whatever time length if the majority of players vote for it.

3- Should I combine this with the Institutions NES idea?

4- Should I try and make more ideas for improving the standard rules, or leave it where it's at?

North King · Jun 17, 2008, 07:17 PM

What setting were you thinking of doing for the Dynasties NES? The ancient era does work, but I do like the idea of a baroque period one...

EDIT:

As to 2 - nah, make it on your own discretion.

3 - Make it more of a court politics / intrigue NES than "institutions". Heck, you could make it centered around a few countries in a feudal area...

4 - Always improve.

Neverwonagame3 · Jun 17, 2008, 07:24 PM

1- What period is baroque, roughly? If I go with that, I'll make it an ATL- too hard to look up actual historical stats.

2- I disagree. If BTs happen at the player's discretion, they are more likely to like the results.

3- Court politics works. Perhaps the NES could focus on dynasties of non-rulers as well? A player might be an explorer, general, or something.

4- New ideas coming.

Fuschia · Jun 17, 2008, 07:24 PM

I'm trying to cut down on the amount of time I spend on NESing, but I would join the polis one if properly implemented.

North King · Jun 17, 2008, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neverwonagame3

1- What period is baroque, roughly? If I go with that, I'll make it an ATL- too hard to look up actual historical stats.

1600ish. Not a common time to have NESes around, and there might be good reason for that. On the other hand, there might not be.

Quote:

2- I disagree. If BTs happen at the player's discretion, they are more likely to like the results.

*shrugs* It's your call.

Quote:

3- Court politics works. Perhaps the NES could focus on dynasties of non-rulers as well? A player might be an explorer, general, or something.

I was thinking in general advancing your family, so yeah, that works as well.

Neverwonagame3 · Jun 17, 2008, 07:29 PM

Maybe I'll do a second poll, to see what time period people think best.

Abaddon · Jun 21, 2008, 05:17 AM

I don't really understand how dynasty NES will work.. will it not essentially be a nrmal NES except you write in your orders for your leader to have lots of sex?

What will contol how successful a dynasty is?

View Poll Results: What sort of NES should I do?
You shouldn't do a NES	6	27.27%
Some sort of combination	1	4.55%
Don't really care	2	9.09%
Dynasties NES	8	36.36%
Institutions NES	2	9.09%
Cultures NES	1	4.55%
Rome NES	2	9.09%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

Jun 17, 2008, 02:47 PM	#1
Neverwonagame3 Self-Styled Intellectual Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,933	Poll: What NES should I do? The options are the following: 1- A Cultures and Nations OR Cultures NES. Unlike most Culture NESes, it would continue through history, and emphasise play as the culture, not the nation. From a Nation perspective, it would be a normal NES. 2- Rome NES. The players would be military commanders in the Roman Empire, with their own internal power struggles. At first they would have to contend with each other and the Sassanids, but eventually the barbarians arrive... 3- Dynasty NES. The players play dynasties, and try to further their dynasty, not their nation. 4- Institutions NES. The players create city states within the basic model of the Greek polis. Instead of playing whole nations, however, the players play Institutions (e.g- The Monarchy, The Senate, and so on), trying to further their institution's power within the system. CLARIFICATIONS: Will come as people ask questions, and in response to ones already asked on the New NES Ideas and Development Thread. SECOND NEW IDEA: Instead of deciding myself when to do BTs, the players will get to vote on and propose BTs at any time. Last edited by Neverwonagame3; Jun 17, 2008 at 02:51 PM.

Jun 17, 2008, 03:34 PM	#2
Ninja Dude Bear of Hizen Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,410	I'm interested in the cultures one. However, some basic rules and stuff would help me understand it better. __________________ Violence isn't the answer. Violence is the question; the answer is yes.

Jun 17, 2008, 05:46 PM	#4
Lord_Iggy Penguin in a Human Suit Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Yukon Posts: 23,337	Dynasties NES! __________________ NESLife VI Life as You've Never Seen it Before!

Jun 17, 2008, 06:27 PM	#5
Ninja Dude Bear of Hizen Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,410	Will the Dynasties NES be played on earth or a non-earth map? __________________ Violence isn't the answer. Violence is the question; the answer is yes.

Jun 17, 2008, 04:08 PM	#3
Neverwonagame3 Self-Styled Intellectual Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,933	The Cultures NES would have aspects of North King's and Symphony D's, but would continue for longer. Instead of playing a single nation, the player would play a culture, but have less ability to make national decisions. (e.g- direct diplomacy, what nation to attack, and so on). To use terms from Symphony D's NES, the player could alter Tenets, Society, and Values. They could also alter things like government, military doctrines, found religions, and so on. They would use DaftNES style spending points as well. I'm not sure whether to include playing nations as well, but I'm leaning towards it. (I'd use DaftNES style rules). They could also attempt to reform and alter the culture itself, though the culture's player could fight back in various ways.

Jun 17, 2008, 06:32 PM	#6
MooseWarrior Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Buffalo, New York Posts: 309	I like the sound of a Dynasties NES.

Jun 17, 2008, 06:36 PM	#7
Neverwonagame3 Self-Styled Intellectual Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,933	I was originally planning non-Earth, but I am willing to change that. Anyway, how many people are interested in combining a Dynasties NES with a Cultures or Institutions NES?

Jun 17, 2008, 06:37 PM	#8
Luckymoose Milk of Mother's Kindness Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 16,572	Ugh my idea my idea my idea. __________________ Saw a cape of red and gold Stifle up the being With the perfect armor With a perfect dream Cyve in N3S III - End of Empires + Brazil in Capto Iugulum

Jun 17, 2008, 06:38 PM	#9
Neverwonagame3 Self-Styled Intellectual Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,933	As it probably was, I will admit it. IN ALL PROBABILITY, LUCKYMOOSE GETS THE CREDIT FOR THE DYNASTIES IDEA. Luckymoose, maybe you should do the Dynasties NES and I can remove it from the poll.

Jun 17, 2008, 06:57 PM	#10
LightFang "I'm the hero!" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Dynasties dynasties!!!!! Do a dynasty NES! __________________ (-3.75, -5.23) "I'm Lighty, and I'm a proud member of #fiftychat and #nes!" I'm running a simple mafia game! Come play!

Jun 17, 2008, 06:59 PM	#11
Ninja Dude Bear of Hizen Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,410	Yeah, I changed my mind about wanting a culture NES. I now support the Dynasties NES. __________________ Violence isn't the answer. Violence is the question; the answer is yes.

Jun 17, 2008, 07:09 PM	#12
Neverwonagame3 Self-Styled Intellectual Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,933	O.K- If Luckymoose doesn't do a Dynasty NES (I think it was his idea), then I will unless the votes turn around a bit.

Jun 17, 2008, 07:13 PM	#13
<nuke> The Elite Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Trost Posts: 7,127	Dynasty was also my idea Go ahead though, I voted for Dynasty

Jun 17, 2008, 07:17 PM	#14
Neverwonagame3 Self-Styled Intellectual Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,933	O.K, I'll start turning this into a rules discussion thread. 1- I propose the setting be a single region, either a custom (fictional) region, an ATL region, or a region from actual history. 2- I propose a democratic BT system. We can have a BT of whatever time length if the majority of players vote for it. 3- Should I combine this with the Institutions NES idea? 4- Should I try and make more ideas for improving the standard rules, or leave it where it's at?

Jun 17, 2008, 07:17 PM	#15
North King Royal Cartographer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Composing. Posts: 17,172	What setting were you thinking of doing for the Dynasties NES? The ancient era does work, but I do like the idea of a baroque period one... EDIT: As to 2 - nah, make it on your own discretion. 3 - Make it more of a court politics / intrigue NES than "institutions". Heck, you could make it centered around a few countries in a feudal area... 4 - Always improve. __________________ Come NES! End of Empires - *And with the spring thaw, it began.* Updates: One Two Three Four Five Six Seven Eight Nine Ten (pt. 2) Eleven (pt. 2) Twelve Thirteen Fourteen Fifteen Sixteen Seventeen Eighteen Nineteen Twenty Twenty-one Twenty-two The EoE wiki.

Jun 17, 2008, 07:24 PM	#16
Neverwonagame3 Self-Styled Intellectual Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,933	1- What period is baroque, roughly? If I go with that, I'll make it an ATL- too hard to look up actual historical stats. 2- I disagree. If BTs happen at the player's discretion, they are more likely to like the results. 3- Court politics works. Perhaps the NES could focus on dynasties of non-rulers as well? A player might be an explorer, general, or something. 4- New ideas coming.

Jun 17, 2008, 07:24 PM	#17
Fuschia A Little Odd Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Less than a lightyear away Posts: 1,259	I'm trying to cut down on the amount of time I spend on NESing, but I would join the polis one if properly implemented. __________________ Economic Left/Right: 3.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05 He who laughs often laughs best. Trust me.

Jun 17, 2008, 07:29 PM	#19
Neverwonagame3 Self-Styled Intellectual Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,933	Maybe I'll do a second poll, to see what time period people think best.

Jun 21, 2008, 05:17 AM	#20
Abaddon Deity Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NES/FG/SF Activity:Arguing the toss Posts: 30,712 Images: 69	I don't really understand how dynasty NES will work.. will it not essentially be a nrmal NES except you write in your orders for your leader to have lots of sex? What will contol how successful a dynasty is?

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