A Very Odd Culture Flip

cgannon64 · Jul 24, 2002, 03:59 PM

Here is the situation: I am the Greeks, on a continent with me at the South end, the Romans and the Bablyonians in the middle, and the Egyptians at the northern end.

In the Industrial ages I started a war with Egypt, for land-grab and for resources. I took a small city of theirs on the most northern tip of the continent (Note: my nearest city is about 50-70 tiles away, and through Roman territory). After struggling valiantly, the city was taken back. I really didn't care to much, made a peace treaty, and played for a peaceful win.

Near the end of the game, that city flipped to me. I hadn't owned it for about 100-150 years. The city was about 125 tiles from my capital and about 20 tiles from the Egyptian capital. Any thoughts on how this could happen? I found it quite odd.

Dynamic Cow · Jul 24, 2002, 04:36 PM

did you build any temples or anything else that produces culture in that city?

Yzman · Jul 24, 2002, 04:39 PM

If it had some of your citizens in it and you had a higher culture than Egypt it could very well flip to your side.

Zouave · Jul 24, 2002, 05:43 PM

MOST Flipping cities are "very odd". Why should this be different?

This example was relatively sensible compared to some of the whacked out Flips I've seen.

Zachriel · Jul 24, 2002, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yzman
If it had some of your citizens in it and you had a higher culture than Egypt it could very well flip to your side.

That is certainly correct. As a good leader, cgannon64 treated his citizens well, and at least a few them must have converted to Greek ways. After that, it is a matter of "luck."

Lt. 'Killer' M. · Jul 25, 2002, 04:01 AM

another example that show how huge the random influence is..... too big for my liking1

cgannon64 · Jul 25, 2002, 06:08 PM

I'm not sure, but I think the city didn't grow while I owned it, and all I built was an airport.

Zachriel · Jul 25, 2002, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cgannon64
I'm not sure, but I think the city didn't grow while I owned it, and all I built was an airport.

Must have been your charisma then, if not your benevolence.

Without at least one of your nationals (or overlap), I didn't think a city was supposed to flip. The only way to get nationals is with culture (or workers). I thought. Or maybe they convert slowly even without cultural improvements. . . . Hmmm.

Zachriel · Jul 25, 2002, 07:04 PM

That's an idea! If you have a distant, ethnic city about to be overrun, join the workers to the city so you will have friendlies in place. One day they may raise your flag and declare a revolution.

Jul 24, 2002, 03:59 PM	#1
cgannon64 BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hipster-Authorland, Brooklyn (Hell) Posts: 19,213	A Very Odd Culture Flip Here is the situation: I am the Greeks, on a continent with me at the South end, the Romans and the Bablyonians in the middle, and the Egyptians at the northern end. In the Industrial ages I started a war with Egypt, for land-grab and for resources. I took a small city of theirs on the most northern tip of the continent (Note: my nearest city is about 50-70 tiles away, and through Roman territory). After struggling valiantly, the city was taken back. I really didn't care to much, made a peace treaty, and played for a peaceful win. Near the end of the game, that city flipped to me. I hadn't owned it for about 100-150 years. The city was about 125 tiles from my capital and about 20 tiles from the Egyptian capital. Any thoughts on how this could happen? I found it quite odd. __________________ "Where can we hide in fair weather, we orphans of the storm?"

Jul 24, 2002, 04:36 PM	#2
Dynamic Cow Moo Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 584	did you build any temples or anything else that produces culture in that city? __________________ Moo, I say, Moo! It's the perfect word. What more can I say?

Jul 25, 2002, 06:08 PM	#7
cgannon64 BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hipster-Authorland, Brooklyn (Hell) Posts: 19,213	I'm not sure, but I think the city didn't grow while I owned it, and all I built was an airport. __________________ "Where can we hide in fair weather, we orphans of the storm?"

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Yzman Emperor Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 1,763	If it had some of your citizens in it and you had a higher culture than Egypt it could very well flip to your side.

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Lt. 'Killer' M. Deity Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,475	another example that show how huge the random influence is..... too big for my liking1

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Zachriel Kaiser Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Jovian System Posts: 2,294	That's an idea! If you have a distant, ethnic city about to be overrun, join the workers to the city so you will have friendlies in place. One day they may raise your flag and declare a revolution.

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