World Map: Where do you land?

Pragmatic · Aug 06, 2002, 10:59 PM

What part of the map do you prefer to land upon? Me, I prefer to land in Argentina. There, you can easily get tobacco and sugar, and set up cigar and rum factories. In addition, you're near the Incans, which means good trade. Only downside is you're near the natives in the Amazon, which means you can't expand very easily. I still end up with maybe a half-dozen decent starting spots. (After forcibly converting a village or two.

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gr8ful wes · Aug 07, 2002, 08:02 AM

there seems to be 4 standard starting locations; Cape Cod, the Carribean, Argentina and Brazil. I prefer Cape Cod for long games and Argentina For shorter ones. If I land in the Carribean I often go hunting a rival colony immediately and try to take it by force, after dropping off the settler on some island (usually haiti or cuba)

spycatcher34 · Aug 07, 2002, 08:08 AM

I usally go up north for my first settlemets you can get fast money with furs/coats ehich helps to get your colony on it's feet.

Pragmatic · Aug 07, 2002, 09:33 AM

Is there any advantage to multiple starting locations? For instance, taking over Cape Cod, as well as Argentina? There's not much mutual support during the War of Independence, I'm guessing....

I seem to remember that one of the other powers ends up giving up their colonies to another power during the game. Has anyone ever benefited by this?

gr8ful wes · Aug 07, 2002, 12:27 PM

Pragmatic,
You are refering to the treaty of Utrecht. This seems to happen when 50% of your citizens want independance. This can happen very quickly in a game if you build colonies and immediately put the settler in to produce liberty bells as a statesman.
The biggest benefit is that it eliminates the weakest country from the game. This is great if they are spanish, because that means that there will be more natives for you to either trade with or exploit(I prefer trade)

Becka · Sep 19, 2002, 11:37 AM

I prefer southern South America- good for trading with the Incas and subsequently destroying them.

Also lots of raw materials like tabacco and sugar for making cigars and rum. And cotton for cloth.

LordAzreal · Sep 20, 2002, 04:55 AM

Argentina is my favourite starting location. Close proximity to the Incas. Therefore, it is easier to trade with them as the Dutch or French, or to conquer them as the Spanish. And there is plenty of diversity of natural resources. The perfect place to build up wealth (if you can get around the Tupi)

SunTzu · Sep 20, 2002, 10:06 AM

Well since Becka turned me on, to Argentina that is, it's became my favorite spot! I used to just land to the nearest piece of land and go from there :P

gugalpm · Sep 21, 2002, 03:47 PM

Brazil...
sugar...
rum...
west for silver, lots of it... cool...

gugalpm · Sep 21, 2002, 03:47 PM

Brazil...
sugar...
rum...
west for silver, lots of it... cool...

KingWilly · Sep 25, 2002, 07:05 PM

I like the Argentina / Brazil area. Lots of sugar for Rum, furs for Coats and access to silver near the Incas. The Tupi can be a pain in the a$$, but nothing that a couple of Veteran Dragoons can't fix.

SunTzu · Sep 25, 2002, 07:15 PM

Its not that the Tupi's can be a pain in the A$$ it's that the Tupi's WILL be a pain in the A$$ lol every single time i'm around them they get pissed off, actually in my current game they actually allowed me to establish a mission, and approached with Curiosity.....wierd

gr8ful wes · Sep 26, 2002, 07:48 AM

Missions are very important, and should not be overlooked. especially if you want a long term relationship with the natives. I will often make any criminal a missionary and send them to all points to spread the word.

Becka · Sep 26, 2002, 08:59 AM

Usually I cull the Tupis when they start getting antsy. But I take up so little of the continent, I don't have to destroy them much before I have a barrier between their settlements and mine (in most games I only have three permenent colonies).

covok48 · Jul 24, 2003, 12:45 AM

I usually turn my indentured servants and petty criminals into missionaries since they serve no other purpose. As for oh-so-fragile Indian relations...(shurgs) I don't play for score....;-)

Darkness · Jul 25, 2003, 04:50 AM

Peferably in the US or Argentina. IMHO those 2 are best. The Caribbean is the worst, 'cause you'll have to go island hopping all the time and Brazil ain't much betterm 'cause the only thing to be found there is sugar (and silver in the rainforest)...

Eli the Lich · Aug 04, 2003, 03:43 PM

Did no play colonization for long time .play 2 game now .the first I discovered I land in Central America and have a lot of Privater fight . the second I am playing now after some turn land in argentina to found the spanish placed on a good spot with the 2 Coton Prairi . when the finish to destroy the Indian vilage and send a lone Soldier to another vilage ,north of my single colony I send a Dragon and Artillery to Capture theire Colony.
found there 3 indian convert ,Elder stateman and 2 colonist . some turn afterther veteran soldier was captured when he lose to the indian and build a new colony . I folow some advice and build only 1 permanent colony on the coast ,2 I have conquered from the spanish I build 3 other Permanent colony inside and 3 temporary colony of silver mininig .was very lucky twice found the Fountain of Youth and some tresor .no problem with native .the english sending soldier so at war with them .did no use any Privater . 3 G aleon 2 frigat and 3 merchant shipp and a caravel.
2 colege on the coast . Univercity building and custom house after finishing the Warehouse .Year 1588 hope to revolt before 1650

Legions4Ever · Mar 08, 2004, 02:42 AM

I try to go peaceful in some games and build my colonies on the west coast of NA. The comp never explores there and never builds settlements there when i play and its good for silver, ore, tobacco and cotton, plus excellent for food and i can build colonies all the way inland to the mississippi without the comp finding me til late.

#1 Person · Apr 07, 2004, 06:32 PM

I like landing on islands, It is easy to defend.

Achinz · Apr 07, 2004, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by #1 Person
I like landing on islands, It is easy to defend.

Against AI nations yes, but a real problem when you declare Independence.

Aug 07, 2002, 08:02 AM	#2
gr8ful wes Deity Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: PA, USA Posts: 2,529	there seems to be 4 standard starting locations; Cape Cod, the Carribean, Argentina and Brazil. I prefer Cape Cod for long games and Argentina For shorter ones. If I land in the Carribean I often go hunting a rival colony immediately and try to take it by force, after dropping off the settler on some island (usually haiti or cuba) __________________ Take 'em!!!

Aug 07, 2002, 08:08 AM	#3
spycatcher34 Emperor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: United States of America Posts: 1,494	I usally go up north for my first settlemets you can get fast money with furs/coats ehich helps to get your colony on it's feet. __________________ Agenda: Drone Rights Association\|Gamecatcher\|Civilization Gaming Network "Somewhere between War and Diplomacy is the realm of the Spy."

Aug 07, 2002, 12:27 PM	#5
gr8ful wes Deity Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: PA, USA Posts: 2,529	Pragmatic, You are refering to the treaty of Utrecht. This seems to happen when 50% of your citizens want independance. This can happen very quickly in a game if you build colonies and immediately put the settler in to produce liberty bells as a statesman. The biggest benefit is that it eliminates the weakest country from the game. This is great if they are spanish, because that means that there will be more natives for you to either trade with or exploit(I prefer trade) __________________ Take 'em!!!

Sep 19, 2002, 11:37 AM	#6
Becka M AS IN MARTINI Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,750	I prefer southern South America- good for trading with the Incas and subsequently destroying them. Also lots of raw materials like tabacco and sugar for making cigars and rum. And cotton for cloth. __________________ God along knows whither the soul must go afterwards, and all the spirits that go before God after the day of death await judgement in the Father's bosom. The future is dark and hidden; the Lord alone knows, the Saving Father.

Sep 20, 2002, 10:06 AM	#8
SunTzu Hooah Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Moving throughout the world Posts: 4,841	Well since Becka turned me on, to Argentina that is, it's became my favorite spot! I used to just land to the nearest piece of land and go from there :P __________________ c'est le temps que tu as perdu pour la rose qui fait ta rose si importante.

Aug 06, 2002, 10:59 PM	#1
Pragmatic Prince Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 346	World Map: Where do you land? What part of the map do you prefer to land upon? Me, I prefer to land in Argentina. There, you can easily get tobacco and sugar, and set up cigar and rum factories. In addition, you're near the Incans, which means good trade. Only downside is you're near the natives in the Amazon, which means you can't expand very easily. I still end up with maybe a half-dozen decent starting spots. (After forcibly converting a village or two. )

Aug 07, 2002, 09:33 AM	#4
Pragmatic Prince Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 346	Is there any advantage to multiple starting locations? For instance, taking over Cape Cod, as well as Argentina? There's not much mutual support during the War of Independence, I'm guessing.... I seem to remember that one of the other powers ends up giving up their colonies to another power during the game. Has anyone ever benefited by this?

Sep 20, 2002, 04:55 AM	#7
LordAzreal Warlord Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 169	Argentina is my favourite starting location. Close proximity to the Incas. Therefore, it is easier to trade with them as the Dutch or French, or to conquer them as the Spanish. And there is plenty of diversity of natural resources. The perfect place to build up wealth (if you can get around the Tupi)

Sep 21, 2002, 03:47 PM	#9
gugalpm Veteran Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Porto Alegre, Brazil Posts: 388	Brazil... sugar... rum... west for silver, lots of it... cool... __________________ "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes: and there shall be no more Death. Neither sorrow, nor crying. Neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things have passed away" Revelations ch. xxi v.1 In Iron Maiden's Piece of Mind album, page 2. UP THE IRONS!!!

Sep 25, 2002, 07:05 PM	#11
KingWilly Melbournite Join Date: May 2002 Location: Still in Despotism Posts: 278	I like the Argentina / Brazil area. Lots of sugar for Rum, furs for Coats and access to silver near the Incas. The Tupi can be a pain in the a$$, but nothing that a couple of Veteran Dragoons can't fix. __________________ I think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird and not the bad luck of the early worm.

Sep 25, 2002, 07:15 PM	#12
SunTzu Hooah Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Moving throughout the world Posts: 4,841	Its not that the Tupi's can be a pain in the A$$ it's that the Tupi's WILL be a pain in the A$$ lol every single time i'm around them they get pissed off, actually in my current game they actually allowed me to establish a mission, and approached with Curiosity.....wierd __________________ c'est le temps que tu as perdu pour la rose qui fait ta rose si importante.

Sep 26, 2002, 07:48 AM	#13
gr8ful wes Deity Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: PA, USA Posts: 2,529	Missions are very important, and should not be overlooked. especially if you want a long term relationship with the natives. I will often make any criminal a missionary and send them to all points to spread the word. __________________ Take 'em!!!

Sep 26, 2002, 08:59 AM	#14
Becka M AS IN MARTINI Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,750	Usually I cull the Tupis when they start getting antsy. But I take up so little of the continent, I don't have to destroy them much before I have a barrier between their settlements and mine (in most games I only have three permenent colonies). __________________ God along knows whither the soul must go afterwards, and all the spirits that go before God after the day of death await judgement in the Father's bosom. The future is dark and hidden; the Lord alone knows, the Saving Father.

Jul 24, 2003, 12:45 AM	#15
covok48 I Farted! AHAHAHAHA Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Once A Texan...Always A Texan! Posts: 1,084	I usually turn my indentured servants and petty criminals into missionaries since they serve no other purpose. As for oh-so-fragile Indian relations...(shurgs) I don't play for score....;-) __________________ "Freedom is not the right to do as you please, but the liberty to do as you ought." "All Your Base Are Belong To Us!"

Jul 25, 2003, 04:50 AM	#16
Darkness Shadow creature Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: www.CivDuelZone.com Posts: 5,811	Peferably in the US or Argentina. IMHO those 2 are best. The Caribbean is the worst, 'cause you'll have to go island hopping all the time and Brazil ain't much betterm 'cause the only thing to be found there is sugar (and silver in the rainforest)... __________________ Thus, from the war of nature, from famine and death, the most exalted object which we are capable of conceiving, namely, the production of the higher animals, directly follows. Charles Darwin - The Origin of Species PBEM and Pitboss spoilers at www.civduelzone.com/Darkness' House of Horrors

Aug 04, 2003, 03:43 PM	#17
Eli the Lich Chieftain Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jadam Posts: 94	Argentina Did no play colonization for long time .play 2 game now .the first I discovered I land in Central America and have a lot of Privater fight . the second I am playing now after some turn land in argentina to found the spanish placed on a good spot with the 2 Coton Prairi . when the finish to destroy the Indian vilage and send a lone Soldier to another vilage ,north of my single colony I send a Dragon and Artillery to Capture theire Colony. found there 3 indian convert ,Elder stateman and 2 colonist . some turn afterther veteran soldier was captured when he lose to the indian and build a new colony . I folow some advice and build only 1 permanent colony on the coast ,2 I have conquered from the spanish I build 3 other Permanent colony inside and 3 temporary colony of silver mininig .was very lucky twice found the Fountain of Youth and some tresor .no problem with native .the english sending soldier so at war with them .did no use any Privater . 3 G aleon 2 frigat and 3 merchant shipp and a caravel. 2 colege on the coast . Univercity building and custom house after finishing the Warehouse .Year 1588 hope to revolt before 1650 __________________ The lich air on top dark on my right light on my left NO BOTOM

Mar 08, 2004, 02:42 AM	#18
Legions4Ever Chieftain Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rome Posts: 84	I try to go peaceful in some games and build my colonies on the west coast of NA. The comp never explores there and never builds settlements there when i play and its good for silver, ore, tobacco and cotton, plus excellent for food and i can build colonies all the way inland to the mississippi without the comp finding me til late. __________________ To my way of thinking, there is nothing that cant be cured with a big ol steaming pot of baked beans........except maybe bean fever Jack Handy

Apr 07, 2004, 06:32 PM	#19
#1 Person The Cow Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In a grassy knoll with internet Posts: 1,953	I like landing on islands, It is easy to defend. __________________ Current Projects: Turkish War of Independence: Civilization 2 Scenario NoP NES II: The "New Imperialism"

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