Nuclear Weapons and The U.N.

Spungo · Oct 10, 2008, 12:03 AM

Once the U.N. passes the nuclear weapons ban, is it possible to bring it up for another vote and undo the ban later in the game?? Or is there a way to disable the U.N.???

I ask beacuse I was just about to complete the Manhattan project and Nuke my enemy back to the stone age when that damn U.N. interfered and ruined my plans. It would have been perfect as my enemy had all his units stacked in 2 cities.

I find the game isn't nearly as fun when Nukes are taken out of the game.

Matthew5117 · Oct 10, 2008, 09:16 AM

Destroy the UN and then I THINK the resolutions are no longer applied.

Anyone care to confirm?

Joshua368 · Oct 10, 2008, 09:33 AM

If it's Beyond the Sword just defy the resolution. If that's not an option, hope for the nuke resolution to pop up again and if it fails, nukes can once again become available. I'm not positive but I think razing the U.N. will simply lock any of its effects in place permamently, as you can no longer revote.

Harry Potter52 · Oct 10, 2008, 10:43 PM

Ummm, i generally build the UN after the nukes so that i got no probs, but of course you can't do anything about the AI, so make yourself some friends and get elected secretary.

MrCynical · Oct 11, 2008, 05:30 AM

If the vote comes up again and fails the second time round, the resolution will be removed. In practice you'll probably have to defy this resolution to stop it passing, as the AI loves it.

Destroying the UN will NOT remove this resolution. In fact doing this just locks all resolutions in their current state, making it impossible to remove the nuke ban if it has been passed.

Hardin · Oct 11, 2008, 12:47 PM

This is why I always try to build the UN and do my best to get elected Secretary General. I need my nukes!

Harry Potter52 · Oct 12, 2008, 10:04 PM

Same here
Nukes are the best thing if you need a last minute lead to win a time victory, just launch many nukes at all his cities, press the turn button and njoy

GodBen · Oct 15, 2008, 01:17 PM

Defying has its cost though. In my current game (which is the best game of Civ I have played in a long time) I went to war with my friend Pacal because he was nearing a culture win and his borders were expanding too far into my empire. Unfortunately he was more advanced than me (he had Mech Inf when I only had Cavalry) so I had to whip some ICBMs and used them to successfully destroy his cities. But using nukes caused him to hate me so he wouldn't capitulate, so I had to whip more nukes to win the war.

My main rival was Suryavarman and he had control of the UN, so he just kept on putting the nuke vote up as he knew I had to veto it. This caused massive unhappiness in my empire and production came to a standstill. Once Pacal finally surrendered, Suryavarman stopped putting it to the vote. I'm still trying to recover from the unhappiness in my cities which the vote caused. I've never seen the AI be so devious before.

Harry Potter52 · Oct 17, 2008, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GodBen

...I've never seen the AI be so devious before.

That's life (or is it civ?)

Oct 10, 2008, 12:03 AM	#1
Spungo Chieftain Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2	Nuclear Weapons and The U.N. Once the U.N. passes the nuclear weapons ban, is it possible to bring it up for another vote and undo the ban later in the game?? Or is there a way to disable the U.N.??? I ask beacuse I was just about to complete the Manhattan project and Nuke my enemy back to the stone age when that damn U.N. interfered and ruined my plans. It would have been perfect as my enemy had all his units stacked in 2 cities. I find the game isn't nearly as fun when Nukes are taken out of the game.

Oct 10, 2008, 10:43 PM	#4
Harry Potter52 Prince Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 533	Ummm, i generally build the UN after the nukes so that i got no probs, but of course you can't do anything about the AI, so make yourself some friends and get elected secretary. __________________ "Cogito, Ergo, Sum" I think, therefore I am Check My story: Gandhi's tale And We have managed to finish1000 Clues you play CivIV too much

Oct 11, 2008, 05:30 AM	#5
MrCynical Deity Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Dreaming Spires Posts: 4,478	If the vote comes up again and fails the second time round, the resolution will be removed. In practice you'll probably have to defy this resolution to stop it passing, as the AI loves it. Destroying the UN will NOT remove this resolution. In fact doing this just locks all resolutions in their current state, making it impossible to remove the nuke ban if it has been passed. __________________ "The opposite of the religious fanatic is not the fanatical atheist but the gentle cynic who cares not whether there is a god or not." - Eric Hoffer. Want to learn the true power of corporations in BtS? - Try my article on the power of Sushi!

Oct 12, 2008, 10:04 PM	#7
Harry Potter52 Prince Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 533	Same here Nukes are the best thing if you need a last minute lead to win a time victory, just launch many nukes at all his cities, press the turn button and njoy __________________ "Cogito, Ergo, Sum" I think, therefore I am Check My story: Gandhi's tale And We have managed to finish1000 Clues you play CivIV too much

Oct 15, 2008, 01:17 PM	#8
GodBen Chieftain Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ireland. Did you not work that out? Posts: 97	Defying has its cost though. In my current game (which is the best game of Civ I have played in a long time) I went to war with my friend Pacal because he was nearing a culture win and his borders were expanding too far into my empire. Unfortunately he was more advanced than me (he had Mech Inf when I only had Cavalry) so I had to whip some ICBMs and used them to successfully destroy his cities. But using nukes caused him to hate me so he wouldn't capitulate, so I had to whip more nukes to win the war. My main rival was Suryavarman and he had control of the UN, so he just kept on putting the nuke vote up as he knew I had to veto it. This caused massive unhappiness in my empire and production came to a standstill. Once Pacal finally surrendered, Suryavarman stopped putting it to the vote. I'm still trying to recover from the unhappiness in my cities which the vote caused. I've never seen the AI be so devious before. __________________ "Thrash him to within an inch of his life and burn him the rest of the way."

Oct 10, 2008, 09:16 AM	#2
Matthew5117 Emperor Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: North of America (can you guess?) Posts: 1,458	Destroy the UN and then I THINK the resolutions are no longer applied. Anyone care to confirm?

Oct 10, 2008, 09:33 AM	#3
Joshua368 Warmongering builder Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,072 Images: 4	If it's Beyond the Sword just defy the resolution. If that's not an option, hope for the nuke resolution to pop up again and if it fails, nukes can once again become available. I'm not positive but I think razing the U.N. will simply lock any of its effects in place permamently, as you can no longer revote.

Oct 11, 2008, 12:47 PM	#6
Hardin Chieftain Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 62	This is why I always try to build the UN and do my best to get elected Secretary General. I need my nukes!

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