Civ Rev, Colonization or Civ 3 Complete?

allunderheaven · Dec 10, 2008, 10:43 PM

I want to get a Civilization game for Christmas...again

but, I don't know which one to get.

I have Civ 3 vanilla but I didn't like it much, I found the game rather tedious, I like my games a little faster and shall I say, a little less epic but I have heard that the expansion packs make it far more enjoyable. I don't need huge maps, and I'm okay with micromanagement. Can anyone tell me if the multiplayer for the CivRev DS works? What would you guys recommend?

Thanks!

Lord Parkin · Dec 10, 2008, 11:35 PM

Out of those three games, I've only played one, so I can't really give a balanced opinion. However, I think I'll be a heathen to this forum, and highly recommend that you try out Civ4.

Civ3 Complete is still very good, though. The games are still of about the same length as normal Civ3, but there are more things to do, see, and build. If the game length is really a trouble for you, then perhaps you'd be better off with something like CivRev - I've heard from several friends that it's quite a decent game, and much shorter than both Civ3 and Civ4.

PieceOfMind · Dec 10, 2008, 11:50 PM

I've seen Colonization and from what I've been told it's pretty much a clone of the original game, if you happen to have played that. Civ4 is probably the deepest and most replayable of all the current games. CivRev definitely offers shorter games but at the expense of smaller maps and limited options and depth.

I liked civ4 a lot more than civ3 by the way, but others are different and preferred civ3.

I think in any case Civ4 would be a better option than Colonization. If you must get one of the three you mentioned though I'd probably reccommend CivRev. It plays more like classic civ than colonization does.

Wodan · Dec 11, 2008, 01:10 PM

Civ Rev, easy answer. Colonization and Civ 3 are both too broken. Enjoyable, but given an alternative they're clearly 2nd rate. (Col may be improved when/if the patches mod it to a better state.)

allunderheaven · Dec 11, 2008, 04:11 PM

I forgot to tell everyone, but I already have Civ 4 and BTS, in fact, I think its the best Civ game in the series and one of the best games I ever played. But even if it was so fun, I'm not gonna buy it again, that would be crazy!

PieceOfMind · Dec 11, 2008, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by allunderheaven

I forgot to tell everyone, but I already have Civ 4 and BTS, in fact, I think its the best Civ game in the series and one of the best games I ever played. But even if it was so fun, I'm not gonna buy it again, that would be crazy!

why not?

In that case I think you should wait for Civ V.

CivRev on the DS can't be patched, but I don't know whether that bothers you or not. I've been told the bugs in the DS version are not great, but I'm hesitant to get a civ game which has a permanent state.

allunderheaven · Dec 11, 2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PieceOfMind

why not?

In that case I think you should wait for Civ V.

CivRev on the DS can't be patched, but I don't know whether that bothers you or not. I've been told the bugs in the DS version are not great, but I'm hesitant to get a civ game which has a permanent state.

Thats a good point; however, I haven't heard about any serious bugs on Civ Rev DS...does anyone know of any?

PieceOfMind · Dec 11, 2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by allunderheaven

Thats a good point; however, I haven't heard about any serious bugs on Civ Rev DS...does anyone know of any?

I ventured into the CivRev forum a week ago and someone said there's a bug when you unload a general from a boat. I haven't been following the bug reports closely, but I'd bet there are more bugs, however minor they may be.

Endure · Dec 12, 2008, 12:59 AM

I have civ rev on the DS and I've only ever had a game crash once on me in it. Not really sure what happened, but I went to save my game, and the screen telling me the game was saving, please wait, never went away, even after I left my DS for 10 minutes and came back.

That said, I don't find civ rev on the DS that enjoyable. I played the heck out of it for the first 2 weeks that I had it...got bored and now only ever play it if I'm traveling.

r_rolo1 · Dec 12, 2008, 03:30 AM

If you can stand the graphics, definitely civ III.

allunderheaven · Dec 12, 2008, 10:11 AM

The thing I hate about Civ III is that the corruption is almost game-breaking IMO, and the games usually take longer than my short attention span

...Has the corruption thing been fixed or is it just me who finds it extremely annoying?

RedGeneral · Dec 12, 2008, 10:53 AM

Well corruption was a little bit difficult but communism helped to ease that a lot. Not wipe it out completely of course but it really really helped. Also communism was a great way to support a large army. I remember having an army size around 2 000 in some games, of course I had around 300 cities or so. Civ III also had bigger maps, the only maps that could surpass Civ III on Civ 4 was Terra maps but that's about it. On Civ III complete you have a great degree of choice from user created maps that were included in the pack, much like my favorite Kal El's world map where I played the Russian empire invading the world. I would suggest getting the classic game of Civ III

UWHabs · Dec 12, 2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RedGeneral

Well corruption was a little bit difficult but communism helped to ease that a lot. Not wipe it out completely of course but it really really helped. Also communism was a great way to support a large army. I remember having an army size around 2 000 in some games, of course I had around 300 cities or so. Civ III also had bigger maps, the only maps that could surpass Civ III on Civ 4 was Terra maps but that's about it. On Civ III complete you have a great degree of choice from user created maps that were included in the pack, much like my favorite Kal El's world map where I played the Russian empire invading the world. I would suggest getting the classic game of Civ III

I always found when I was playing civ 3 that communism was horrible with large maps. Instead of having my 10-20 core cities as nearly corruption-free and able to produce units, I had every city with like 50-60% corruption, so that, yes, my new cities could get more than 1 shield a turn, but my old ones weren't strong enough anymore to be the military pump that I would have wanted.

mythmonster2 · Dec 12, 2008, 04:20 PM

If you really hate corruption that much, you could just mod it out or reduce it. That's what I did. If you do that, Civ 3, definitely. I find it much more enjoyable than Civ 4 (let the flaming begin)

allunderheaven · Dec 12, 2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mythmonster2

If you really hate corruption that much, you could just mod it out or reduce it. That's what I did. If you do that, Civ 3, definitely. I find it much more enjoyable than Civ 4 (let the flaming begin)

That would be a great solution, but I don't have any idea how to mod

. Are there any mods availabe that reduce corruption?

mythmonster2 · Dec 12, 2008, 11:01 PM

Well, there is this thread I made... Alternatively, you could go into there and instead of reducing corruption, increase the Optimal City Number to some insanely high number. I believe this will stop 1-shield cities.

Sciguy001 · Dec 14, 2008, 07:53 AM

Civ III gold, that is what I want to get. It seems to fix the bugs of Civ III and offer new play styles. I do not realy recomend getting Revolution for the DS because the AI is so stupid that it makes them predictable and redundent, and even on Diety they do no pose a threat to people who have payed civ 3 or 4.
Civilization colonization has awsome ideas and gameplay concepts, its just that Firaxis did a bad job organizing it into a game. There are so many bugs you never stop finding new ones and the replayablibity factor is limited with only four civs and one way to win the game.

GONdorman · Dec 14, 2008, 08:20 AM

My personal favourite is CIV3, however im considering changing to CIV4, which has a lot more features. CIV3 rulezzzz anyways

allunderheaven · Dec 14, 2008, 10:27 AM

My Conclusion so far:

Civ Colonization: great game ideas, lots of unfixed bugs, good price

Civ Rev DS: bad graphics, linear gameplay, stupid AI, OK price

Civ III Complete: much better gameplay than vanilla Civ III, cannot find it anywhere anymore

TheEnforcer · Dec 14, 2008, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allunderheaven

My Conclusion so far:

Civ Colonization: great game ideas, lots of unfixed bugs, good price

Civ Rev DS: bad graphics, linear gameplay, stupid AI, OK price

Civ III Complete: much better gameplay than vanilla Civ III, cannot find it anywhere anymore

Amazon.com is your friend. And occasionally WalMart has the old Civ III complete.

Dec 10, 2008, 10:43 PM	#1
allunderheaven Settler Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 160	Civ Rev, Colonization or Civ 3 Complete? I want to get a Civilization game for Christmas...again but, I don't know which one to get. I have Civ 3 vanilla but I didn't like it much, I found the game rather tedious, I like my games a little faster and shall I say, a little less epic but I have heard that the expansion packs make it far more enjoyable. I don't need huge maps, and I'm okay with micromanagement. Can anyone tell me if the multiplayer for the CivRev DS works? What would you guys recommend? Thanks!

Dec 10, 2008, 11:35 PM	#2
Lord Parkin aka emperor Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Zealand Posts: 6,344	Out of those three games, I've only played one, so I can't really give a balanced opinion. However, I think I'll be a heathen to this forum, and highly recommend that you try out Civ4. Civ3 Complete is still very good, though. The games are still of about the same length as normal Civ3, but there are more things to do, see, and build. If the game length is really a trouble for you, then perhaps you'd be better off with something like CivRev - I've heard from several friends that it's quite a decent game, and much shorter than both Civ3 and Civ4. __________________ Lord Parkin / emperor Read all about my adventures in the Realms Beyond Pitboss 4 game! All Leader Challenge games: ALC #26: Willem van Oranje/Dutch Sisiutil and Lord Parkin take on eight AI teams in a Multiplayer Team Game battle of wits! Member of: Team Innovia - Civ4 MTDG \| Team Saturn - BTS MTDG \| Team Sirius - BTS MTDG II Looking for Civilization III maps? Check out the Parkin Creations CFC Map Library.

Dec 10, 2008, 11:50 PM	#3
PieceOfMind Drill IV Defender Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 9,142	I've seen Colonization and from what I've been told it's pretty much a clone of the original game, if you happen to have played that. Civ4 is probably the deepest and most replayable of all the current games. CivRev definitely offers shorter games but at the expense of smaller maps and limited options and depth. I liked civ4 a lot more than civ3 by the way, but others are different and preferred civ3. I think in any case Civ4 would be a better option than Colonization. If you must get one of the three you mentioned though I'd probably reccommend CivRev. It plays more like classic civ than colonization does. __________________ Tip: Forcing Steam's Offline Mode Civ4 Mods: Advanced Combat Odds, PIG Mod(discontinued), HEX Mod(discontinued) Suggestion: Try karadoc's K-Mod: Far Beyond the Sword Read if bored: Zoom-To-Cursor, Good advice from Kaell for DX11 users, Nvidia beats AMD in Civ V

Dec 12, 2008, 03:30 AM	#10
r_rolo1 King of myself Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 13,818	If you can stand the graphics, definitely civ III. __________________ " I'm the Lord of the lords, not the servant of the serfs" - D. João II of Portugal My Civ lema: Qui vincit non est victor nisi victus fatetur Lonely Hearts Club Bullpen / You , Yourself and your shadow : Some lessons on isolated starts

Dec 12, 2008, 04:20 PM	#14
mythmonster2 BEC NOIR! RUN! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston TX, Yeeeehaw! Posts: 2,319 Images: 2	If you really hate corruption that much, you could just mod it out or reduce it. That's what I did. If you do that, Civ 3, definitely. I find it much more enjoyable than Civ 4 (let the flaming begin) __________________ I is smart! Bow to me king of the idiots duh... i mean bwahahaha! Masia in OptNES III. Lasche in AngNES I

Dec 11, 2008, 01:10 PM	#4
Wodan Deity Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dresden, ME Posts: 4,450 Images: 2	Civ Rev, easy answer. Colonization and Civ 3 are both too broken. Enjoyable, but given an alternative they're clearly 2nd rate. (Col may be improved when/if the patches mod it to a better state.)

Dec 11, 2008, 04:11 PM	#5
allunderheaven Settler Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 160	I forgot to tell everyone, but I already have Civ 4 and BTS, in fact, I think its the best Civ game in the series and one of the best games I ever played. But even if it was so fun, I'm not gonna buy it again, that would be crazy!

Dec 12, 2008, 12:59 AM	#9
Endure Prince Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 307	I have civ rev on the DS and I've only ever had a game crash once on me in it. Not really sure what happened, but I went to save my game, and the screen telling me the game was saving, please wait, never went away, even after I left my DS for 10 minutes and came back. That said, I don't find civ rev on the DS that enjoyable. I played the heck out of it for the first 2 weeks that I had it...got bored and now only ever play it if I'm traveling.

Dec 12, 2008, 10:11 AM	#11
allunderheaven Settler Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 160	The thing I hate about Civ III is that the corruption is almost game-breaking IMO, and the games usually take longer than my short attention span ...Has the corruption thing been fixed or is it just me who finds it extremely annoying?

Dec 12, 2008, 10:53 AM	#12
RedGeneral Chieftain Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3	Well corruption was a little bit difficult but communism helped to ease that a lot. Not wipe it out completely of course but it really really helped. Also communism was a great way to support a large army. I remember having an army size around 2 000 in some games, of course I had around 300 cities or so. Civ III also had bigger maps, the only maps that could surpass Civ III on Civ 4 was Terra maps but that's about it. On Civ III complete you have a great degree of choice from user created maps that were included in the pack, much like my favorite Kal El's world map where I played the Russian empire invading the world. I would suggest getting the classic game of Civ III

Dec 12, 2008, 11:01 PM	#16
mythmonster2 BEC NOIR! RUN! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston TX, Yeeeehaw! Posts: 2,319 Images: 2	Well, there is this thread I made... Alternatively, you could go into there and instead of reducing corruption, increase the Optimal City Number to some insanely high number. I believe this will stop 1-shield cities. __________________ I is smart! Bow to me king of the idiots duh... i mean bwahahaha! Masia in OptNES III. Lasche in AngNES I

Dec 14, 2008, 07:53 AM	#17
Sciguy001 CiV Great Scientist (duh) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: the CFC Forums Posts: 556	Civ III gold, that is what I want to get. It seems to fix the bugs of Civ III and offer new play styles. I do not realy recomend getting Revolution for the DS because the AI is so stupid that it makes them predictable and redundent, and even on Diety they do no pose a threat to people who have payed civ 3 or 4. Civilization colonization has awsome ideas and gameplay concepts, its just that Firaxis did a bad job organizing it into a game. There are so many bugs you never stop finding new ones and the replayablibity factor is limited with only four civs and one way to win the game. __________________ Post this in your signature if you, for one, welcome your new giant death robot overlords. My goal: To have my 555th post (VVV) on September 20th

Dec 14, 2008, 08:20 AM	#18
GONdorman ROCK´N ROLL PEOPLE!!!! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Argentina, South America Posts: 89	My personal favourite is CIV3, however im considering changing to CIV4, which has a lot more features. CIV3 rulezzzz anyways

Dec 14, 2008, 10:27 AM	#19
allunderheaven Settler Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 160	My Conclusion so far: Civ Colonization: great game ideas, lots of unfixed bugs, good price Civ Rev DS: bad graphics, linear gameplay, stupid AI, OK price Civ III Complete: much better gameplay than vanilla Civ III, cannot find it anywhere anymore

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