Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

EmperorFool · Jan 19, 2009, 09:12 PM

For answers to the most common questions, please see the brand new BUG/BAT FAQ.

syndicatedragon · Mar 23, 2009, 02:10 PM

Here are a few questions to add/answer: How can update a savegame using BUG 3.5.1 (installed as a mod) to BUG 3.6? How can I "divorce" my savegame from BUG when used as a mod?

EmperorFool · Mar 23, 2009, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syndicatedragon

Here are a few questions to add/answer: How can update a savegame using BUG 3.5.1 (installed as a mod) to BUG 3.6? How can I "divorce" my savegame from BUG when used as a mod?

Doing these requires editing the savedgame using a program with a hex editor (e.g. Notepad++). Removing the mod is easy: just delete the mod's name. I haven't tried changing it yet, but it probably requires only changing the name in-place.

syndicatedragon · Mar 23, 2009, 02:46 PM

Bummer, sounds scary. I guess I'll wait until I finish this game to upgrade.

syndicatedragon · Mar 23, 2009, 03:40 PM

Is there any way to have multiple versions installed at once?

EmperorFool · Mar 23, 2009, 06:11 PM

Yes, you can install multiple versions of BUG using the mod/multiplayer install method. You can even have them share your settings by moving the BUG Mod folder that holds the help and INI files out to your My Games folder. Make sure you remove the other ones that get installed so they don't get seen instead.

syndicatedragon · Mar 23, 2009, 06:42 PM

Could you give me a little more detail? For example, I currently have BUG 3.5.1 installed as a mod. So I have My Games/Beyond The Sword/BUG Mod & My Games/Beyond The Sword/MODS/BUG Mod 3.5.1

Where do I move the BUG Mod folder exactly, so I can install 3.6 (which I assume will want to install its own My Games/Beyond The Sword/BUG Mod folder)?

EmperorFool · Mar 23, 2009, 08:46 PM

Ah, did you have a previous version of BUG installed to the CustomAssets folder? I believe that the INI files inside the My Games/BTS/BUG Mod folder are the ones being used by BUG 3.5.1 right now. You can check this by looking at the modification dates of the INI files inside the folder and comparing them to those in "BUG Mod 3.5.1/BUG Mod".

When you install BUG 3.6, simply remove the BUG Mod folder inside it: "BUG Mod 3.6/BUG Mod". You may want to copy the .chm (help) files from it to the BUG Mod folder in My Games/BTS.

Yes, I know this is confusing. I will be renaming the "BUG Mod" folder (adding "Settings") in a future release. If you want to see where BUG is looking for INI files, open the BUG Options screen (ALT + CTRL + O) and select the System tab. Look at the Search Paths list. BUG starts at the top and looks for each INI file going down the list. Typically you would have them all in the same folder, but that's not required. It only lists paths that actually exist.

syndicatedragon · Mar 24, 2009, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmperorFool

Ah, did you have a previous version of BUG installed to the CustomAssets folder? I believe that the INI files inside the My Games/BTS/BUG Mod folder are the ones being used by BUG 3.5.1 right now. You can check this by looking at the modification dates of the INI files inside the folder and comparing them to those in "BUG Mod 3.5.1/BUG Mod".

When you install BUG 3.6, simply remove the BUG Mod folder inside it: "BUG Mod 3.6/BUG Mod". You may want to copy the .chm (help) files from it to the BUG Mod folder in My Games/BTS.

Yes, I know this is confusing. I will be renaming the "BUG Mod" folder (adding "Settings") in a future release. If you want to see where BUG is looking for INI files, open the BUG Options screen (ALT + CTRL + O) and select the System tab. Look at the Search Paths list. BUG starts at the top and looks for each INI file going down the list. Typically you would have them all in the same folder, but that's not required. It only lists paths that actually exist.

So, in other words, the files in the BUG Mod folder are backwards compatible and can be shared between versions?

Thanks for the info, this will help a lot I think.

EmperorFool · Mar 24, 2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by syndicatedragon

So, in other words, the files in the BUG Mod folder are backwards compatible and can be shared between versions?

So far, yes they are.

I hope to keep that going forward, and I will post a big note everywhere if that ever changes.

syndicatedragon · Mar 24, 2009, 05:38 PM

Everything seems to work OK. I installed BUG 3.6, moved it to My Games/Beyond The Sword/MODS (I like to keep mods here as opposed to the main folder), and deleted the BUG 3.6/Assets/BUG Mod folder. Both versions seem to work OK with this setup. Thanks for your help!

Mylon · Mar 31, 2009, 09:14 AM

Does BUG include any of the unofficial patches? I'm curious about getting into modding again and I'm still considering what to use as my starting point. Vanilla BtS is right out. FFH looks promising, but perhaps with some radical changes I can make the basic game appealing once more.

Sam_Yeager · Mar 31, 2009, 12:01 PM

Why is this thread not stickied?

EmperorFool · Mar 31, 2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mylon

Does BUG include any of the unofficial patches?

It contains the Python fixes, and you can use the UP DLL with BUG. When I release the BUG DLL, I will have a version with the UP in it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mylon

I'm curious about getting into modding again and I'm still considering what to use as my starting point.

Many other people have used BUG this way or merged BUG into their existing mods. I built the 3.0 version of BUG with an eye toward making this easier, especially if you are modding from scratch.

I'm working on a complete example to showcase the differences between the old style and the new style of handling events that BUG makes possible. The end goal is to show the simplest way to mod in BUG for people building new mods.

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Originally Posted by Sam_Yeager

Why is this thread not stickied?

Done.

ruff_hi · Apr 02, 2009, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam_Yeager

Why is this thread not stickied?

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmperorFool

Done.

You can do that? Why can't I do that? Who did you have to #$%@#@ to get that ability?

EmperorFool · Apr 02, 2009, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruff_hi

You can do that?

I use the Thunderfall plugin.

Amao · Apr 25, 2009, 02:18 AM

I'm playing Scenario Earth18Civ, BUG loads normally but not if i selected Locked Asset. Is it normal? BtS 3.17 + .19 + BUG 3.6 on Windows XP x64

ruff_hi · Apr 25, 2009, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amao

I'm playing Scenario Earth18Civ, BUG loads normally but not if i selected Locked Asset. Is it normal? BtS 3.17 + .19 + BUG 3.6 on Windows XP x64

Totally - standard Civ4 - locked modified assets means that certain files in your customassets folder are not loaded (py, xml, etc). Other files (ie BlueMarble) are not affected (ie they load).

walkie · Jun 27, 2009, 07:55 AM

hi guysş

i started to use bug mode a little while ago..my question is, is there a way to start game directly under bug mode?

i mean when i start the game, i should choose load a mod or when i load game, civ needs to restart so i wanna i short cut to start directly in bug mode if it is possible

EmperorFool · Jun 27, 2009, 08:14 AM

The latest installer (3.6) creates a shortcut in your Start menu if you leave the option checked. Otherwise you have to options.

1. Create your own shortcut. Copy the BTS shortcut, paste it somewhere, right-click it, select Properties. Now add

/mod="BUG Mod 3.6"

to the end of the target. Not that the name inside the quotes must match the folder in your Mods folder exactly, and you need a space before the "/mod" part.

2. Make it so BTS loads BUG every time you launch it automatically. Edit the CivilizationIV.ini file with Notepad and change this line

Mod = 0

to this

Mod = BUG Mod 3.6

Again, the name must match the folder exactly.

Jan 19, 2009, 09:12 PM	#1
EmperorFool Deity Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mountain View, California Posts: 9,624	Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) For answers to the most common questions, please see the brand new BUG/BAT FAQ. __________________ Monkeys killing monkeys killing monkeys over pieces of the ground. Silly monkeys, give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. BUG Mod - BTS Unaltered Gameplay [ Forum \| Download \| FAQ \| Known Issues \| Troubleshooting \| Modding Tutorial ] BAT 3.0.1 QuickFix™ released Oct 24th

Mar 23, 2009, 06:11 PM	#6
EmperorFool Deity Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mountain View, California Posts: 9,624	Yes, you can install multiple versions of BUG using the mod/multiplayer install method. You can even have them share your settings by moving the BUG Mod folder that holds the help and INI files out to your My Games folder. Make sure you remove the other ones that get installed so they don't get seen instead. __________________ Monkeys killing monkeys killing monkeys over pieces of the ground. Silly monkeys, give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. BUG Mod - BTS Unaltered Gameplay [ Forum \| Download \| FAQ \| Known Issues \| Troubleshooting \| Modding Tutorial ] BAT 3.0.1 QuickFix™ released Oct 24th

Mar 23, 2009, 08:46 PM	#8
EmperorFool Deity Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mountain View, California Posts: 9,624	Ah, did you have a previous version of BUG installed to the CustomAssets folder? I believe that the INI files inside the My Games/BTS/BUG Mod folder are the ones being used by BUG 3.5.1 right now. You can check this by looking at the modification dates of the INI files inside the folder and comparing them to those in "BUG Mod 3.5.1/BUG Mod". When you install BUG 3.6, simply remove the BUG Mod folder inside it: "BUG Mod 3.6/BUG Mod". You may want to copy the .chm (help) files from it to the BUG Mod folder in My Games/BTS. Yes, I know this is confusing. I will be renaming the "BUG Mod" folder (adding "Settings") in a future release. If you want to see where BUG is looking for INI files, open the BUG Options screen (ALT + CTRL + O) and select the System tab. Look at the Search Paths list. BUG starts at the top and looks for each INI file going down the list. Typically you would have them all in the same folder, but that's not required. It only lists paths that actually exist. __________________ Monkeys killing monkeys killing monkeys over pieces of the ground. Silly monkeys, give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. BUG Mod - BTS Unaltered Gameplay [ Forum \| Download \| FAQ \| Known Issues \| Troubleshooting \| Modding Tutorial ] BAT 3.0.1 QuickFix™ released Oct 24th

Mar 31, 2009, 09:14 AM	#12
Mylon Amateur Game Designer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,011	Does BUG include any of the unofficial patches? I'm curious about getting into modding again and I'm still considering what to use as my starting point. Vanilla BtS is right out. FFH looks promising, but perhaps with some radical changes I can make the basic game appealing once more. __________________ Active: Civ 5 Mod components Mylon Mega Mod - Holistic Cultural model, enhanced resources, and more! No longer maintained: Broken Loose - A Modmodmod for Fall Further, featuring cultural and economic improvements

Mar 31, 2009, 12:01 PM	#13
Sam_Yeager Another Original Geezer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: England Posts: 2,768	Why is this thread not stickied? __________________ Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. Abraham Lincoln

Mar 23, 2009, 02:10 PM	#2
syndicatedragon Warlord Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St. Louis Posts: 135	Here are a few questions to add/answer: How can update a savegame using BUG 3.5.1 (installed as a mod) to BUG 3.6? How can I "divorce" my savegame from BUG when used as a mod?

Mar 23, 2009, 02:46 PM	#4
syndicatedragon Warlord Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St. Louis Posts: 135	Bummer, sounds scary. I guess I'll wait until I finish this game to upgrade.

Mar 23, 2009, 03:40 PM	#5
syndicatedragon Warlord Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St. Louis Posts: 135	Is there any way to have multiple versions installed at once?

Mar 23, 2009, 06:42 PM	#7
syndicatedragon Warlord Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St. Louis Posts: 135	Could you give me a little more detail? For example, I currently have BUG 3.5.1 installed as a mod. So I have My Games/Beyond The Sword/BUG Mod & My Games/Beyond The Sword/MODS/BUG Mod 3.5.1 Where do I move the BUG Mod folder exactly, so I can install 3.6 (which I assume will want to install its own My Games/Beyond The Sword/BUG Mod folder)?

Mar 24, 2009, 05:38 PM	#11
syndicatedragon Warlord Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St. Louis Posts: 135	Everything seems to work OK. I installed BUG 3.6, moved it to My Games/Beyond The Sword/MODS (I like to keep mods here as opposed to the main folder), and deleted the BUG 3.6/Assets/BUG Mod folder. Both versions seem to work OK with this setup. Thanks for your help!

Apr 25, 2009, 02:18 AM	#17
Amao Prince Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shanghai Posts: 585	I'm playing Scenario Earth18Civ, BUG loads normally but not if i selected Locked Asset. Is it normal? BtS 3.17 + .19 + BUG 3.6 on Windows XP x64 __________________ There is no dark There is just absence of light.

Jun 27, 2009, 07:55 AM	#19
walkie Chieftain Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 27	hi guysş i started to use bug mode a little while ago..my question is, is there a way to start game directly under bug mode? i mean when i start the game, i should choose load a mod or when i load game, civ needs to restart so i wanna i short cut to start directly in bug mode if it is possible

Jun 27, 2009, 08:14 AM	#20
EmperorFool Deity Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mountain View, California Posts: 9,624	The latest installer (3.6) creates a shortcut in your Start menu if you leave the option checked. Otherwise you have to options. 1. Create your own shortcut. Copy the BTS shortcut, paste it somewhere, right-click it, select Properties. Now add /mod="BUG Mod 3.6" to the end of the target. Not that the name inside the quotes must match the folder in your Mods folder exactly, and you need a space before the "/mod" part. 2. Make it so BTS loads BUG every time you launch it automatically. Edit the CivilizationIV.ini file with Notepad and change this line Mod = 0 to this Mod = BUG Mod 3.6 Again, the name must match the folder exactly. __________________ Monkeys killing monkeys killing monkeys over pieces of the ground. Silly monkeys, give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. BUG Mod - BTS Unaltered Gameplay [ Forum \| Download \| FAQ \| Known Issues \| Troubleshooting \| Modding Tutorial ] BAT 3.0.1 QuickFix™ released Oct 24th

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