Adding new tech trees

Flying Pig · Jan 29, 2009, 11:19 AM

Is it possible to have 2 tech trees for two civs, so for example the British might invent railroad while the aussies are inventing boomerangs or something, and by implivation making only one=civ availiable wonders like Mt. Rushmore

mechaerik · Jan 29, 2009, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying Pig

Is it possible to have 2 tech trees for two civs, so for example the British might invent railroad while the aussies are inventing boomerangs or something, and by implivation making only one=civ availiable wonders like Mt. Rushmore

It is indeed, in the CivilizationsInfo xml file. There is a unique tech section somewhere. I'm not at my civ computer, but on a school Mac (

), so i'll confirm later.

This can also be used for the wonders, but you could make a BUILDINGCLASS_GENERIC_WONDER and have each civ replace it with.. its.. own..(

).

Flying Pig · Jan 31, 2009, 12:18 PM

I see... and by extension, can you have unique civics?

mechaerik · Jan 31, 2009, 01:51 PM

I suppose so, with the new tech unlocking the new civic. Interesting idea.

The_J · Jan 31, 2009, 06:00 PM

For unique civics, you could use zCivics (needs ZModularPython).

Flying Pig · Feb 01, 2009, 06:10 AM

The vanilla desert war game has unique civics, but all of the enemy techs and civics show up - can they be removed?

The_J · Feb 01, 2009, 02:10 PM

Haven't looked at the mod, but i think, that it can't be done.
It it is in the game, it will show up.

Tholish · Feb 06, 2009, 01:07 AM

For each tech tree you could use a prerequisite tech that cannot be researched or traded, then give it as a free tech to the civs you want using that tree. The other tech tree would be visible (presumably way down in Y) but you wouldn't be able to research on it unless you started with the special prereq.

Flying Pig · Feb 06, 2009, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tholish

For each tech tree you could use a prerequisite tech that cannot be researched or traded, then give it as a free tech to the civs you want using that tree. The other tech tree would be visible (presumably way down in Y) but you wouldn't be able to research on it unless you started with the special prereq.

Yes, that is how the Desert War people do it. So, there is no way to have tow completely isolated tech trees?

Shiggs713 · Feb 06, 2009, 11:14 AM

yes, Tholish just explained how. Give each civ a specialized technology that none of the others get... that is the beginning of a completely isolated tech tree....

Flying Pig · Feb 07, 2009, 06:51 AM

No: I mean one which gives no clue as to its existance unless you are on it.

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Jan 31, 2009, 12:18 PM	#3
Flying Pig Utrinque Paratus Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Perfidious Albion Posts: 10,381 Images: 2	I see... and by extension, can you have unique civics? __________________ Articles: Civ IV: A Guide to Modern Warfare in BTS\|On Amphibious Warfare in BTS\|Special Forces\|The Complete Guide to Promotions\|BTS Logistics\| *History:* Utrinque Paratus\|The Falklands War\|The Crimean War\|Who Dares Wins\|Not Quite Mandalay\|Tell Them of Us \|It Never Snows in SeptemberOther: A Spot of Kipling\|Housman\|Ask a Soldier Civ IV: Mod: The Falklands War\|*Units:* British Armed Police\|Alpine Trooper\|Spanish Knight\|Medic\|*Mod Components:* Improved Farming\|Insurgency\|Civilization: United Kingdom for BTS\|Tutorial: The Cheat's Guide to Making Units

Feb 01, 2009, 06:10 AM	#6
Flying Pig Utrinque Paratus Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Perfidious Albion Posts: 10,381 Images: 2	The vanilla desert war game has unique civics, but all of the enemy techs and civics show up - can they be removed? __________________ Articles: Civ IV: A Guide to Modern Warfare in BTS\|On Amphibious Warfare in BTS\|Special Forces\|The Complete Guide to Promotions\|BTS Logistics\| *History:* Utrinque Paratus\|The Falklands War\|The Crimean War\|Who Dares Wins\|Not Quite Mandalay\|Tell Them of Us \|It Never Snows in SeptemberOther: A Spot of Kipling\|Housman\|Ask a Soldier Civ IV: Mod: The Falklands War\|*Units:* British Armed Police\|Alpine Trooper\|Spanish Knight\|Medic\|*Mod Components:* Improved Farming\|Insurgency\|Civilization: United Kingdom for BTS\|Tutorial: The Cheat's Guide to Making Units

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Shiggs713 Immortal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,320	yes, Tholish just explained how. Give each civ a specialized technology that none of the others get... that is the beginning of a completely isolated tech tree.... __________________ "Know thy self, know thy enemy. A thousand battles, a thousand victories. " - Sun Tzu Shiggs Earth - A ciV map and mod CivEarth.com - a fanatics site for multi-player Earth Scenario's for cIV & ciV

Feb 07, 2009, 06:51 AM	#11
Flying Pig Utrinque Paratus Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Perfidious Albion Posts: 10,381 Images: 2	No: I mean one which gives no clue as to its existance unless you are on it. __________________ Articles: Civ IV: A Guide to Modern Warfare in BTS\|On Amphibious Warfare in BTS\|Special Forces\|The Complete Guide to Promotions\|BTS Logistics\| *History:* Utrinque Paratus\|The Falklands War\|The Crimean War\|Who Dares Wins\|Not Quite Mandalay\|Tell Them of Us \|It Never Snows in SeptemberOther: A Spot of Kipling\|Housman\|Ask a Soldier Civ IV: Mod: The Falklands War\|*Units:* British Armed Police\|Alpine Trooper\|Spanish Knight\|Medic\|*Mod Components:* Improved Farming\|Insurgency\|Civilization: United Kingdom for BTS\|Tutorial: The Cheat's Guide to Making Units

Jan 31, 2009, 01:51 PM	#4
mechaerik General Guy Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,526	I suppose so, with the new tech unlocking the new civic. Interesting idea.

Jan 31, 2009, 06:00 PM	#5
The_J Say No 2 Net Validations Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Germany / Netherlands Posts: 24,843 Images: 51	For unique civics, you could use zCivics (needs ZModularPython).

Feb 01, 2009, 02:10 PM	#7
The_J Say No 2 Net Validations Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Germany / Netherlands Posts: 24,843 Images: 51	Haven't looked at the mod, but i think, that it can't be done. It it is in the game, it will show up.

Feb 06, 2009, 01:07 AM	#8
Tholish Emperor Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Japan Posts: 1,344	For each tech tree you could use a prerequisite tech that cannot be researched or traded, then give it as a free tech to the civs you want using that tree. The other tech tree would be visible (presumably way down in Y) but you wouldn't be able to research on it unless you started with the special prereq.

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