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Old Jan 30, 2009, 03:31 PM   #1
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First game on Prince

(Note: this is for Civ 4 vanilla, latest patch)

Hi all,
I am looking to start my first game on Prince setting, and it seems to me I need to really get a lot of practice in to get some of the advanced skills down. So I bring my game into the public spotlight so that my lack of skill can be thoroughly mocked... and also, so I can get tips and perhaps even learn something.

So I figured I would use these settings:
Normal speed
Prince difficulty
Pangaea
Small map
Temperate
Medium sea level
Natural Shoreline

As for leader, I am not sure yet.... I always play as Gandhi on noble difficulty, but I dont think that will cut it here. I also want to try the cottage economy. I was considering either Isabella (for her UU) or Peter.

So would Peter be a good leader to start with?
Any other comments/suggestions before I begin?
Thanks!
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Old Jan 30, 2009, 03:34 PM   #2
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Peter is one of the weaker leaders imo; below average UU, very late and thus often irrelevant UB. Traits are ok.

Isabella has even weaker traits - Spi << Phi imo but Spi is easier to leverage (running an SE is optimal with Philosophical and it takes micromanagement). Isabella's UU Conquistador is top 5 (or close to it) in the game imo and the UB is very powerful too - it gives already powerful siege more XP. Go for Izzy!!
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Old Jan 30, 2009, 03:38 PM   #3
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Don't factor UB's, I am using Vanillia.

I am also OK with using other leaders if you or someone else has a better suggestion.
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Old Jan 30, 2009, 03:41 PM   #4
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I like to play on normal speed with everything random, including the leader. This has helped me inprove more than using specific settings.

Anyhow, good luck on Prince. You should post a save or two, whenever you have the time.
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Old Jan 30, 2009, 03:42 PM   #5
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I like cossacks. If you can get MT and Rifling before the AI, all the cuiriassers and knights that the AI love to build will be useless. Promote them to pinch and you'll be able to crush any AI without rifling.
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Old Jan 30, 2009, 03:49 PM   #6
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Peter it is, then!

I will get some screenshots up soon of my opening.


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Old Jan 30, 2009, 04:14 PM   #7
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So it seems my initial spot is an good spot for defense. I am keen on the gold and ivory tiles close by, as well.
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Old Jan 30, 2009, 04:39 PM   #8
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You may want to try with a normal size map. SMALL-map doesn't really count worth anything.
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Old Jan 30, 2009, 07:31 PM   #9
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I am more trying to get a feel for new strategies; mainly, SE and CE. My next game will be a normal size map.
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Old Jan 30, 2009, 08:10 PM   #10
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Vanilla? Refresh my memory, is the Cossack still uber good there?
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No, it got nerfed in a patch
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No, it got nerfed in a patch
How so? What changed?
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How so? What changed?
It lost a strength buff (18 str, as I recall, vs 15).
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Old Feb 02, 2009, 05:35 AM   #14
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quechua rush

I just won my first Prince game by Conquest: vanilla version, standard map, epic speed.

I used VirusMonster's Deity strategy in this game, and think it overkills at Prince level. You may want to give it a try. Here's the link: http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/strategy/inca_deity.php
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Old Feb 02, 2009, 07:12 AM   #15
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Thanks, I'll give it a try
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