Must i reinstall or something?

CarnivalBizarre · Feb 05, 2009, 08:04 AM

Hi, been playing FFH2 for a long time, but never gotten around to fall further yet, so now I have tried it 10 times or so. The longest worked for 300 turns, but most only for like 30 turns or so. Then you see the lag on the computer since the graphics gets slow, and when I hit next turn it CTD. And then no of the saves work either. They worked before...

FFH2 works fine thought. Anyone come across this? Seems like it's not a bug since everybody seems to be playing but rather... my installation? I have also gotten bad memory allocation errors in Fall further, but only a couple...

Grimz101 · Feb 05, 2009, 12:31 PM

Which patch you using?

xienwolf · Feb 05, 2009, 05:48 PM

The visible slow-down followed by a crash is generally a sign that you don't have Python Exceptions enabled and it is TRYING to yell at you that something went wrong, then finally dying from the problem.

CarnivalBizarre · Feb 06, 2009, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimz101

Which patch you using?

this has happened for me with several of the patches....

CarnivalBizarre · Feb 06, 2009, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xienwolf

The visible slow-down followed by a crash is generally a sign that you don't have Python Exceptions enabled and it is TRYING to yell at you that something went wrong, then finally dying from the problem.

Ok,how do I enable python exceptions then?

Methuselah · Feb 06, 2009, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CarnivalBizarre

Ok,how do I enable python exceptions then?

You want the CivilizationIV.ini file (by default it's located in My Documents\My Games\Beyond the Sword.)

Open it with notepad/wordpad etc, and find the lines:

; Set to 1 for no python exception popups
HidePythonExceptions = 1

Change them to:

; Set to 1 for no python exception popups
HidePythonExceptions = 0

Save the file and exit, and then run the game.

CarnivalBizarre · Feb 06, 2009, 04:11 AM

Thanks, done that. Funny that I didn't remember that since I just changed the autosave number and frequency just two weeks ago...

Since I ran a few normal FFH2 games my saves were overwritten. Gonna start a new game and try it until it fails again...

CarnivalBizarre · Feb 06, 2009, 04:49 AM

Oh, I get exceptions every turn, several of them. The game still seems to work though... ???

Methuselah · Feb 06, 2009, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CarnivalBizarre

Oh, I get exceptions every turn, several of them. The game still seems to work though... ???

The exceptions won't necessarily crash the game, but they can prevent some events/features from working correctly.

CarnivalBizarre · Feb 06, 2009, 05:17 AM

Maybe my installation was wrong. I didn't base fall further on an unpatched FFH2, because, noone leaves their FFH2 installation unpatched. Can this be the cause?

Jean Elcard · Feb 06, 2009, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CarnivalBizarre

Oh, I get exceptions every turn, several of them. The game still seems to work though... ???

This one reminded me, that I still have to write a workaround for this problem. For some reason some systems run out of enough memory to handle a graphics update for the whole map at once. Maybe the MAF fix would help here too.

CarnivalBizarre · Feb 06, 2009, 05:52 AM

reinstalled both FFh2 and Fall further... still is fubared... I admit defeat...

zup · Feb 06, 2009, 07:05 AM

I never found out which FFH patch I needed so I dumped FF over FFH 040p and hoped for the best. And applied patch A (the latest at the time). It was too unstable to play. I don't want those popups so I hide python exceptions.

CarnivalBizarre · Feb 06, 2009, 12:58 PM

Well, I'm gonna stick with FFh2 instead, but it seemed fun before it crashed

That's life for ya...

Feb 05, 2009, 08:04 AM	#1
CarnivalBizarre Chieftain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northen Sweden Posts: 93	Must i reinstall or something? Hi, been playing FFH2 for a long time, but never gotten around to fall further yet, so now I have tried it 10 times or so. The longest worked for 300 turns, but most only for like 30 turns or so. Then you see the lag on the computer since the graphics gets slow, and when I hit next turn it CTD. And then no of the saves work either. They worked before... FFH2 works fine thought. Anyone come across this? Seems like it's not a bug since everybody seems to be playing but rather... my installation? I have also gotten bad memory allocation errors in Fall further, but only a couple...

Feb 05, 2009, 05:48 PM	#3
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Feb 05, 2009, 12:31 PM	#2
Grimz101 King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 972	Which patch you using?

Feb 06, 2009, 04:11 AM	#7
CarnivalBizarre Chieftain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northen Sweden Posts: 93	Thanks, done that. Funny that I didn't remember that since I just changed the autosave number and frequency just two weeks ago... Since I ran a few normal FFH2 games my saves were overwritten. Gonna start a new game and try it until it fails again...

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CarnivalBizarre Chieftain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northen Sweden Posts: 93	Oh, I get exceptions every turn, several of them. The game still seems to work though... ???

Feb 06, 2009, 05:17 AM	#10
CarnivalBizarre Chieftain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northen Sweden Posts: 93	Maybe my installation was wrong. I didn't base fall further on an unpatched FFH2, because, noone leaves their FFH2 installation unpatched. Can this be the cause?

Feb 06, 2009, 05:52 AM	#12
CarnivalBizarre Chieftain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northen Sweden Posts: 93	reinstalled both FFh2 and Fall further... still is fubared... I admit defeat...

Feb 06, 2009, 12:58 PM	#14
CarnivalBizarre Chieftain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northen Sweden Posts: 93	Well, I'm gonna stick with FFh2 instead, but it seemed fun before it crashed That's life for ya...

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