Which Nation Do You Play in Civ3 ?

frunobulax · Sep 05, 2002, 03:31 AM

Hail Fellow Mac Civ3'ers,

as I'm just starting out in Civ3 (after 3-4 years as a Mac Civ2 addict) I'm curious to know which nations people prefer playing, particularly when they're intending to play the game in one of the following ways

(a) World Domination
(b) Spaceship Victory
(c) UN Secretary General Victory

thanks

Fruno

P.S. So far I've played 3 games, as the English, Indians and currently the Greeks.... it's only my 3rd week at Civ3

dojoboy · Sep 05, 2002, 04:31 AM

This is difficult, because I never play w/ just one civ. There are a couple which I rarely play, namely the Aztecs & Zulu. I believe your inquiry best suits which persoanlity trait versus which civ. I tend to play most games w/ China, Persia, Babylonians, Russia, and Egypt. The commercail trait is probably the weakest of all traits, in my opinion. The PC 1.29 patch improves this trait which would make the Romans a sweet choice for me. My choices for:

(a) world domination --- a militaristic civ
(b) S/S victory --- a sicence civ
(c) UN victory --- a religious civ

asabahi · Sep 05, 2002, 09:56 AM

I used to play the persians, but now I have kind of like the egyptians now because of the one turn anarchy. Also the high culture right off the begining of the game helps. But those immortals are really powerfull for early wars.

Fier Canadien · Sep 05, 2002, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dojoboy
This is difficult, because I never play w/ just one civ. There are a couple which I rarely play, namely the Aztecs & Zulu. I believe your inquiry best suits which persoanlity trait versus which civ. I tend to play most games w/ China, Persia, Babylonians, Russia, and Egypt. The commercail trait is probably the weakest of all traits, in my opinion. The PC 1.29 patch improves this trait which would make the Romans a sweet choice for me. My choices for:

(a) world domination --- a militaristic civ
(b) S/S victory --- a sicence civ
(c) UN victory --- a religious civ

They changed Commercial in 1.29f??? What did they do to it? I didn't noticed anything about this in the list of changes. But I agree, Commercial doesn't serve me much in 1.21g.

dojoboy · Sep 05, 2002, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fier Canadien
They changed Commercial in 1.29f??? What did they do to it? I didn't noticed anything about this in the list of changes. But I agree, Commercial doesn't serve me much in 1.21g.

They increased the percentage of its bonus for items concerning trade, etc. It ought to be in the 1.29f read-me.

sirromdivad · Sep 05, 2002, 10:55 AM

I have this weird memory of it not being in the read-me, it was something soren or someone mentioned in a chat. Maybe? Maybe it was something else...

dem

Grey Randall · Sep 05, 2002, 11:29 AM

Usually play the Americans exclusively. Only because the Mongols were removed from Civ III ::sniff, pout, sit in a corner and suck thumb:: Ever since switching my SCA persona to Mongolian, I prefer Civing as the Mongols.

::still waiting on that editor so he can add /edit the civs to add the Mongols!!!::

Pigumon · Sep 05, 2002, 12:48 PM

My preference is Persia, Egypt and Japan.

I like fast worker in the former 2 civs. Also, I do not like long time anarchy.
But regarding to UU, immortals and samurais are so great. Samurai arrives in early Middleage, which we can build good Wonders such as Sun Tzu, SC, LW, JSB. Induction of GA at this time point makes a lot of advantage, I think.

So, this time I voted Japanese.

Trabpukcip · Sep 05, 2002, 02:43 PM

I beleive this kind of thread belong in the general civ3 section... but just to play the game, chinese, they are very versatile.

Shogoth · Sep 05, 2002, 02:46 PM

voted persians, their uu is just great and industrious is a wonderfull trait!

why did so many play americans? because most of you are americans (nothing against that)?
the uu is crap,expansionist doesn't appeal to me, allthough on big/huge maps it might be usefull.

the babs or egypt are great for builder games, the french i also like but the uu is useless.

in our gotm i realized that the chinese are good also, especially the riders are middle age tanks and their also industrious!

Sid · Sep 05, 2002, 02:57 PM

I voted 'English', because that's essentially what I am. However, I play lots of civs, depending on my mood, what history I've been reading, whether I want to set-up a win, etc.

Agreed also, the UU sometimes influences my choice. Samurai are great fun, as are the Musketeers--although I'm not too keen on 'Saint Joan'. If I'm feeling pacifist, I'll sometimes go Gandhi, but end up being a warmonger when I get Elephants.

This is a good thread--notice that we're all joining--because the usual suspects are all here. We're all most likely going to be each others' opponents if we ever get to 'play the world'. [Hi Nate!] Welcome frunobulax, this is a great 'little' community and I look forward to your mods when we get the Editor [Hi Nate!]

dojoboy · Sep 05, 2002, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trabpukcip
I beleive this kind of thread belong in the general civ3 section... but just to play the game, chinese, they are very versatile.

Perhaps, but since patch parity doesn't exist between platforms, we are playing a different game to some degree. Commercial trait civs are stronger under 1.29f than 1.21g. Also, bugs can not be confirmed or denied between the two platforms. There are probably other areas as well.

Trabpukcip · Sep 05, 2002, 04:21 PM

That's true dojoboy, but it was just a thought... I know very well that the two platform are much deferent since I starting to plan the unimaginable switch to the dark side. But I will always have a place for a mac in my bed room...

frunobulax · Sep 06, 2002, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sid

Welcome frunobulax, this is a great 'little' community and I look forward to your mods when we get the Editor [Hi Nate!]

Funny, but before the summer I was working on a WW3 Civ2 scenario, which was nearly finished (needed to be converted for PC users...)... but then I bought Civ3.... I can't see me going back now. I wish there was a Mac Editor

as I have loads of ideas for scenarios.... ho hum.

frunobulax · Sep 06, 2002, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trabpukcip
I beleive this kind of thread belong in the general civ3 section... but just to play the game, chinese, they are very versatile.

Maybe you're right, but I guess I was thinking of Mac players, given that we're a patch behind

dojoboy · Sep 06, 2002, 04:24 AM

frunobulax, its great to have you w/ us. Hopefully the mac editor will be out before Halloween, and we can enjoy some of your scenerios.

frunobulax · Sep 06, 2002, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dojoboy
frunobulax, its great to have you w/ us. Hopefully the mac editor will be out before Halloween, and we can enjoy some of your scenerios.

Well thanks dojoboy ! It's great to find some Mac Civ3'ers

out there. I'm still playing a Civ2 PBEM on here, but now I'm converted over to Civ3 I'm just itching to make some scenarios... the ones I *was* working on (for Civ2) included a WW3 scenario (with loads on new units), plus one based on Isaac Asimovs "Foundation" novels. Hopefully I can start over and do them for Civ 3 !? Roll on Halloween.

Also, I used to do a lot of scenario converting from PC to Mac format in Civ2... not sure how this will work for Civ3. I presume that PC Civ3 mods/scenarios don't automatically work on Mac (maybe a *real* stupid question here !?)

Anyway, here's to lots on new Mac scenarios in the future !

Fruno

dojoboy · Sep 06, 2002, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by frunobulax
Also, I used to do a lot of scenario converting from PC to Mac format in Civ2... not sure how this will work for Civ3. I presume that PC Civ3 mods/scenarios don't automatically work on Mac

Probably not, since the two platforms are different versions re: PC 1.29f & Mac 1.21g.

gfeier · Sep 06, 2002, 02:17 PM

I am currently trying to win with each civ on Monarch level. So far, I've found the Iroquois to be the easiest to win with, especially if I can wipe out another civ early. Their special unit is really nasty early on.

dojoboy · Sep 07, 2002, 08:59 AM

Okay, I voted Egypt because I prefer religious and industrious traits above the others, science a close second. I play w/ a good many of the civs, never the same one back to back. My all-time high score was done on monarch w/ the Egyptians. Just whenever I play them, I pray I'm not starting in the jungle. War Chariots good. In jungle bad!

View Poll Results: If you had to name one, which of the Civ3 nations do you prefer playing as ?
Americans	4	11.76%
Aztecs	0	0%
Babylonians	3	8.82%
Chinese	3	8.82%
Egyptians	3	8.82%
English	1	2.94%
French	4	11.76%
Germans	1	2.94%
Greeks	1	2.94%
Indians	1	2.94%
Iroquois	2	5.88%
Japanese	4	11.76%
Persians	5	14.71%
Romans	2	5.88%
Russians	0	0%
Zulus	0	0%
Voters: 34. You may not vote on this poll

Sep 05, 2002, 03:31 AM	#1
frunobulax King Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London, England Posts: 666	Which Nation Do You Play in Civ3 ? Hail Fellow Mac Civ3'ers, as I'm just starting out in Civ3 (after 3-4 years as a Mac Civ2 addict) I'm curious to know which nations people prefer playing, particularly when they're intending to play the game in one of the following ways (a) World Domination (b) Spaceship Victory (c) UN Secretary General Victory thanks Fruno P.S. So far I've played 3 games, as the English, Indians and currently the Greeks.... it's only my 3rd week at Civ3 __________________ "At 20 years of age the will reigns, at 30 the wit, at 40 the judgment" - Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790); US author, diplomat, inventor, physicist, politician, & printer. Chronology of strategy gaming addiction: Civilization II (1998), Civ III (2002), Europa Universalis II (2002), Hearts of Iron (2003), Victoria (2003), Crusader Kings (2005), HOI 2 (2005), Doomsday (2006), Revolutions (2007), Civ IV/Warlords (2007), Armageddon (2007), Europa Universalis III / Napoleon's Ambition / In Nomine (2007), Deus Vult (2008), Rome (2008), Civ IV Beyond the Sword (2009), Civ IV Colonization (2010), EU3 Heir to the Throne (2010), Victoria 2 (2012), Civ V (2012), Hearts of Iron 3/TFH (2012/3), Crusader Kings 2 (2013) iMac 2.7GHz Intel Core i5 \| Mac OS 10.8 \| 4Gb RAM \| Radeon HD 6770M 512MB VRAM

Sep 05, 2002, 04:31 AM	#2
dojoboy Tsalagi Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tansi, USA Posts: 4,098	This is difficult, because I never play w/ just one civ. There are a couple which I rarely play, namely the Aztecs & Zulu. I believe your inquiry best suits which persoanlity trait versus which civ. I tend to play most games w/ China, Persia, Babylonians, Russia, and Egypt. The commercail trait is probably the weakest of all traits, in my opinion. The PC 1.29 patch improves this trait which would make the Romans a sweet choice for me. My choices for: (a) world domination --- a militaristic civ (b) S/S victory --- a sicence civ (c) UN victory --- a religious civ __________________ *"And now, cried Max, let the wild rumpus start!" --- Maurice Sendak (Where the Wild Things Are)* *"According to your faith, be it unto you." --- Jesus (Matthew 9:29)* GOTM66 (PTW): Green Shield GOTM39 (Civ4): Purple Shield CivRev (DS) FC -> 0302-1438-9435

Sep 05, 2002, 02:43 PM	#9
Trabpukcip Agent of Doom Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montréal, Québec, Canada Posts: 548	I beleive this kind of thread belong in the general civ3 section... but just to play the game, chinese, they are very versatile. __________________ La jeunesse emmerde le front national. -Bérurier Noir

Sep 05, 2002, 02:57 PM	#11
Sid Observer and Participant Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Christchurch, NZ Posts: 440 Images: 3	I voted 'English', because that's essentially what I am. However, I play lots of civs, depending on my mood, what history I've been reading, whether I want to set-up a win, etc. Agreed also, the UU sometimes influences my choice. Samurai are great fun, as are the Musketeers--although I'm not too keen on 'Saint Joan'. If I'm feeling pacifist, I'll sometimes go Gandhi, but end up being a warmonger when I get Elephants. This is a good thread--notice that we're all joining--because the usual suspects are all here. We're all most likely going to be each others' opponents if we ever get to 'play the world'. [Hi Nate!] Welcome frunobulax, this is a great 'little' community and I look forward to your mods when we get the Editor [Hi Nate!] __________________ If you want to judge a man's character, give him power.

Sep 05, 2002, 09:56 AM	#3
asabahi Warlord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 198	I used to play the persians, but now I have kind of like the egyptians now because of the one turn anarchy. Also the high culture right off the begining of the game helps. But those immortals are really powerfull for early wars.

Sep 05, 2002, 10:55 AM	#6
sirromdivad Opera Queen of Civ Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 70	I have this weird memory of it not being in the read-me, it was something soren or someone mentioned in a chat. Maybe? Maybe it was something else... dem

Sep 05, 2002, 11:29 AM	#7
Grey Randall Frustrated Mac Curmudgeon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tampa, Florida, USA Posts: 187	Usually play the Americans exclusively. Only because the Mongols were removed from Civ III ::sniff, pout, sit in a corner and suck thumb:: Ever since switching my SCA persona to Mongolian, I prefer Civing as the Mongols. ::still waiting on that editor so he can add /edit the civs to add the Mongols!!!::

Sep 05, 2002, 12:48 PM	#8
Pigumon Chieftain Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Nagano, Japan Posts: 84	My preference is Persia, Egypt and Japan. I like fast worker in the former 2 civs. Also, I do not like long time anarchy. But regarding to UU, immortals and samurais are so great. Samurai arrives in early Middleage, which we can build good Wonders such as Sun Tzu, SC, LW, JSB. Induction of GA at this time point makes a lot of advantage, I think. So, this time I voted Japanese.

Sep 05, 2002, 02:46 PM	#10
Shogoth Chieftain Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 71	voted persians, their uu is just great and industrious is a wonderfull trait! why did so many play americans? because most of you are americans (nothing against that)? the uu is crap,expansionist doesn't appeal to me, allthough on big/huge maps it might be usefull. the babs or egypt are great for builder games, the french i also like but the uu is useless. in our gotm i realized that the chinese are good also, especially the riders are middle age tanks and their also industrious!

Sep 05, 2002, 04:21 PM	#13
Trabpukcip Agent of Doom Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montréal, Québec, Canada Posts: 548	That's true dojoboy, but it was just a thought... I know very well that the two platform are much deferent since I starting to plan the unimaginable switch to the dark side. But I will always have a place for a mac in my bed room... __________________ La jeunesse emmerde le front national. -Bérurier Noir

Sep 06, 2002, 04:24 AM	#16
dojoboy Tsalagi Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tansi, USA Posts: 4,098	frunobulax, its great to have you w/ us. Hopefully the mac editor will be out before Halloween, and we can enjoy some of your scenerios. __________________ *"And now, cried Max, let the wild rumpus start!" --- Maurice Sendak (Where the Wild Things Are)* *"According to your faith, be it unto you." --- Jesus (Matthew 9:29)* GOTM66 (PTW): Green Shield GOTM39 (Civ4): Purple Shield CivRev (DS) FC -> 0302-1438-9435

Sep 06, 2002, 02:17 PM	#19
gfeier Prince Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In front of my Mac Posts: 596	I am currently trying to win with each civ on Monarch level. So far, I've found the Iroquois to be the easiest to win with, especially if I can wipe out another civ early. Their special unit is really nasty early on. __________________ Maybe life is just a giant Civilization game - and WE'RE the AI.

Sep 07, 2002, 08:59 AM	#20
dojoboy Tsalagi Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tansi, USA Posts: 4,098	Okay, I voted Egypt because I prefer religious and industrious traits above the others, science a close second. I play w/ a good many of the civs, never the same one back to back. My all-time high score was done on monarch w/ the Egyptians. Just whenever I play them, I pray I'm not starting in the jungle. War Chariots good. In jungle bad! __________________ *"And now, cried Max, let the wild rumpus start!" --- Maurice Sendak (Where the Wild Things Are)* *"According to your faith, be it unto you." --- Jesus (Matthew 9:29)* GOTM66 (PTW): Green Shield GOTM39 (Civ4): Purple Shield CivRev (DS) FC -> 0302-1438-9435

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