Computer Questions Not Worth Their Own Thread II - Page 150

Atticus · Nov 25, 2011, 03:29 AM

Avast! + malwarebytes' antimalware are my choice.

I thought about upgrading/building a PC. I want to keep it cheap and upgradable, and this is to what I ended up with my limited knowledge of computers:

Gonna buy:
MoBo with AM3+ slot
Athlon or Phenom 2-core processor (perhaps used)
4 GB ddr3 ram to start with

These I do already have:
power source (I think it's sufficient, but haven't checked yet)
not so good graphics card
IDE HD

Here's some questions:
1. How bad idea it is to use IDE HD? I'm probably buying SATA later, but thought about doing it only when it comes necessary.

2. MoBOs have this information on their compatible processors: "Sempron, Athlon II, Phenom II ( Maximum TDP 140 Watt )". What does this maximum TDP mean? Does it pose a relevant limit? Is 140 significant improvement to 115 watts?

3. PATA=IDE, isn't it?

Here's the MoBo I thought buying, it costs 74.90 euros here.

If there're any local people here, do you know if PC parts are any cheaper in Tallinn?

Cutlass · Nov 25, 2011, 07:30 AM

IDE HDDs are OK so long as you aren't using one so old that it will crap out on you. IIRC, the change was to improve data throughput.

TDP refers to the heat that the system can handle. Don't exceed 140 watts, and the heat should be manageable. But if you do, you risk heat damage.

shadowplay · Nov 26, 2011, 11:45 PM

I saw a computer for a sale today that had the "IBM" logo on the front of the tower. I was really miffed... I thought they got out of the home PC market over a decade ago?

Cutlass · Nov 27, 2011, 08:42 AM

New? Used? Do you know when it was built? They still make workstations. Which look like desktop PCs.

shadowplay · Nov 27, 2011, 11:01 AM

It was sold as refurbished, I don't know when it was build. It must have been a workstation... I didn't know there was a difference. It looked incredibly outdated. It reminded me of the old computers they had in elementry school in the early 90s.

This is it here actually: http://www.shopxscargo.com/product_c...%20Accessories

Cutlass · Nov 27, 2011, 03:44 PM

You need to know what's in the box, then. Old cases can be reused forever so long as they are an AT form factor. But by the looks of that, it's so obsolete that you could only really use it to run old games.

Zelig · Nov 27, 2011, 04:27 PM

Yeah, that computer is from somewhere between 2003-2005, before Lenovo acquired IBM's PC division in 2005.

Quackers · Nov 28, 2011, 01:22 PM

How much is "a lot" of Ram for a laptop?

Zelig · Nov 28, 2011, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quackers

How much is "a lot" of Ram for a laptop?

I'd say 16gb.

ParadigmShifter · Nov 28, 2011, 01:47 PM

4gig is a lot for a 32bit laptop, you can't address any more without a 64 bit OS.

Atticus · Nov 28, 2011, 02:47 PM

I think it read somewhere that 3 gb is maximum with 32-bit os.

Zelig · Nov 28, 2011, 03:42 PM

There isn't really any reason for any new laptop to run a 32-bit OS.

Michkov · Nov 29, 2011, 11:36 AM

4gig is the maximum for a 32bit OS, but graphiccard RAM counts aswell. So with 1gb card RAM you can only use 3gb of actual RAM

shadowplay · Nov 29, 2011, 01:45 PM

How much will a 5400RPM hard drive slow down an otherwise capable machine, vs. a 7200RPM hard drive?

Quackers · Nov 29, 2011, 03:36 PM

What is the best laptop (for hardware) you can get for under £1000?

NickyJ · Nov 29, 2011, 08:30 PM

Question: In Photoshop Elements 10, is there a way to mass-convert .png images into .dds images?

PlutonianEmpire · Nov 30, 2011, 01:10 AM

Are there any texture maps of Earth's night side WITHOUT city lights, that I can use for 3D programs?

IglooDude · Nov 30, 2011, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowplay

How much will a 5400RPM hard drive slow down an otherwise capable machine, vs. a 7200RPM hard drive?

In my experience, you won't notice the difference at all unless you've got them side-by-side doing drive-heavy work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quackers

What is the best laptop (for hardware) you can get for under £1000?

Depends on what you are using it for, but anyway, newegg.com has your answer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlutonianEmpire

Are there any texture maps of Earth's night side WITHOUT city lights, that I can use for 3D programs?

Why not take a daytime map and tint it?

Zelig · Nov 30, 2011, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowplay

How much will a 5400RPM hard drive slow down an otherwise capable machine, vs. a 7200RPM hard drive?

They'll both be unacceptably slow.

I haven't used anything as slow as a single 7200 rpm drive as a primary OS drive since... 2003 maybe?

cardgame · Dec 03, 2011, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zelig

They'll both be unacceptably slow.

I haven't used anything as slow as a single 7200 rpm drive as a primary OS drive since... 2003 maybe?

Do elaborate ._.

Nov 25, 2011, 03:29 AM	#2981
Atticus Horselover Fat Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2,743	Avast! + malwarebytes' antimalware are my choice. I thought about upgrading/building a PC. I want to keep it cheap and upgradable, and this is to what I ended up with my limited knowledge of computers: Gonna buy: MoBo with AM3+ slot Athlon or Phenom 2-core processor (perhaps used) 4 GB ddr3 ram to start with These I do already have: power source (I think it's sufficient, but haven't checked yet) not so good graphics card IDE HD Here's some questions: 1. How bad idea it is to use IDE HD? I'm probably buying SATA later, but thought about doing it only when it comes necessary. 2. MoBOs have this information on their compatible processors: "Sempron, Athlon II, Phenom II ( Maximum TDP 140 Watt )". What does this maximum TDP mean? Does it pose a relevant limit? Is 140 significant improvement to 115 watts? 3. PATA=IDE, isn't it? Here's the MoBo I thought buying, it costs 74.90 euros here. If there're any local people here, do you know if PC parts are any cheaper in Tallinn? __________________ Be-beep, be-beep, yeah!

Nov 25, 2011, 07:30 AM	#2982
Cutlass Ideas are Like Stars Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: US of A Posts: 32,204 Images: 6	IDE HDDs are OK so long as you aren't using one so old that it will crap out on you. IIRC, the change was to improve data throughput. TDP refers to the heat that the system can handle. Don't exceed 140 watts, and the heat should be manageable. But if you do, you risk heat damage. __________________ Ideas Are Like Stars. Come visit us again! Learn the Basics of Money HERE More Money has been Lost Because of Four Words than at the Point of a Gun. Those words are "This Time is Different." Taking from the poor and giving to the rich is Why Nations Fail In American we call that Reaganomics.

Nov 26, 2011, 11:45 PM	#2983
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Nov 27, 2011, 08:42 AM	#2984
Cutlass Ideas are Like Stars Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: US of A Posts: 32,204 Images: 6	New? Used? Do you know when it was built? They still make workstations. Which look like desktop PCs. __________________ Ideas Are Like Stars. Come visit us again! Learn the Basics of Money HERE More Money has been Lost Because of Four Words than at the Point of a Gun. Those words are "This Time is Different." Taking from the poor and giving to the rich is Why Nations Fail In American we call that Reaganomics.

Nov 27, 2011, 11:01 AM	#2985
shadowplay your ad here Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Blue Jay Way Posts: 2,677	It was sold as refurbished, I don't know when it was build. It must have been a workstation... I didn't know there was a difference. It looked incredibly outdated. It reminded me of the old computers they had in elementry school in the early 90s. This is it here actually: http://www.shopxscargo.com/product_c...%20Accessories __________________ ..I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad... Last edited by shadowplay; Nov 27, 2011 at 11:07 AM.

Nov 27, 2011, 03:44 PM	#2986
Cutlass Ideas are Like Stars Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: US of A Posts: 32,204 Images: 6	You need to know what's in the box, then. Old cases can be reused forever so long as they are an AT form factor. But by the looks of that, it's so obsolete that you could only really use it to run old games. __________________ Ideas Are Like Stars. Come visit us again! Learn the Basics of Money HERE More Money has been Lost Because of Four Words than at the Point of a Gun. Those words are "This Time is Different." Taking from the poor and giving to the rich is Why Nations Fail In American we call that Reaganomics.

Nov 27, 2011, 04:27 PM	#2987
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Nov 28, 2011, 01:22 PM	#2988
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Nov 28, 2011, 01:47 PM	#2990
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Nov 28, 2011, 02:47 PM	#2991
Atticus Horselover Fat Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2,743	I think it read somewhere that 3 gb is maximum with 32-bit os. __________________ Be-beep, be-beep, yeah!

Nov 28, 2011, 03:42 PM	#2992
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Nov 29, 2011, 11:36 AM	#2993
Michkov Prince Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 432	4gig is the maximum for a 32bit OS, but graphiccard RAM counts aswell. So with 1gb card RAM you can only use 3gb of actual RAM

Nov 29, 2011, 01:45 PM	#2994
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Nov 29, 2011, 03:36 PM	#2995
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Nov 29, 2011, 08:30 PM	#2996
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Nov 30, 2011, 01:10 AM	#2997
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