Revolution for Android?

UFDelt · Nov 08, 2009, 12:41 PM

I just got t he HTC Hero and I was wondering if there's any development for bringing this game to the Android OS. Does anyone know anything?

honus · Dec 01, 2009, 03:10 PM

I just got a DROID and would love to play some Civ during my commute!

C'mon Sid, give us Civ Rev on Android!!

ericball · Dec 02, 2009, 08:09 AM

As per one of the podcasts, the iPhone version was started as a skunkworks project, i.e. unofficial. However, if the iPhone version of CivRev is profitable then I could see Firaxis exploring an Android version. Of course, it also depends on:
1. the Android platform is powerful enough to handle the CivRev engine
2. the interface is standardized & large enough to accomodate the UI (and ideally can be ported from one of the other versions without much effort)
3. the development tools are up to the task (again, without much effort)
4. the store & packaging provides for reliable payment & prevents piracy

Padma · Dec 02, 2009, 10:53 AM

I am guessing that it will probably take another "skunkworks" type project. Although, like Eric said, if the iPhone version is sufficiently profitable, they just might do some official investigating of the possibility.

One reason I would love CivRev for the Droid is because it runs Linux as the OS -- the first step in getting Linux-Native Civ!

honus · Dec 08, 2009, 06:48 AM

I've been reading a lot about the difference between designing for iPhone and Android and it makes me think this might be less of a possibility.

iPhones all have the same size screen and there are only three different devices.

Android has so many different devices with different specs and screens that it sounds like a nightmare. But maybe they could do something specifically for devices that are powerful enough, perhaps only allow it to run on Android 2.0 or higher.

runuo psz · Dec 24, 2009, 10:36 PM

Actually, the Droid phones aren't that much harder to code for than the i<Whatever>, especially if the devs have C++ and Java experience, as well as Linux experience

They all run on the same OS, the screens all more or less handle the same resolutions (regardless of size), and the main hardware isn't that much different from unit to unit.

Hence why there are very few "works on phone A but not phone B" issues (other than OS version. IE: 1.5 vs 2.0)

CivRev for Android would most likely be no more difficult to make than the iPod/iPhone version.

Side-note: The Facebook version of Civilization that Sid and Co. are working should be able to work with any of the Droid phones without any problems.

CivGeneral · Dec 29, 2009, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Padma

One reason I would love CivRev for the Droid is because it runs Linux as the OS -- the first step in getting Linux-Native Civ!

But would it be a challenge because Android OS does not contain all of the libraries found in a regular Linux Distro.

FYI, just gotten a new phone with Android OS in it.

Padma · Dec 30, 2009, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CivGeneral

But would it be a challenge because Android OS does not contain all of the libraries found in a regular Linux Distro.

FYI, just gotten a new phone with Android OS in it.

Yes, of course, but libraries can be added when installing an app, I presume.

alfredara · Jan 05, 2010, 02:10 AM

Whats the difference between a Samsung Androiod powered phone and a HTC Android powered phone? Like ie: HTC Hero from Sprint with Android and the Samsung Moment from Sprint with Android. I thought that all Android powered phones were HTC so whats the deal?

CustodianV131 · Jan 20, 2010, 11:09 AM

I think the userbase and sales on Android are not big enough to make a version for that platform likely yet. Make the new Nexus will help with that.

EdCase · Jan 20, 2010, 02:58 PM

Sorry Custodian1V31, I disagree. Unit sales of either are only really relevant for the OSes.

Demographic of user base is significantly more important for a specific application.

Individual one is a player of PC games, question is do they buy an Apple PC (Oh yes they are

) ?

Answer: Nope, not in general, as they tend to give less power for the buck.

Did the same person buy an Ipod/Iphone..of course they did, gamers love gadgets.

Will/did many get frustrated at Apples "control issues" ?....you bet your behind.

I'm one of them..had an Iphone from the get-go. Not anymore, Android does everything worthwhile that the Iphone could AND more. I went with the HTC Hero and pleased I did.

I think OS4.0 from Apple needs to hit soon and hard or they will (as analysts predict) be playing second fiddle in 2012.

In finishing, I suspect the installed userbase as it stands contains more likely purchasers than the iphone. Android is a geeks (mobile) wetdream after all

Quaser · Apr 25, 2010, 08:17 AM

My HTC Desire is on the way. Was hoping Revolution was already available.

This is my vote for an Android version.

ladedadedum · May 29, 2010, 07:06 PM

bump for great justice (yeah even tho it's already on the first page)! civ 1 on snesoid just isn't cutting it.

thelibra · Jun 15, 2010, 01:33 PM

Seconding! Wait... how did you get civ1 for your Android? When I type in "Civilization" or "Civ" the closest thing I see in the market is that P-O-S "The Settlers" game, which, incidentally, blows.

mattigus · Jun 16, 2010, 08:46 AM

He's using a Super Nintendo emulator on the Android. He downloaded a copy of Civilization for Super Nintendo, and is playing that.

Just to let you all know, this is illegal unless you own a physical copy of the SNES version of Civilization.

ladedadedum · Jun 16, 2010, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattigus

He's using a Super Nintendo emulator on the Android. He downloaded a copy of Civilization for Super Nintendo, and is playing that.

Just to let you all know, this is illegal unless you own a physical copy of the SNES version of Civilization.

correct. in other news, yongzh is collaborating with zodttd to port a playstation emulator, so at least civ2 is around the corner.

Preytor · Jul 03, 2010, 05:59 PM

Looking at getting a HTC Legend and will need some Civ action for it!
Maybe we can find a way to put some pressure/encouragement for Fraxis (or someone) to bring Civ Rev from iPhone to Android.
Civ ROM for SNES sounds fun, but we need moar! Glad to hear about the possibility of Civ 2..

Tesuji · Jul 13, 2010, 08:18 PM

I think Sid mentioned during a presentation they're working on a Facebook version.

Since that's probably Flash based, they might just as well put it on the iDroid too. Provided Adobe finally gets Flash working on Droid of course.

strhopper · Jul 13, 2010, 10:55 PM

Flash is working! Running a custom rom(2.2) on my moto droid with flash FYI

Shurdus · Jul 28, 2010, 07:45 AM

strhopper, can you tell me what you did to get that custom rom working? I have a Samsing Galaxy Si9000 which comes with stock android 2.1, so flash does not work on that phone... Can I download a custom rom to get 2.2 to work on that phone too? What skills do I need to have to get 2.2 to work, and what risks do I take, if any?

Nov 08, 2009, 12:41 PM	#1
UFDelt Strategist Join Date: May 2003 Location: So Fla Posts: 121	Revolution for Android? I just got t he HTC Hero and I was wondering if there's any development for bringing this game to the Android OS. Does anyone know anything? __________________ The victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.

Dec 02, 2009, 10:53 AM	#4
Padma the InBond Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Omaha, Nebraska USA Posts: 13,997	I am guessing that it will probably take another "skunkworks" type project. Although, like Eric said, if the iPhone version is sufficiently profitable, they just might do some official investigating of the possibility. One reason I would love CivRev for the Droid is because it runs Linux as the OS -- the first step in getting Linux-Native Civ! __________________ 1st Lieutenant, USAF (Retired) Registered Linux User #233241 My View Ramblings of a Professional Computer Geek-- My Blogs.

Jan 05, 2010, 02:10 AM	#9
alfredara Chieftain Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1	Whats the difference between a Samsung Androiod powered phone and a HTC Android powered phone? Like ie: HTC Hero from Sprint with Android and the Samsung Moment from Sprint with Android. I thought that all Android powered phones were HTC so whats the deal? Last edited by Turner; Oct 29, 2010 at 06:54 AM.

Jan 20, 2010, 02:58 PM	#11
EdCase Defender of the Faithless Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: A world of my own creation Posts: 811	Sorry Custodian1V31, I disagree. Unit sales of either are only really relevant for the OSes. Demographic of user base is significantly more important for a specific application. Individual one is a player of PC games, question is do they buy an Apple PC (Oh yes they are ) ? Answer: Nope, not in general, as they tend to give less power for the buck. Did the same person buy an Ipod/Iphone..of course they did, gamers love gadgets. Will/did many get frustrated at Apples "control issues" ?....you bet your behind. I'm one of them..had an Iphone from the get-go. Not anymore, Android does everything worthwhile that the Iphone could AND more. I went with the HTC Hero and pleased I did. I think OS4.0 from Apple needs to hit soon and hard or they will (as analysts predict) be playing second fiddle in 2012. In finishing, I suspect the installed userbase as it stands contains more likely purchasers than the iphone. Android is a geeks (mobile) wetdream after all __________________ Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream up a god superior to themselves. Most gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child. One man's theology is another man's belly laugh. Excerpt from the notebooks of Lazarus Long, from Robert Heinlein's "Time Enough for Love"

Jun 15, 2010, 01:33 PM	#14
thelibra Future World Dictator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Somewhere, TX Posts: 319	Seconding! Wait... how did you get civ1 for your Android? When I type in "Civilization" or "Civ" the closest thing I see in the market is that P-O-S "The Settlers" game, which, incidentally, blows. __________________ -The Libra (MySpace Page) "I don't want the world, I just want your half..." - They Might Be Giants

Dec 01, 2009, 03:10 PM	#2
honus Chieftain Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 51	I just got a DROID and would love to play some Civ during my commute! C'mon Sid, give us Civ Rev on Android!!

Dec 02, 2009, 08:09 AM	#3
ericball Warlord Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Markham, Ontario Posts: 121	As per one of the podcasts, the iPhone version was started as a skunkworks project, i.e. unofficial. However, if the iPhone version of CivRev is profitable then I could see Firaxis exploring an Android version. Of course, it also depends on: 1. the Android platform is powerful enough to handle the CivRev engine 2. the interface is standardized & large enough to accomodate the UI (and ideally can be ported from one of the other versions without much effort) 3. the development tools are up to the task (again, without much effort) 4. the store & packaging provides for reliable payment & prevents piracy

Dec 08, 2009, 06:48 AM	#5
honus Chieftain Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 51	I've been reading a lot about the difference between designing for iPhone and Android and it makes me think this might be less of a possibility. iPhones all have the same size screen and there are only three different devices. Android has so many different devices with different specs and screens that it sounds like a nightmare. But maybe they could do something specifically for devices that are powerful enough, perhaps only allow it to run on Android 2.0 or higher.

Dec 24, 2009, 10:36 PM	#6
runuo psz Chieftain Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5	Actually, the Droid phones aren't that much harder to code for than the i<Whatever>, especially if the devs have C++ and Java experience, as well as Linux experience They all run on the same OS, the screens all more or less handle the same resolutions (regardless of size), and the main hardware isn't that much different from unit to unit. Hence why there are very few "works on phone A but not phone B" issues (other than OS version. IE: 1.5 vs 2.0) CivRev for Android would most likely be no more difficult to make than the iPod/iPhone version. Side-note: The Facebook version of Civilization that Sid and Co. are working should be able to work with any of the Droid phones without any problems.

Jan 20, 2010, 11:09 AM	#10
CustodianV131 Prince Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 344	I think the userbase and sales on Android are not big enough to make a version for that platform likely yet. Make the new Nexus will help with that.

Apr 25, 2010, 08:17 AM	#12
Quaser Chieftain Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Denmark Posts: 7	My HTC Desire is on the way. Was hoping Revolution was already available. This is my vote for an Android version.

May 29, 2010, 07:06 PM	#13
ladedadedum Chieftain Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 49	bump for great justice (yeah even tho it's already on the first page)! civ 1 on snesoid just isn't cutting it.

Jun 16, 2010, 08:46 AM	#15
mattigus Warlord Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 172	He's using a Super Nintendo emulator on the Android. He downloaded a copy of Civilization for Super Nintendo, and is playing that. Just to let you all know, this is illegal unless you own a physical copy of the SNES version of Civilization.

Jul 03, 2010, 05:59 PM	#17
Preytor Warlord Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 116	Looking at getting a HTC Legend and will need some Civ action for it! Maybe we can find a way to put some pressure/encouragement for Fraxis (or someone) to bring Civ Rev from iPhone to Android. Civ ROM for SNES sounds fun, but we need moar! Glad to hear about the possibility of Civ 2.. __________________ RoM FTW!

Jul 13, 2010, 08:18 PM	#18
Tesuji Warlord Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 134	I think Sid mentioned during a presentation they're working on a Facebook version. Since that's probably Flash based, they might just as well put it on the iDroid too. Provided Adobe finally gets Flash working on Droid of course.

Jul 13, 2010, 10:55 PM	#19
strhopper Okie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 395	Flash is working! Running a custom rom(2.2) on my moto droid with flash FYI __________________ Strhopper

Jul 28, 2010, 07:45 AM	#20
Shurdus Am I Napoleon? Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Settle in place Posts: 2,291	strhopper, can you tell me what you did to get that custom rom working? I have a Samsing Galaxy Si9000 which comes with stock android 2.1, so flash does not work on that phone... Can I download a custom rom to get 2.2 to work on that phone too? What skills do I need to have to get 2.2 to work, and what risks do I take, if any? __________________ I used to have a great sig. Then I took an arrow to the knee.

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