Getting above being pathetic

handstand · Oct 13, 2002, 09:18 PM

Okay I just finished a game as Xerxes of Persia. I did the race to space deal. I was more advanced then anyone else. I destroyed three civilizations. The last civilization besides me was Babylon and I was richer/more powerful/more civilized then them. My ranking score was 499. But at the end of the game whei gives your rank I was "The pathetic"

What the? I thought I had done really well in the game.

Yzman · Oct 13, 2002, 09:25 PM

Its simple. These things are what decide your score.
1. Happy citizens
2. Land area
3. Diffilculty * 2050-(current year)

So basically increase your dificulty. Its the most important thing.

CenturionV · Oct 13, 2002, 09:26 PM

score 499? sounds like a pretty weak game to me either that or you played on the easiest setting i got i think (i'm not sure) a "great" rating only after winning a game and my score was over 1800 on regent maybe you should try on some harder difficulties.

Yzman · Oct 13, 2002, 09:30 PM

My highest is 5982 on monarch. I was the hightest rating. And I'm sure he was on cheiftan.

Bamspeedy · Oct 13, 2002, 09:35 PM

Money, techs, wonders, and military don't add to your score, unfortunately. The score is only based on the # of happy and content people, specialists, and land size. And there is a bonus for finishing early. And the land size and # of happy/content people are averaged throughout the game. So if you spent alot of the early game with a small land area and low population/hapiness, you'll score lower.

You should read Sir Pleb's article 'How to Maximize your Score' in the strategy articles forum. That goes into further detail explaining Civ3's screwed up scoring system and how to maximize it ('milk' the score). I never pay attention to what the 'rank' (rank, not score) is because that doesn't take into account what map size you are playing and what victory condition you are aiming for. The victory bonus you get is not dependant on how you win, just when, and some victories like spaceship, UN, or culture are later in the game than domination or conquest for many players.

If you find you don't like Civ3's scoring system, you can always join the tournament at this site. The tournament aims for fast finishes instead of score. There are 5 divisions available for anyone from beginners to experts.

The Last Conformist · Oct 14, 2002, 04:52 AM

499 points? I've got almost as much for being clobbered by Gandhi in the Ancient Age! (On Monarch, I think.)

My top score is somethign like 5200, but I figure my present game'll beat that.

Shabbaman · Oct 14, 2002, 05:12 AM

First of all, welcome here at CFC handstand!

I've got two points concerning your posts:
1. You can score higher than that if follow all the advice you can possibly get in the war academy.
2. I think it's possible to edit the names belonging to the ranking system

If you want to compare your score to the scores of some top players, you can take a look at the hall of fame.

billindenver · Oct 14, 2002, 11:40 AM

One of my most disappointing games I played right after I downloaded the 1.29 patch. I started up a new game, and it was just going great. I was expanding like crazy, driving off other civs in wars, I'd built every single Wonder possible, and I was just having a blast.

Then I checked my histograph, and saw my score was about 200.

That was when I realized I was playing on Chieftain level rather than Monarch. I was sooo pissed.

It's pretty hard to get anything other than 'Pathetic' playing at Chieftain, even if you have a great game.

Check out the high score hall of fame thread, and compare the scores in each division (Diety thru Chieftain).
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3hof/

Evincar · Oct 14, 2002, 02:32 PM

Well, seems to me that the higher level I play, the best score I get. Best is 6400 in Emperor.

Just a hint: Firaxis rewards genocide conquest...

Supernove · Oct 14, 2002, 06:13 PM

The best score i've ever had on cheiftain is 1444, i was quite surprised. In sometime like the late 1800's or early 1900's i won with the culture win. It came out of nowhere and caught me off guard, but i couldn't argue with that score.

Tassadar · Oct 14, 2002, 06:21 PM

I dont like the current scoring system, if you genocide every A.I pretty fast you can get a very high score, like 4000 and beeing Magnificient. But if you climb up the tech tree, trade a lots with A.I, keep a good reputation and win a space race then you got only 2000 point and not so magnificient.

Chieftess · Oct 14, 2002, 07:14 PM

If it comes with any consolation (sp), I used to get in the mid-50s in chieftain games.

Yzman · Oct 14, 2002, 07:21 PM

Mid 50s? where you playing an OCC?

billindenver · Oct 15, 2002, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Last Conformist
499 points? I've got almost as much for being clobbered by Gandhi in the Ancient Age! (On Monarch, I think.)

That reminds me. My high score for some time was a Emporer game that I lost. I managed to stay alive the whole game but lost the space race (I didn't even have rocketry). It took me quite a while to beat that score on Monarch level.

My high score currently is around 2800. I definitely won't top that in my current game either, since I'm around 1700 points and it's almost 1940.

Shabbaman · Oct 18, 2002, 02:01 AM

I always thought that it was quite bizarre that the people would remember you as 'pathetic' or even 'magnificent', considering that we're talking about a guy that has lived for about 6000 years. It would be more likely that they'd talk about 'the long-lived' or 'the immortal'...

Zachriel · Oct 18, 2002, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shabbaman
I always thought that it was quite bizarre that the people would remember you as 'pathetic' or even 'magnificent', considering that we're talking about a guy that has lived for about 6000 years. It would be more likely that they'd talk about 'the long-lived' or 'the immortal'...

Actually, most of the Leaders are about 6,000 years old. Must be the free health care.

The Last Conformist · Oct 18, 2002, 11:13 AM

I've got 3363 for a SS win on Regent, and 5087 on Monarch. What level are getting around 2k at, Tassadar?

Oct 13, 2002, 09:18 PM	#1
handstand Chieftain Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1	Getting above being pathetic Okay I just finished a game as Xerxes of Persia. I did the race to space deal. I was more advanced then anyone else. I destroyed three civilizations. The last civilization besides me was Babylon and I was richer/more powerful/more civilized then them. My ranking score was 499. But at the end of the game whei gives your rank I was "The pathetic" What the? I thought I had done really well in the game.

Oct 13, 2002, 09:26 PM	#3
CenturionV Warrior Forever Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 1,993	score 499? sounds like a pretty weak game to me either that or you played on the easiest setting i got i think (i'm not sure) a "great" rating only after winning a game and my score was over 1800 on regent maybe you should try on some harder difficulties. __________________ I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies, for the hardest victory is over self. -Aristotle "Everybody gotta die sometime red" -Sgt. Barnes

Oct 13, 2002, 09:35 PM	#5
Bamspeedy Drinking with Obama Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Amish Country, Wisconsin, USA Posts: 6,627	Money, techs, wonders, and military don't add to your score, unfortunately. The score is only based on the # of happy and content people, specialists, and land size. And there is a bonus for finishing early. And the land size and # of happy/content people are averaged throughout the game. So if you spent alot of the early game with a small land area and low population/hapiness, you'll score lower. You should read Sir Pleb's article 'How to Maximize your Score' in the strategy articles forum. That goes into further detail explaining Civ3's screwed up scoring system and how to maximize it ('milk' the score). I never pay attention to what the 'rank' (rank, not score) is because that doesn't take into account what map size you are playing and what victory condition you are aiming for. The victory bonus you get is not dependant on how you win, just when, and some victories like spaceship, UN, or culture are later in the game than domination or conquest for many players. If you find you don't like Civ3's scoring system, you can always join the tournament at this site. The tournament aims for fast finishes instead of score. There are 5 divisions available for anyone from beginners to experts. __________________ Unless you are the lead cow, the view never changes!

Oct 14, 2002, 04:52 AM	#6
The Last Conformist Irresistibly Attractive Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Not on your side Posts: 27,780	499 points? I've got almost as much for being clobbered by Gandhi in the Ancient Age! (On Monarch, I think.) My top score is somethign like 5200, but I figure my present game'll beat that. __________________ Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else? CivIII stuff: Hexette (16x16 World Map), The Classic Maya Scenario, Resource gfx, Other gfx, ACW C3C

Oct 14, 2002, 05:12 AM	#7
Shabbaman rebuffing the rebels Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: the new civduelzone.com! Posts: 3,577	First of all, welcome here at CFC handstand! I've got two points concerning your posts: 1. You can score higher than that if follow all the advice you can possibly get in the war academy. 2. I think it's possible to edit the names belonging to the ranking system If you want to compare your score to the scores of some top players, you can take a look at the hall of fame. __________________ "Our words are backed with NUCLEAR WEAPONS!"

Oct 13, 2002, 09:25 PM	#2
Yzman Emperor Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 1,767	Its simple. These things are what decide your score. 1. Happy citizens 2. Land area 3. Diffilculty * 2050-(current year) So basically increase your dificulty. Its the most important thing.

Oct 13, 2002, 09:30 PM	#4
Yzman Emperor Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 1,767	My highest is 5982 on monarch. I was the hightest rating. And I'm sure he was on cheiftan.

Oct 14, 2002, 11:40 AM	#8
billindenver King Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 617	One of my most disappointing games I played right after I downloaded the 1.29 patch. I started up a new game, and it was just going great. I was expanding like crazy, driving off other civs in wars, I'd built every single Wonder possible, and I was just having a blast. Then I checked my histograph, and saw my score was about 200. That was when I realized I was playing on Chieftain level rather than Monarch. I was sooo pissed. It's pretty hard to get anything other than 'Pathetic' playing at Chieftain, even if you have a great game. Check out the high score hall of fame thread, and compare the scores in each division (Diety thru Chieftain). http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3hof/

Oct 14, 2002, 02:32 PM	#9
Evincar Iron works is a legend!! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Guadalajara, Spain Posts: 661	Well, seems to me that the higher level I play, the best score I get. Best is 6400 in Emperor. Just a hint: Firaxis rewards genocide conquest...

Oct 14, 2002, 06:13 PM	#10
Supernove Chief Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 49	The best score i've ever had on cheiftain is 1444, i was quite surprised. In sometime like the late 1800's or early 1900's i won with the culture win. It came out of nowhere and caught me off guard, but i couldn't argue with that score.

Oct 14, 2002, 06:21 PM	#11
Tassadar Master Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,171	I dont like the current scoring system, if you genocide every A.I pretty fast you can get a very high score, like 4000 and beeing Magnificient. But if you climb up the tech tree, trade a lots with A.I, keep a good reputation and win a space race then you got only 2000 point and not so magnificient. __________________ Mahatma Gandhi had once demanded, in a meeting with the British appointed Governor of India, the unconditional withdrawal of Britain’s colonial occupation. A high ranking British official who was present at the meeting retorted: “Do you expect Her Majesty’s Government just to get up and leave India.” “Yes, I do”, Gandhi replied. “One day you will just leave.” And not too many years later, that is exactly what happened.

Oct 14, 2002, 07:14 PM	#12
Chieftess Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Baltimore Posts: 23,547	If it comes with any consolation (sp), I used to get in the mid-50s in chieftain games. __________________ "Never trust an Aztec with nukes!" (Civ1 - unknown) \| 2nd user of the Ancient Style. South America (based on El Mencey's Map) \| N & S America (based on El Mencey's Map) \| C3C Scenario: 7,000 Turns Civ2 Earth for C3C \| Old Style Civ3 for C3C \| "Future is Wild" map How to upload multiple files to a post \| File Upload \| Paint Shop Pro 3.11 shareware (screenshot util - doesn't expire) \| Chieftess' Culture Flip Calc \| Don't wind up like this AI! \| resource icons file To download a patch: Select "Advanced" from the main menu, and go to "Check for Updates". \|\| My Web Journal (yes, it's a "blog") Last edited by Chieftess; Oct 14, 2002 at 07:17 PM.

Oct 14, 2002, 07:21 PM	#13
Yzman Emperor Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 1,767	Mid 50s? where you playing an OCC?

Oct 18, 2002, 02:01 AM	#15
Shabbaman rebuffing the rebels Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: the new civduelzone.com! Posts: 3,577	I always thought that it was quite bizarre that the people would remember you as 'pathetic' or even 'magnificent', considering that we're talking about a guy that has lived for about 6000 years. It would be more likely that they'd talk about 'the long-lived' or 'the immortal'... __________________ "Our words are backed with NUCLEAR WEAPONS!"

Oct 18, 2002, 11:13 AM	#17
The Last Conformist Irresistibly Attractive Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Not on your side Posts: 27,780	I've got 3363 for a SS win on Regent, and 5087 on Monarch. What level are getting around 2k at, Tassadar? __________________ Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else? CivIII stuff: Hexette (16x16 World Map), The Classic Maya Scenario, Resource gfx, Other gfx, ACW C3C

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