Total Dominations....

Le Petit Prince · Oct 15, 2002, 03:29 AM

Any suggestion on players, teams, men or women who had a total domination on his sport...not talking about Gretzky, jordan or Montana, Yankees...I'm talking real domination like:

That guy named Khan in squash who never lost in what? 5-7 years of competition (? anyone on the exact number?)

the perfect Dolphins 12-0 season and won the superbowl

That guy in boxing...is nickname is Yuri he has like a 132-1...the one draw he has is because he put Vaseline on his...testicles and it was at the very beginning of his career...

col · Oct 15, 2002, 06:19 AM

Ed Moses went maybe four years without losing a race.

gr8ful wes · Oct 15, 2002, 09:11 AM

That Russian Wrestler until the recent olympics. He had a long undefeated streak.
The 70's Steelers
The 80's 49ers
The 60's Packers(I think)
The Big Red Machine
Bill Russel and the rest of the Boston Celtics(11 championships in 12-13yrs I think)
And I guess that either Montreal or Detroit have a historic run in hockey.

Le Petit Prince · Oct 16, 2002, 01:24 AM

not Detroit...Montreal have won five consecutive stanley cups with a season of something like 4 lost in 78 games...

those footballs teams were not TOTALLY dominating...i'm talking no defeat or almost none...

who is Ed Moses?

Simon Darkshade · Oct 16, 2002, 02:27 AM

The 1948 Invincibles Tour of England
The West Indian dominance of world cricket from the late 1970s to the early 1990s.
Hawthorn in the mid to late 1980s.
Essendon in 2000.
Geelong in the early 1950s.
Collingwood in the latter part of the 1920s.
Don Bradman and world cricket in the 1930s and 1940s, and to a lesser extent Garry Sobers in the 1960s.

Pillager · Oct 16, 2002, 03:06 AM

Brazil 1970 (football)
Australia 1990s (cricket)
Steven Redgrave (rowing) - 5 Olympic golds?
Liverpool late 1970s, early 1980s (football)
Manchester Utd. 1990s (football)
Stephen Hendry 1990s (snooker)
Steve Davis 1980s (snooker)

Plus some of Darkshade's comments.

col · Oct 16, 2002, 05:01 AM

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who is Ed Moses? [/B]

400m hurdler. Lifted the event to a new level.
Amazingly consistent in an event where a mistake can cost you the whole race.- - and a real sportsman with it.

MCdread · Oct 16, 2002, 05:25 AM

Real Madrid in the 50s: european champions for 5 consecutive times.
The Dream Team in Barcelona 92.
Haile Gebreselassie during the 90s.

Suppersalmon · Oct 16, 2002, 05:51 AM

Man utd in the 90's

Brazil loads of time

gr8ful wes · Oct 16, 2002, 09:02 AM

OK, Here is one
There is this canoe race in upstate New York that runs from the mouth of the Susquehanna River in Cooperstown to some point about 25 miles or so down river. The same fellow, a Canadian, has won it for the last 25 years. it is open to anyone, and canoes can hold two people. This guy even has different partners over the years and still manages to win.

gr8ful wes · Oct 16, 2002, 09:05 AM

I am no big fan, but the Yankees did have a solid run on championships until there loss to Arizona.

Le Petit Prince · Oct 17, 2002, 12:08 AM

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The same fellow, a Canadian, has won it for the last 25 years

At least someone posting a REAL domination...

Please dont post good teams...we all know them, no?

Wayne Gretzky when he was an 11 year-old pee wee player, had 290 points in a season

In his second pee wee season, He collected 300 points

at 14 his parents transfered him in a league of 20 years old boy...Still he was named rookie of the year

And finally if my memory is correct Gretzky scored something like 120 goals in a 12 games tournament when he was young (pee-wee or younger...)

col · Oct 17, 2002, 05:42 AM

How about the draughts/ chequers champion who went his whole life without losing a match. He was the only guy who could beat the best computers. Now he's dead no-one can.

He's got to be the nearest thing to perfection ever. Look him up!

His name? Marion Tinsley

JollyRoger · Oct 17, 2002, 07:54 AM

The 1977 Tampa Bay Buccaneers dominated the last two games of the season after going 0-26 during 1976 and the first 12 games of 1977.

Lance Armstrong is currently dominating cycling - I would consider any race outside of the Tour de France to not be considered a serious enough competition to count against him - the other tours are just build-ups to the Tour or anti-climatic races after the Tour and the Olympics don't test tour-cycling skills. He is dominant in the mountains & until this year, was dominant in the time trials.

I know of a spearman (forget his name) that lives on a hill in some metropolis of a small country that has not lost a combat competition in something like 5000 or 6000 years - and this includes fights against tanks.

mordhiem · Oct 17, 2002, 09:27 AM

Garry Kasparov of Azerbajan (sp?), the reinging chess World Champion, has lost only one match since becoming World Champion in 1985. That was against the IBM super computer Deep Blue Mk. II 3.5-2.5 (But only after he trounced it far worse than the scoreline of 4-2 suggests and sent the boffins running home to make improvments).

But that was against a computer so it doesn't count. Does it?

MCdread · Oct 17, 2002, 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by JollyRoger

Lance Armstrong is currently dominating cycling - I would consider any race outside of the Tour de France to not be considered a serious enough competition to count against him - the other tours are just build-ups to the Tour or anti-climatic races after the Tour and the Olympics don't test tour-cycling skills. He is dominant in the mountains & until this year, was dominant in the time trials.

Lance Armstrong is currently dominating the Tour. The cycling season in Europe starts in March and goes until October (not to mention a few other races outside Europe, mainly in Colombia) and the Tour lasts 3 weeks in July. Is your idea of cycling season a 3 weeks race? Giro d'Italia just a build-up for the Tour? Vuelta a España just an anti-climatic race after the Tour? Either you're joking or you don't know much about cycling. I find both the Giro and the Vuelta more interesting than the Tour. And to be good at stage races is not the only way to succeed on cycling. Since when are Milan-San Remo, Liège-Bastogne-Liège, or the queen of the classics, Paris-Roubaix, minor races? Or the World Championships, or the World Cup?
The Tour is the bigest and most important race in the sport, that's true, but thankfully, the sport of cycling is much more than that. Armstrong is a fantastic rider, he is the best stage racer in the world and I admire him very much, but there are other things. That's why it is not Armstrong but Zabel who tops the world ranking. In cycling everyone has his oportunity and there are many races for which the required skills are very different.

However I'll open an exception: Eddy Merckx. This man was a total dominator. 11 overall wins in the 3 major tours, 3 Giro/Tour doubles, 1 Giro/Tour/World Cup in 1 year, and most importantly, he won 1/3 of every single race he took part. This includes every Tour he did, every classic, every minor Tour or one-day-race, the worlds, the national championships, etc. 1/3!

In cycling it is this that is total domination. In fact he was so far ahead that in 1973 the Tour organizers asked him not to race that year because the race was loosing interest. He agreed and won the Giro and the Vuelta that year. Oh, and BTW, he took part in competition more than 200 days in each year. Lance Armstrong today races about 50...

Le Petit Prince · Oct 17, 2002, 12:06 PM

Sorry to disapoint you but Kasparov is no more the world Champion...Last time I read the newspaper it was Karmik...

tonberry · Oct 17, 2002, 02:39 PM

I think it was in the 30' Canada win hockey world cup with scores like 30-0, 45-3, etc...

col · Oct 17, 2002, 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by Le Petit Prince
Sorry to disapoint you but Kasparov is no more the world Champion...Last time I read the newspaper it was Karmik...

You mean Kramnik.

He's currently playing Deep Fritz which beat Deep Blue.

3-3 last I heard.

Le Petit Prince · Oct 18, 2002, 12:59 AM

Kramnik, karmik, kharlamov, Kramkrik...whatever!

Where did you see this?

Oct 15, 2002, 03:29 AM	#1
Le Petit Prince Communist Comrade Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 224	Total Dominations.... Any suggestion on players, teams, men or women who had a total domination on his sport...not talking about Gretzky, jordan or Montana, Yankees...I'm talking real domination like: That guy named Khan in squash who never lost in what? 5-7 years of competition (? anyone on the exact number?) the perfect Dolphins 12-0 season and won the superbowl That guy in boxing...is nickname is Yuri he has like a 132-1...the one draw he has is because he put Vaseline on his...testicles and it was at the very beginning of his career...

Oct 15, 2002, 06:19 AM	#2
col Old Fart Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sunny Scarborough Posts: 5,806	Ed Moses went maybe four years without losing a race. __________________ Extensive research has shown that ... ... sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

Oct 16, 2002, 02:27 AM	#5
Simon Darkshade Mysterious City of Gold Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Daisy Hill Puppy Farm Posts: 10,275	The 1948 Invincibles Tour of England The West Indian dominance of world cricket from the late 1970s to the early 1990s. Hawthorn in the mid to late 1980s. Essendon in 2000. Geelong in the early 1950s. Collingwood in the latter part of the 1920s. Don Bradman and world cricket in the 1930s and 1940s, and to a lesser extent Garry Sobers in the 1960s. __________________ The lunatic storm blows again. The sun is lost, lost, lost forever in the boiling purple spaceman mechanical talking-insect sky. I was like a 13 year old girl, and the jets were like Leif Garrett.

Oct 16, 2002, 03:06 AM	#6
Pillager League of Empire Loyalist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Mother Country Posts: 3,699	Brazil 1970 (football) Australia 1990s (cricket) Steven Redgrave (rowing) - 5 Olympic golds? Liverpool late 1970s, early 1980s (football) Manchester Utd. 1990s (football) Stephen Hendry 1990s (snooker) Steve Davis 1980s (snooker) Plus some of Darkshade's comments. __________________ Honi soit qui mal y pense. Sauf si c'est moi. "Too often today people are ready to tell us 'This is not possible, that is not possible'. I say, whatever the true interest of our country calls for is always possible. We have nothing to fear but our own doubts." - J. Enoch Powell.

Oct 16, 2002, 05:25 AM	#8
MCdread Couldn't she get drowned? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 5,324	Real Madrid in the 50s: european champions for 5 consecutive times. The Dream Team in Barcelona 92. Haile Gebreselassie during the 90s. __________________ "Bellum sine bello"

Oct 15, 2002, 09:11 AM	#3
gr8ful wes Deity Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: PA, USA Posts: 2,529	That Russian Wrestler until the recent olympics. He had a long undefeated streak. The 70's Steelers The 80's 49ers The 60's Packers(I think) The Big Red Machine Bill Russel and the rest of the Boston Celtics(11 championships in 12-13yrs I think) And I guess that either Montreal or Detroit have a historic run in hockey.

Oct 16, 2002, 01:24 AM	#4
Le Petit Prince Communist Comrade Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 224	not Detroit...Montreal have won five consecutive stanley cups with a season of something like 4 lost in 78 games... those footballs teams were not TOTALLY dominating...i'm talking no defeat or almost none... who is Ed Moses?

Oct 16, 2002, 05:51 AM	#9
Suppersalmon Think Safely think again Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Stand Block E row QQ Posts: 2,141	Man utd in the 90's Brazil loads of time

Oct 16, 2002, 09:02 AM	#10
gr8ful wes Deity Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: PA, USA Posts: 2,529	OK, Here is one There is this canoe race in upstate New York that runs from the mouth of the Susquehanna River in Cooperstown to some point about 25 miles or so down river. The same fellow, a Canadian, has won it for the last 25 years. it is open to anyone, and canoes can hold two people. This guy even has different partners over the years and still manages to win.

Oct 16, 2002, 09:05 AM	#11
gr8ful wes Deity Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: PA, USA Posts: 2,529	I am no big fan, but the Yankees did have a solid run on championships until there loss to Arizona.

Oct 17, 2002, 05:42 AM	#13
col Old Fart Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sunny Scarborough Posts: 5,806	How about the draughts/ chequers champion who went his whole life without losing a match. He was the only guy who could beat the best computers. Now he's dead no-one can. He's got to be the nearest thing to perfection ever. Look him up! His name? Marion Tinsley __________________ Extensive research has shown that ... ... sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

Oct 17, 2002, 07:54 AM	#14
JollyRoger _ Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 34,466	The 1977 Tampa Bay Buccaneers dominated the last two games of the season after going 0-26 during 1976 and the first 12 games of 1977. Lance Armstrong is currently dominating cycling - I would consider any race outside of the Tour de France to not be considered a serious enough competition to count against him - the other tours are just build-ups to the Tour or anti-climatic races after the Tour and the Olympics don't test tour-cycling skills. He is dominant in the mountains & until this year, was dominant in the time trials. I know of a spearman (forget his name) that lives on a hill in some metropolis of a small country that has not lost a combat competition in something like 5000 or 6000 years - and this includes fights against tanks.

Oct 17, 2002, 09:27 AM	#15
mordhiem Quantum Physicist Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 633	Garry Kasparov of Azerbajan (sp?), the reinging chess World Champion, has lost only one match since becoming World Champion in 1985. That was against the IBM super computer Deep Blue Mk. II 3.5-2.5 (But only after he trounced it far worse than the scoreline of 4-2 suggests and sent the boffins running home to make improvments). But that was against a computer so it doesn't count. Does it?

Oct 17, 2002, 12:06 PM	#17
Le Petit Prince Communist Comrade Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 224	Sorry to disapoint you but Kasparov is no more the world Champion...Last time I read the newspaper it was Karmik...

Oct 17, 2002, 02:39 PM	#18
tonberry Emperor Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Québec Posts: 1,123	I think it was in the 30' Canada win hockey world cup with scores like 30-0, 45-3, etc... __________________ Tonberries enjoy dark, shadowy places lit only by their lamps or dim natural light, and are most often found living in the depths of empty caves or ancient ruins. Though they seem to be peaceful creatures living in large, friendly societies, the presence of an outsider in their territory can make them very angry.

Oct 18, 2002, 12:59 AM	#20
Le Petit Prince Communist Comrade Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 224	Kramnik, karmik, kharlamov, Kramkrik...whatever! Where did you see this?

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