A New Dawn Beta Builds

[Makaru]

Hi All,

Has anybody else had any issues with work automation in the mid/late game. I'm at the about the tank/rifleman era and have a worker ratio of about 2.5-3 workers/city, all automated. For most of my tiles, my worker army has started laying down factories for every single tile, even for cities marked "Emphasize Gold/Food/Science".

The problem is so widespread that some of large 20-25 pop cities have no starved down to size 8-12 simply because every single non-resource tile now is a factory.

I'm away from my computer at the moment, i'll try to post some screen-shots later tonight.

Cheers,

Makaru

[IPEX-731BA5DD06]

Affosses, could you, if your so inclined, put up a torrent link similar to that which Zappara did.

Here's an example

I can't seem to get it to work with the SVN link to the page, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, I'll have to have a concerted look into its function.

This form worked previously for Rise of Mankind, don't see what the difference is function wise.

I've downloaded the Beta 2.exe file, but as I can't get net framworks 4.0 working in wine, I can't use it as yet, its yet to be implemented into wine.

[Afforess]

Originally Posted by IPEX-731BA5DD06

Affosses, could you, if your so inclined, put up a torrent link similar to that which Zappara did.

Here's an example

I can't seem to get it to work with the SVN link to the page, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, I'll have to have a concerted look into its function.

This form worked previously for Rise of Mankind, don't see what the difference is function wise.

I've downloaded the Beta 2.exe file, but as I can't get net framworks 4.0 working in wine, I can't use it as yet, its yet to be implemented into wine.

Hint: you can get the zipped files out of the installer with any decent archiving tool.

The installer is basically a standslone unzipper tool for a 7z archive inside.

[Afforess]

@everyone else I have read your posts about worker and resource bugs and will look into ASAP

[TomSawyer]

Originally Posted by Makaru

Hi All,

Has anybody else had any issues with work automation in the mid/late game. I'm at the about the tank/rifleman era and have a worker ratio of about 2.5-3 workers/city, all automated. For most of my tiles, my worker army has started laying down factories for every single tile, even for cities marked "Emphasize Gold/Food/Science".

The problem is so widespread that some of large 20-25 pop cities have no starved down to size 8-12 simply because every single non-resource tile now is a factory.

I'm away from my computer at the moment, i'll try to post some screen-shots later tonight.

Cheers,

Makaru

I tend to micromanage my workers for the first 1/2 of my game. Once however I get an army (I tend to make TONS) of workers I let them off the leash. I watched them get into a loop in which a batch would make a farm, only to have another batch come over and turn it into a cottage, followed a couple turns later by another group make it back into a farm.

[JosEPh_II]

Originally Posted by TomSawyer

I tend to micromanage my workers for the first 1/2 of my game. Once however I get an army (I tend to make TONS) of workers I let them off the leash. I watched them get into a loop in which a batch would make a farm, only to have another batch come over and turn it into a cottage, followed a couple turns later by another group make it back into a farm.

This has been around forever. It part of the core BtS AI worker code. It is also the reason I never "automate" any of my workers, ever.

JosEPh

[voltar]

Leave old improvements alone is key

[TomSawyer]

Ok digging around in the BUG and on the forums but did not find 2 options:

1) Leave old improvements alone. I can not find this tab, radio button, option. I have way to many workers to micromanage but if I can prevent them from undoing things it will help

2) Raze or abandon a city. Can this be done and if so what key or option allows you to do it?

Cheers!

[AIAndy]

Originally Posted by TomSawyer

1) Leave old improvements alone. I can not find this tab, radio button, option. I have way to many workers to micromanage but if I can prevent them from undoing things it will help

It is a vanilla option which you find in the normal Civ4 option menu.

[TomSawyer]

Ok now I feel dense. I thought BUG over-rode the basic events. I was searching all through BUG. Thanks!

[IPEX-731BA5DD06]

Abandon city is Cntl-A, you get options to sell improvements, one at a time, then abandon city, and receive workers and/or settlers depending on population of city.

Or to just raze the city (never done)

[Slarki]

Is there any changelog available?

[givy]

Hello, I'm not so sure this is an issue with the beta (I'm just guessing) but I recently installed civ 4 + both expansions and installed the 2.0 beta 2 of this mod. The normal game starts perfectly, but whenever I try to run ROM - AND the little 'launcher' background pops up for a split second, then goes away. I notice in the background after 5 minutes or so, the process terminates.

What can I do about this? On my old computer everything worked fine (I didn't have 2.0 though)

[Afforess]

Originally Posted by givy

Hello, I'm not so sure this is an issue with the beta (I'm just guessing) but I recently installed civ 4 + both expansions and installed the 2.0 beta 2 of this mod. The normal game starts perfectly, but whenever I try to run ROM - AND the little 'launcher' background pops up for a split second, then goes away. I notice in the background after 5 minutes or so, the process terminates.

What can I do about this? On my old computer everything worked fine (I didn't have 2.0 though)

Ensure you have the BTS 3.19 patch installed.

[Smikis]

any news on 2.0 beta 3? kinda holding off due workers issue, and i dont see my self controlling all of them when you have 30+ or leaving old improvements, as new ones are new and better for that reason

[IPEX-731BA5DD06]

Doh, re-read the reply properly.

Problem with Non beta's is that, the new improvements, such as shaft mine being available, don't automatically change all existing mines. You have to manually go over them all with a worker group, build another improvement that destroys the mine, then build a shaft mine.

Not some do Automatically upgrade, mainly later on in the tech tree, its just the 2nd level of upgrade, that has the waiting period, or set time. If have tech, all should be upgraded automatically.

[TomSawyer]

Ok so I made it to the end of the tech tree. Gigantic Map with 2 continents. 1 team per continent with raging barbs and spawning civs.

Ended up with quite a few civs and an overall fun game.

However I wanted to see the entire tech tree so I went for an ascension gate victory even though my space ship had launched.

As soon as the gate was complete, BAM Crash to Desktop

Still had fun but I am attaching the final save if it can help improve the mod

Cheers!

[pasja]

Hi Afforess!

I finally installed beta 2, and it works properly. It was my fault, first time i've placed AND to a wrong folder.

I can confirm the resource bug, see the attached screenshot. If you need, i can upload a savegame.

Regards,
pasja

[Koshling]

Originally Posted by pasja

Hi Afforess!

I finally installed beta 2, and it works properly. It was my fault, first time i've placed AND to a wrong folder.

I can confirm the resource bug, see the attached screenshot. If you need, i can upload a savegame.

Regards,
pasja

@Afforess - this looks like it could be a bug I fixed in C2C rev 1577, which is proabbly after you merged the DLL source.

[Terradive]

Afforess,

I rebuilt the CvGameCoreDLL.dll file. I am running a debug version of it just to see how things work. I have noticed that when a slave specialist is enabled it spits out the line
Assert Failed

File: CvCity.cpp
Line: 21474
Expression: getSpecialistUnhappiness() >= 0

I looked and played around with things, and the line is being generated by a negative value in the happiness percent value whenever a slave is selected. It does not appear that the negative value is being applied to my city. Have you seen this?