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Old Jan 17, 2010, 08:49 AM   #1901
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Now I understand your first response, you meant cracking the code. Which I have already done, according to the update. (This I will agree is a bit farfetched, but considering that FEAR has clones and everyone else has superior technology that even our own world has yet to reach. Plus, the nuclear program is not as advanced as we think it is, it is still pretty new and people are still trying to figure out how things work. Including codes and protecting them. I think we should be granted this.) Also workers were probably captured, and under extreme torture, they were forced to give up the codes.

As for your second part, it was quiet, my Special forces surrounded the building and attacked without them even knowing I was there. It wasn't until the attack started that they realized I was there. My helicopters dropped the forces a mile or so south so they would not hear the helicopters. So by the time they realized they were under attack, their were little they could do to damage the missiles.
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 08:49 AM   #1902
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Imago, why did the cost of my project incresse? It was at 6. now it is at 10. nothing has changed.
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 08:52 AM   #1903
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As FEAR said before we are going to destroy the world unless unconditional surrender is received.
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 08:52 AM   #1904
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As FEAR said before we are going to destroy the world unless unconditional surrender is received.
Not unless FEAR is destroyed first.
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 08:53 AM   #1905
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You're welcome to try. How many cities shall we exchange? Want to lose your capital? Perhaps some of California? I am willing to trade city for city. Are you?
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 08:54 AM   #1906
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Quebec believes that the DFI can make some sort of equitable peace arrangement with members of the EC that aren't batshit insane.
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 08:55 AM   #1907
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a simple locked room control center, and a SCRAM button designed to fry/delete the control programing. you can't get in without cutting the door off, leaving plenty of time for them to lift the cover on the button and destroy the data you needed to use the missiles before you can get it. heck. install the servers int he room with explosive attached, delete the hardware while they are at it.

Kozmos, your technicians were obviously world class idiots. that's the only reason I can see for the enemy getting their hands on this technology. eather that, or they have a highly ranked spy in your government.
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 09:00 AM   #1908
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Now I understand your first response, you meant cracking the code. Which I have already done, according to the update. (This I will agree is a bit farfetched, but considering that FEAR has clones and everyone else has superior technology that even our own world has yet to reach. Plus, the nuclear program is not as advanced as we think it is, it is still pretty new and people are still trying to figure out how things work. Including codes and protecting them. I think we should be granted this.) Also workers were probably captured, and under extreme torture, they were forced to give up the codes.
I suppose you can wrap uranium in TNT and call it a nuke, eh? You sure have some nice expensive 100-kilogram bombs there.
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 09:02 AM   #1909
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Kozmos, your technicians were obviously world class idiots. that's the only reason I can see for the enemy getting their hands on this technology. eather that, or they have a highly ranked spy in your government.
It was more the fact that Morocco decided to put all their nuclear weapons in one facility, placed only on the other side of the Islamic Courts from a major DFI nation, and then decided to both not defend it and to not tell the government whose territory that it was in how important it was.
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 09:06 AM   #1910
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Now I understand your first response, you meant cracking the code. Which I have already done, according to the update. (This I will agree is a bit farfetched, but considering that FEAR has clones and everyone else has superior technology that even our own world has yet to reach. Plus, the nuclear program is not as advanced as we think it is, it is still pretty new and people are still trying to figure out how things work. Including codes and protecting them. I think we should be granted this.) Also workers were probably captured, and under extreme torture, they were forced to give up the codes.

As for your second part, it was quiet, my Special forces surrounded the building and attacked without them even knowing I was there. It wasn't until the attack started that they realized I was there. My helicopters dropped the forces a mile or so south so they would not hear the helicopters. So by the time they realized they were under attack, their were little they could do to damage the missiles.

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(not to mention why they didnt sabotage the weapons themselves considering your invasion wasnt exactly quiet, letting them fall in the hands of the enemy is ridiculous beyond belief, not in the whole wacky sci-fi thing that this NES has going for but common sense)
There is nothing to figure out about how a PAL should work. It is an advanced security mechanism made to protect against unauthorized launches and to disable the device it is attached to in case of tampering. You can put it on almost anything. (but with a price tag of 50,000$ you kinda dont for obvious reasons)

Missile silos have layered levels of security. They could have just sealed themselves in the control room and sabotaged everything while you were still working on getting inside.
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 09:07 AM   #1911
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Like I said earlier, the technology is fairly new, do not expect everyone to have top notch security the first time around.
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 09:08 AM   #1912
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Bunch of fools all around. Must Putin do everything in this alliance?

At any rate, our current situation is that while you may or may not have working nukes we are perfectly capable of building our own. And we are willing to use it. So if you persist in this war of aggression against our peaceful people then we will not hesist to enter into a nuclear exchange with you. So you hit Valdivostock? Fine we will hit Montreal or Kula Lumpur. You strike Putingrad we hit Saigon or Salt Lake City. And so forth. Until you have launched all your nuclear weapons and we have launched all of ours.

Therefore we suggest that you withdraw from our territory in due haste and that of our allies lest we choose to engulf your cities in nuclear fire.

20 cities is an acceptable loss for us. A very moderate loss really. But are you willing to lose 20 cities?
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 09:09 AM   #1913
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You withdraw, we withdraw. Simple.

Also, it would take you a couple of months to get your missiles ready. We are prepared to launch as soon as the new years rolls around.
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 09:13 AM   #1914
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You withdraw, we withdraw. Simple.

Also, it would take you a couple of months to get your missiles ready. We are prepared to launch as soon as the new years rolls around.
Withdraw from what? It is you who are in our land, Indonesia is still under occupation by ASEAN forces. It is Alaska in the Amur region. Do you see FEAR in North America?

Do not attempt to dress up your war of aggression as some sort of altruism.

So? We lose 20 cities. No loss. You'll still be hit. It'll be worth it.
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 09:13 AM   #1915
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It was more the fact that Morocco decided to put all their nuclear weapons in one facility, placed only on the other side of the Islamic Courts from a major DFI nation, and then decided to both not defend it and to not tell the government whose territory that it was in how important it was.
and you divert, at one of the most interesting of places. I was referring to how they got the facility intact, when simple and common sense precautions could have rendered the missiles inert and useless.
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 09:14 AM   #1916
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a simple locked room control center, and a SCRAM button designed to fry/delete the control programing. you can't get in without cutting the door off, leaving plenty of time for them to lift the cover on the button and destroy the data you needed to use the missiles before you can get it. heck. install the servers int he room with explosive attached, delete the hardware while they are at it.

Kozmos, your technicians were obviously world class idiots. that's the only reason I can see for the enemy getting their hands on this technology. eather that, or they have a highly ranked spy in your government.
That too. They could have even simply flashed the navigation system and you couldnt even use the ICBMs. Writing a a guidance program isnt something you can squeeze in before the lunch break.

The only reason I see that everything went on a highway to hell for us because Imago wanted to created a 'fair' and 'balanced' result for everyone.
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 09:16 AM   #1917
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Withdraw from what? It is you who are in our land, Indonesia is still under occupation by ASEAN forces. It is Alaska in the Amur region. Do you see FEAR in North America?

Do not attempt to dress up your war of aggression as some sort of altruism.

So? We lose 20 cities. No loss. You'll still be hit. It'll be worth it.
China? Brazil? Lima Federation? The list goes on.

If we launch 5 of our missiles at FEAR, that eliminates 75% of your population. The only people that would survive such a massacre would be those in the hard to reach places such as Siberia.
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 09:20 AM   #1918
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China? Brazil? Lima Federation? The list goes on.

If we launch 5 of our missiles at FEAR, that eliminates 75% of your population. The only people that would survive such a massacre would be those in the hard to reach places such as Siberia.

OOC: that is the single most unrealistic statement I have seen in this Nes.
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Old Jan 17, 2010, 09:20 AM   #1919
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If we launch 5 of our missiles at FEAR, that eliminates 75% of your population.
Do some proper math
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A nuclear detonation would kill millions in a capitol city and since not many of its people live in Siberia, a series of detonations along the southern corridor would get the job done.
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