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Warlord
Join Date: Mar 2011
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For the ones who have orgasms with spanish, there really exists a spanish language? then whats the difference between spanish and catalan or castelhano? not to mention that galician-speakers are more portuguese in vocabulary and sound. this is one of the things that makes me think a bit...because there isnt a british language not even a uk language, right?
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#102 |
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King of myself
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There is no such thing as a spanish language, OFC ( in the same way there is no italian language ). What people normally call spanish it is actually castilian ...
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#103 |
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Warlord
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Antwerpen
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One has to thank Spanish colonialism and the habit of many Castilianophones there naming it Spanish (because they got their language from there, roughly speaking).
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#104 |
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King of myself
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But in the end, the name of the language IS castilian and it was already called that way before most of the countries of the map that call it spanish had a single person there speaking that language
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According to Wikipedia, there are two names given to the Spanish language: Spanish (español) and Castilian (castellano).
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If everyone calls it Spanish, it's futile trying to even try to correct it. The ones who need to adapt are those who still get pissy if one calls it Spanish rather than Castilian. Spoiler:
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#106 |
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Warlord
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Antwerpen
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People are dumb, that's why they have to allow dumb names.
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Brewer of Oatmeal Stout
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: PDX
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To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson. Beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy- Benjamin Franklin All we need is a 10 and a 5, keys to a car and a sober to drive, B, double E, double R, U, N. BEERRUN BEERRUN! |
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King of myself
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... the rest of the country ,especially the more autonomic areas ( Euskadi, Galicia, Catalonia ....) calls it castilian and nothing more ), why would I?Spoiler:
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), and thus we can have Spanish being a synonym for Castilian, even if they don't do so. Not to mention that if even in Madrid some people call Castilian, Spanish, then what's the issue? Even them are divided in what to call it, why should we care?As for the Holland example, I know that in the map it comes Netherlands, it's just that we both know that almost everyone calls them Holland. Just as in the Spanish case, it's technically wrong, but who cares? When we're talking about linguistics, I find it hard to believe that the majority can be wrong - it's not that most people don't know how to speak it, it's the language that needs to evolve (to put it differently, if most people call Castilian Spanish, then Spanish is also right.) Even the dictionary says it's the same, why bother? Spoiler:
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#110 |
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Warlord
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Antwerpen
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Ah well, Flanders is named Flanders officially, while Southern Netherlands would be more accurate. Still, if anyone would say 'Southern Netherlands' today they'd frown (also because people don't know much about their Heimat nor its history).
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#111 |
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Warlord
Join Date: Mar 2011
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is weird to see how foreign people makes huge mistakes by using spain to everything that is castillan, or even portuguese, in the civ 4 game in the portuguese profile, theres written that portugal came independence from spain when in that time not even isabella (the first leader of spain) was born lololol
people makes huge confusions between spain and hispania, the same happens with language....well some people say "who cares", and i say "well is always good knowing something instead of lack of knowledge" |
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Chieftain
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Northern NY
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I speak the one yous call Mohawk language. Man was I ever surprised when I first started playing it to hear my first language being spoken lol Twas like a dream come true! And too, I think im the only Mohawk who plays this game
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#113 |
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Deity
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native american then? Can you do the transcripts?
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#114 |
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I am happy as cloud.
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Chieftain
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Northern NY
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I would love to do that but...I don't know where to find the list. You know where I could find them?
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Chieftain
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Northern NY
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Is that your name...happy as cloud?
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King of myself
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@Hilo
Go to (...)\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Assets\Sounds\Units and open the files started with "NativeAmerica" with Windows Media Player or equivalent ( there are 20 wav files of those ). Then you translate them and post it in here
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#118 |
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Chieftain
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Northern NY
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Ok I got it, thanks for the help man! I appreciate it.
Ok so here it goes... NativeAmericaOrder-0...tsi nisa'nikonhrò:ten - what your thoughts are NativeAmericaOrder-1...ia'sewahtén:ti - you(3 or more) all start the journey NativeAmericaOrder-2...(I cannot make out what he is saying in this one) NativeAmericaOrder-3...kwah ó:nen'k - right now NativeAmericaOrder-4...iah thé: tekarì:wa - it is no biggie NativeAmericaOrder-5...tsi tahsatá:ti tsi káhson - as you spoke it was done NativeAmericaOrder-6...kwah í:ken tsi ioiánere - that it real good NativeAmericaOrder-7...ok nà:'a tho wa'ákwe - we(3 or more excluding you) are already going there NativeAmericaOrder-8...hao' ki' tewahtén:ti - let's go(3 or more of us) NativeAmericaOrder-9...skén:nen sanonhtonniónhek tsi wa'tiakwarihwáhsnie'ne - think peacefully as we(3 or more excluding you) assisted NativeAmericaSelect-...ó:nen ki' wa'katatià:thewe - I've now arrived NativeAmericaSelect-...ó:nen ki' wakatateweiennentà:'on - I am already ready NativeAmericaSelect-...takhró:ri oh nenkaié:ren - tell me how it will be done NativeAmericaSelect-...kwah ki' ne'k wakehrhá:re - I'm just waiting NativeAmericaSelect-...hao' ki' wakatateweiennentà:'on - ok I'm ready NativeAmericaSelect-...hátskwi oh nenkaié:ren? - well how will it be done? NativeAmericaSelect-...hen - yes NativeAmericaSelect-...serihwahní:rat oh nenkaié:ren - confirm how it will be done NativeAmericaSelect-...oh nahò:ten tesatehontsó:ni? - what do you want? NativeAmericaSelect-...akwé: ki' wa'tiakwatóhetste - we(3 or more excluding you) all passed it I know the English definitions are plain.lol But they still work |
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#119 |
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Prince
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Israel
Posts: 329
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I found some Akkadian translations!
OK, so I found this site: http://www.premiumwanadoo.com/cuneif...ary/search.php
In this dictionary you can write English transcription and translate it. I listened to the Akkadian sentences, and got a few. The accent is similiar to Hebrew, so I could somehow understand: BabylonOrder-000: It is probably "Kima Teresh". Well, Kima has a few meanings: 1. when after , if , like , as 2. when 3. [Trade] how much ? So it is probably "what to do" or something like that. BabylonOrder-002: It sounds like "Anna". I didn't find it, but I found "Ana", and it means: to, for, in order to. So it is probably "(where) to?", or "(what) for?", or things like that, maybe in some kind of an ancient slang. BabylonOrder-004: It sounds like "Balu umma rush-tishu". I found Balu. It means: without ; without permission of s.o., without knowledge of s.o. ; conj + subj. : without doing sth., without having done sth. I also found Uma, which means Now. I couln't understand the rest. BabylonOrder-005: It sounds like "Gamra qipshu". Gamra means: complete, total ; final, ultimate I found Qiptu, not Qipshu. Qiptu means: trust ; belief, credence ; appointment ; loan, credit ; ana qīpti nadānu to sell on credit ; bēl qīpti creditor So it is very clear. It means probably full commitment, complete belief... BabylonSelect-005: It is "Minu ṭemu" Minu means: 1. mīnu : no , not 2. mīnu : what? 3. mīnu : no , negative answer ṭemu means: 1. ṭēmu : [Moral life] 1) (fore)thought , plan(ning) , design / aim / dessein / decision / purpose (of gods) 2. ṭêmu : [Moral life → Duty] G : to look after (a person) , to take care of , to keep under careful scrutiny , to watch / protect ; N : : (meaning unclear) ; So I guess it means: "What's the plan?" or "What's the decision?" BabylonSelect-006: "Minu" It is probably a question: "What?" And that's all I could understand. Last edited by Absolution; Jun 10, 2012 at 03:34 PM. |
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#120 |
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Deity
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nice work, and necromancy
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