R.E.D. modpack

N19h7m4r3 · Jul 12, 2013

Unfortunately I keep crashing to desktop when trying to use the mod. I start a game and just as it might finishing loading, it crashes.

I'm running on a 15" Retina Macbook Pro, can't say I have issues with any other mods. just this one sadly.

Raptor Llama · Jul 12, 2013

Gedemon said:
My last game was on that map, with R.E.D v.27 and a lots of other mods, no problem at all.

let's try to find differences:
I7 860, 8GB RAM, ATI 5970, very old drivers, DX.11, and see attachment for video options...

I have the same settings, with the exception of the Anti Aliasing being x4 vs x2, 1920x1080 vs yours (also my resolution has a 60Hz refresh rate next to it), and GPU Texture Decode on instead of off. Funny I didn't even see the texture decode thing before. I'm going to trying running it with texture decode off.

EDIT: I don't want to speak too soon, as sometimes it looks fine at first then screws up later, but an initial run with decode off is showing no problems. I think that might be it.

EDIT 2: Played a turn or two, still good. Almost completely sure Texture Decode was the issue. Thanks for posting your settings, I think it's all figured out now.

Xink · Jul 13, 2013

Thanks ever so much for the quick update to build 27. Now I have the expansion I will test this out

Just FYI I am tring out the revised CivWillard mod for BNW and found that this mod, when used with it, will cause an immediate crash, I reported it here (post #7)....

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=12600388#post12600388

Thanks again for your work

Gedemon · Jul 13, 2013

Raptor Llama said:
I have the same settings, with the exception of the Anti Aliasing being x4 vs x2, 1920x1080 vs yours (also my resolution has a 60Hz refresh rate next to it), and GPU Texture Decode on instead of off. Funny I didn't even see the texture decode thing before. I'm going to trying running it with texture decode off.

EDIT: I don't want to speak too soon, as sometimes it looks fine at first then screws up later, but an initial run with decode off is showing no problems. I think that might be it.

EDIT 2: Played a turn or two, still good. Almost completely sure Texture Decode was the issue. Thanks for posting your settings, I think it's all figured out now.

Thanks for the report !

Xink said:
Thanks ever so much for the quick update to build 27. Now I have the expansion I will test this out

Just FYI I am tring out the revised CivWillard mod for BNW and found that this mod, when used with it, will cause an immediate crash, I reported it here (post #7)....

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=12600388#post12600388

Thanks again for your work

Strange, none of the mod you're using should make the game crash at this point of the initialization.

Xink · Jul 13, 2013

mmm I would not have thought so either, but I'm kinda clueless, unlike yourself, to understand these things.

Each time though when both of the two mods are enabled that crash occurs at that point of configuring the game data.

Not sure if it matters but I'll clear out the cache and the ModUserData folder and try again

Yup - just the two mods enabled and the same type of hard crash at the same place.

....the above shows that the two combination work fine except for the CivWillard and this R.E.D modpack as it will cause the hard crash when configuring the game data.

Cesaric · Jul 13, 2013

Is there a way to enable only the rescale part of the mod? i dont want the ethnic one. Maybe a older version? If so, where can i find?

Gedemon · Jul 13, 2013

Cesaric said:
Is there a way to enable only the rescale part of the mod? i dont want the ethnic one. Maybe a older version? If so, where can i find?

Keep only the 0-DefaultUnits.sql and 7-Compatibility.sql files in the "\Documents\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 5\MODS\R.E.D. Modpack (v 27)\SQL" folder, delete all the others.

flamming_python · Jul 13, 2013

Hey Gedemon so are you going to give China, Mongolia, Huns & Songhai the MiG-29 then?

cleaner · Jul 13, 2013

Gedemon said:
Keep only the 0-DefaultUnits.sql and 7-Compatibility.sql files in the "\Documents\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 5\MODS\R.E.D. Modpack (v 27)\SQL" folder, delete all the others.

What if I only wanted the ethnic diversity, but not the rescaling? Is that possible?
Thanks in advance.

Gedemon · Jul 13, 2013

flamming_python said:
Hey Gedemon so are you going to give China, Mongolia, Huns & Songhai the MiG-29 then?

There is no "generic" version of the Mig-29 yet. Maybe if I find the team to make a team-colored skin.

cleaner said:
What if I only wanted the ethnic diversity, but not the rescaling? Is that possible?
Thanks in advance.

Yep, wait for Nutty version.

TheLohoped · Jul 13, 2013

I only started playing BNW a few hours ago and I noticed that now some units change their appearance not only at Industrial era but at Renaissance era too (cargo ships definatelly does). Maybe that can be used for additional diversity? For example you can give Rome Danrell's alt.hisory roman knight for Medieval era and Nutty's italian knight for Renaissance and later. That would be a nice addition showcasing Roman Civ's switch from Rome to Italy much better.

Gedemon · Jul 13, 2013

AFAIK we have to chose between ethnic diversity and era diversity. But I've not tried to mix the tags since the last patch, so maybe it was changed... That's something I miss from civ4 R.E.D.

N19h7m4r3 · Jul 13, 2013

Just noticed Roman spearmen are invisible. Rather odd.

Merlyn · Jul 13, 2013

Estimated timeframe to get the mod posted here? I don't use steam download, since the hacks for the mac are really wonky in that direction...

Gedemon · Jul 13, 2013

during next week of all goes well.

Xink · Jul 14, 2013

Gedemon, just to keep you informed....

I do not know why it now works as all that I did was to download the CivWillard mod again and then tried to load it and I was amazed that the combination loaded and did not crash. I would like to say that the first time that I downloaded it the file might have been corrupt but I did check it out with Winrar and it tested fine. So why it works now I do not know, considering how it hard crashed each and every time previously.

Thanks again for your speedy work in getting the RED modpack to work with BNW.

Not seen it myself, but not met the Romans in my game, but is their spear man invisible, as posted above...?

EDIT: Figured out the crashing - if I launch the game through the Direct X 11 shortcut it will crash with the combination of the two mods. If I launch the game normally and then select the Direct X 11 version it will not crash. Why this should happen I do not know. :crazyeye:

Gedemon · Jul 14, 2013

N19h7m4r3 said:
Just noticed Roman spearmen are invisible. Rather odd.

Visible here.

What other mods are you using ?
Can you see Japanese archers ?

TheLohoped · Jul 15, 2013

Looks like Russia still has default helicopter in the last version.

Dasta · Jul 15, 2013

TheLohoped said:
Looks like Russia still has default helicopter in the last version.

Yeah, I noticed that too.

If you look back a few pages, Gedemon mentioned that he changed his mind at the last minute and forgot to change the version update log. He also posted a little how-to if you want to manually change the helicopter.

Gedemon · Jul 16, 2013

yep, I'll keep the Mi-24 until we get a Mi-28...

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