Power of the Pope

Naval Freak · Dec 30, 2002, 03:20 PM

Do you guys build cathedrals in your cities? [hope so]
What about temples,Sistine Chaple, Shakespeare's Theater, etc.?
Post it here

yes, i know that u need a temple to build cathedrals.

Bamspeedy · Dec 30, 2002, 03:34 PM

Shakesphere's isn't really worth it except maybe on a tiny map or you are building it just for the culture, because it only adds hapiness to 1 city.

Colleseums are expensive, and not a high priority to me. I will build them if I have the time and nothing better to build.

Oracle expires too quickly. Cure for Cancer comes too late. Hanging Gardens is nice. JS Bach is great. Sistine chapel is awesome if you build cathedrals.

If I'm using ICS (small cities) I don't build many temples, and not really worried about hapiness if I can get luxuries. So with ICS, sistine is worthless to me, but JS Bachs is aweome.
If using OCP (bigger cities), I build temples, cathedrals and try to get Sistine. Build marketplaces regardless of city placement style.

warpstorm · Dec 30, 2002, 05:21 PM

I build as many as I can afford even if they aren't needed for happiness. I usually win by culture.

Sim_One · Dec 30, 2002, 05:26 PM

Coliseums are low priority for me especially if I am religious and can get cheaper cathedrals.
Oracle is pretty much useless as it was, so I modded it to never expire.
Shakespeare is good for that city near floodplains and wheats.
Sistine Chapel is one of the best wonders in the game, especially for religious civs.
Cure of cancer comes too late and its effects too miniscule.
Universal Sufferage is useful for warmongers in war-wearisome governments.
Bach is a must-have.
Hanging garden is nice, but I always get a nasty surprise when it expires.

hbdragon88 · Dec 30, 2002, 05:33 PM

Build all.

Shakespare is less of a priority than Sistine or JS Bach's. I built all three at the same time, and if I don't get one of them, I juggle around to switch off.

Temples are vital; I'll rush them, especially when settling on an AI covered island. Eventually they'll all flip, and I'll rake in taking over the whole island. Marketplaces are also good too, but they are less of a priority than culture improvements.

sabo · Dec 30, 2002, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bamspeedy
Shakesphere's isn't really worth it except maybe on a tiny map or you are building it just for the culture, because it only adds hapiness to 1 city.

Colleseums are expensive, and not a high priority to me. I will build them if I have the time and nothing better to build.

Oracle expires too quickly. Cure for Cancer comes too late. Hanging Gardens is nice. JS Bach is great. Sistine chapel is awesome if you build cathedrals.

If I'm using ICS (small cities) I don't build many temples, and not really worried about hapiness if I can get luxuries. So with ICS, sistine is worthless to me, but JS Bachs is aweome.
If using OCP (bigger cities), I build temples, cathedrals and try to get Sistine. Build marketplaces regardless of city placement style.

I think me and bamspeedy play the same way

Shakespeare ?? not worth the trouble I've never built it

colleseums?? they are expensive and I build them after the city goes beyond 12 when there is nothing else to build just for the happy faces

Oracle??? I've built it once and never again,

I will build temples, cathedrals, sistine, and bachs if I can.

DaveMcW · Dec 30, 2002, 06:38 PM

No way, dork, they suck!

I'll take military units over happiness improvements any day. I build a temple and marketplace, then take over the world before hospitals.

Oakes · Dec 30, 2002, 09:24 PM

What is the difference between Sometimes and Yes, but not too much? I don't get it... anyways.. I build all the improvements because i'm a rep-dem guy.. and i usually get about 2 happines wonders.. i would love to get them all.

nmcul · Dec 31, 2002, 12:02 AM

I always build the city improvements required for happiness, simply because otherwise my fickle populace will go into disorder.

Aggie · Dec 31, 2002, 12:28 AM

I like to have all of them, but it's just impossible on higher levels to get all hapiness wonders...

NTJedi · Dec 31, 2002, 01:46 AM

Shakesphere's isn't really worth investing X turns of scientific research to build this wonder.
Colleseums are too expensive and only needed for the super important cities.

Oracle expires too soon making this wonder not as valuable. Cure for Cancer comes too late in the game. Hanging Gardens also expires... thus holding less value. JS Bach is worth going after if you definitely know you can get it. Sistine chapel is awesome and one of the top three.

Jeff Yu · Dec 31, 2002, 01:50 AM

I generally only build Temples and Cathedrals. Cathedrals I build only for my larger cities. Colloseums don't create as much happiness and can't be doubled anyway. I also build lots of Marketplaces, practically in every city, since they double luxury and can get me more money and are a prereq for two other useful buildings. AS for wonders, Bach and Sistine Chapel are great wonders. oracle lasts for too short of a time, Shakespeare affects only one city, Hanging Garden goes obsolete, and Cure for Cancer comes too late.

jorge_roberto · Dec 31, 2002, 06:19 AM

I always build temple. It's my first rush in conquested cities. A single improvement helps to solve unhappy and to expand the border of the city. (Avoiding culture flip)

Zachriel · Dec 31, 2002, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Naval Freak
Do you guys build cathedrals in your cities? [hope so]
What about temples,Sistine Chaple, Shakespeare's Theater, etc.?
Post it here

yes, i know that u need a temple to build cathedrals.

One doesn't live forever, only 6000 years or so (if all goes well). The world is full of suffering. It is best to try and bring some measure of happiness to the people whenever you can.

Naval Freak · Dec 31, 2002, 10:52 AM

I always build happiness, even during war.

U know, i didnt xpect this thread to be this good, seriously.

CrackedCrystal · Dec 31, 2002, 11:12 AM

I build every happiness item in the game. Rushing a temple can drastically reduce culture flips in captured cities during war. And for the same reason, I tend to build Shakespeare's Theater as well. The better overall culture helps as well. But, I do not research it myself, I buy it off another civ. Unless of course I am at least 4 tech in the lead, then I may research it myself.

hbdragon88 · Dec 31, 2002, 04:42 PM

Shakespare may be bad, but to me it's a good shield builder, a balancer. If I lose a wonder, I can transer the shields there. Though on higher levels, you probably don't want to bother...

Silverflame · Dec 31, 2002, 06:04 PM

Sirian once actually needed the Shakespeares once in one of the Epic games.
http://sirian.warpcore.org/civ3/epic7a.html

As for happiness improvements, I build all of them except colloseums, which I only build in big cities.

Buecephalus · Dec 31, 2002, 07:30 PM

I follow Dave McW: I build barracks, then marketplace then temple if I've got time. Obviously it depends on the kind of game you want to play. In my case, I play for military victories so I just need veteran troops and money. It's usually all over way before 500 b.c. so I almost never get temples in anything but my two or three main cities (the ones I let grow +6 for the production) those being my capital and one or two cities close by.

Reboot · Dec 31, 2002, 08:27 PM

I play a builder game, so I pretty much build everything! Happiness buildings are high on my priority list, one way or the other.

Even in war, I'll need to have them to check war-weariness some. (I wage short brutal wars in Democracy... I know it may be better to be Communist in wartime, but I just love the gold and tech rate!) In conquered cities, temples are built quickly too so they boost their borders real quick and decrease the chances of flipping back to their original owners.

Needless to say, my border cities get all the happiness buildings that produce huge amounts of culture for protection, or even for attempts at flipping opponent cities.

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No way, dork, they suck!	4	5.48%
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Dec 30, 2002, 03:20 PM	#1
Naval Freak Warlord Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: PA, USA Posts: 100	Power of the Pope Do you guys build cathedrals in your cities? [hope so] What about temples,Sistine Chaple, Shakespeare's Theater, etc.? Post it here yes, i know that u need a temple to build cathedrals. __________________ "-even through the shrapnel and the death, the men still could joke. One paratrooper who just got out of his burning C-47 looked up and saw his seat get a hole punched through it by some flak. "Now they give us a latrine." he said." -A Bridge Too Far

Dec 30, 2002, 03:34 PM	#2
Bamspeedy Drinking with Obama Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Amish Country, Wisconsin, USA Posts: 6,618	Shakesphere's isn't really worth it except maybe on a tiny map or you are building it just for the culture, because it only adds hapiness to 1 city. Colleseums are expensive, and not a high priority to me. I will build them if I have the time and nothing better to build. Oracle expires too quickly. Cure for Cancer comes too late. Hanging Gardens is nice. JS Bach is great. Sistine chapel is awesome if you build cathedrals. If I'm using ICS (small cities) I don't build many temples, and not really worried about hapiness if I can get luxuries. So with ICS, sistine is worthless to me, but JS Bachs is aweome. If using OCP (bigger cities), I build temples, cathedrals and try to get Sistine. Build marketplaces regardless of city placement style. __________________ Unless you are the lead cow, the view never changes!

Dec 30, 2002, 05:21 PM	#3
warpstorm Yumbo? Yumbo! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Snack Food Capital of the World Posts: 7,687	I build as many as I can afford even if they aren't needed for happiness. I usually win by culture. __________________ "Perfection is attained, not when no more can be added, but when no more can be removed." The opinions expressed herein are my own personal opinions and do not represent my employer's view in any way

Dec 30, 2002, 05:26 PM	#4
Sim_One Emperor Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,073	Coliseums are low priority for me especially if I am religious and can get cheaper cathedrals. Oracle is pretty much useless as it was, so I modded it to never expire. Shakespeare is good for that city near floodplains and wheats. Sistine Chapel is one of the best wonders in the game, especially for religious civs. Cure of cancer comes too late and its effects too miniscule. Universal Sufferage is useful for warmongers in war-wearisome governments. Bach is a must-have. Hanging garden is nice, but I always get a nasty surprise when it expires. __________________ What's worse than a cold toilet seat? A warm toilet seat. There's only one way short of magic it could have gotten warm. At first, you're almost thankful it's warm, then you start thinking...

Dec 30, 2002, 05:33 PM	#5
hbdragon88 haunted by blackness Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: somewhere Posts: 3,745	Build all. Shakespare is less of a priority than Sistine or JS Bach's. I built all three at the same time, and if I don't get one of them, I juggle around to switch off. Temples are vital; I'll rush them, especially when settling on an AI covered island. Eventually they'll all flip, and I'll rake in taking over the whole island. Marketplaces are also good too, but they are less of a priority than culture improvements.

Dec 30, 2002, 06:38 PM	#7
DaveMcW Deity Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,475 Images: 2	No way, dork, they suck! I'll take military units over happiness improvements any day. I build a temple and marketplace, then take over the world before hospitals. __________________ . Cottages! . GP Bulb Techs . Vaporize Stupid People Build at least 6 cities . Press Ctrl R to turn on resource bubbles . Build 1.5 workers per city . Check F9 Demographics often . Stay near the top in soldiers . Rush Buying Formula

Dec 30, 2002, 09:24 PM	#8
Oakes I'm "out of sync" Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chi-town Posts: 63	What is the difference between Sometimes and Yes, but not too much? I don't get it... anyways.. I build all the improvements because i'm a rep-dem guy.. and i usually get about 2 happines wonders.. i would love to get them all.

Dec 31, 2002, 12:02 AM	#9
nmcul I have missles Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 208	I always build the city improvements required for happiness, simply because otherwise my fickle populace will go into disorder.

Dec 31, 2002, 12:28 AM	#10
Aggie Deity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 6,278	I like to have all of them, but it's just impossible on higher levels to get all hapiness wonders... __________________ My CIV3 - Succession Games history Permanently(?) cured, thanks for a great time!!!

Dec 31, 2002, 01:46 AM	#11
NTJedi Chieftain Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: az Posts: 72	Shakesphere's isn't really worth investing X turns of scientific research to build this wonder. Colleseums are too expensive and only needed for the super important cities. Oracle expires too soon making this wonder not as valuable. Cure for Cancer comes too late in the game. Hanging Gardens also expires... thus holding less value. JS Bach is worth going after if you definitely know you can get it. Sistine chapel is awesome and one of the top three.

Dec 31, 2002, 01:50 AM	#12
Jeff Yu Prince Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: An American in Singapore Posts: 537	I generally only build Temples and Cathedrals. Cathedrals I build only for my larger cities. Colloseums don't create as much happiness and can't be doubled anyway. I also build lots of Marketplaces, practically in every city, since they double luxury and can get me more money and are a prereq for two other useful buildings. AS for wonders, Bach and Sistine Chapel are great wonders. oracle lasts for too short of a time, Shakespeare affects only one city, Hanging Garden goes obsolete, and Cure for Cancer comes too late.

Dec 31, 2002, 06:19 AM	#13
jorge_roberto Warlord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 122	I always build temple. It's my first rush in conquested cities. A single improvement helps to solve unhappy and to expand the border of the city. (Avoiding culture flip)

Dec 31, 2002, 10:52 AM	#15
Naval Freak Warlord Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: PA, USA Posts: 100	I always build happiness, even during war. U know, i didnt xpect this thread to be this good, seriously. __________________ "-even through the shrapnel and the death, the men still could joke. One paratrooper who just got out of his burning C-47 looked up and saw his seat get a hole punched through it by some flak. "Now they give us a latrine." he said." -A Bridge Too Far

Dec 31, 2002, 11:12 AM	#16
CrackedCrystal Where am I? Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,007	I build every happiness item in the game. Rushing a temple can drastically reduce culture flips in captured cities during war. And for the same reason, I tend to build Shakespeare's Theater as well. The better overall culture helps as well. But, I do not research it myself, I buy it off another civ. Unless of course I am at least 4 tech in the lead, then I may research it myself. __________________ A beginning is a time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct.

Dec 31, 2002, 04:42 PM	#17
hbdragon88 haunted by blackness Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: somewhere Posts: 3,745	Shakespare may be bad, but to me it's a good shield builder, a balancer. If I lose a wonder, I can transer the shields there. Though on higher levels, you probably don't want to bother...

Dec 31, 2002, 06:04 PM	#18
Silverflame OBJECTION! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On the West Coast Posts: 2,111	Sirian once actually needed the Shakespeares once in one of the Epic games. http://sirian.warpcore.org/civ3/epic7a.html As for happiness improvements, I build all of them except colloseums, which I only build in big cities.

Dec 31, 2002, 07:30 PM	#19
Buecephalus Bolo Mark XXV Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Just off Route 66, USA Posts: 216	I follow Dave McW: I build barracks, then marketplace then temple if I've got time. Obviously it depends on the kind of game you want to play. In my case, I play for military victories so I just need veteran troops and money. It's usually all over way before 500 b.c. so I almost never get temples in anything but my two or three main cities (the ones I let grow +6 for the production) those being my capital and one or two cities close by.

Dec 31, 2002, 08:27 PM	#20
Reboot Privateer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: 1.17N 103.50E Posts: 306	I play a builder game, so I pretty much build everything! Happiness buildings are high on my priority list, one way or the other. Even in war, I'll need to have them to check war-weariness some. (I wage short brutal wars in Democracy... I know it may be better to be Communist in wartime, but I just love the gold and tech rate!) In conquered cities, temples are built quickly too so they boost their borders real quick and decrease the chances of flipping back to their original owners. Needless to say, my border cities get all the happiness buildings that produce huge amounts of culture for protection, or even for attempts at flipping opponent cities. __________________ "Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared screaming defiance with the last breath to spit in Sightblinder's eye on the Last Day."

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