151 US Cities

toddyo1388 · Dec 31, 2002, 11:19 AM

This RAR contains 2 files: An excel spreadsheet of Cities and their populations AND a .txt file containing info and installation instructions.

v1.1 is the latest version (as of 12/31, 6pm Eastern)

This mod can be installed with any other mod. Just copy the city list from the Excel spreadsheet into your Civ3 .bic file or PTW .bix file under the Civilizations tab for each civilization.

Feedback is greatly appreciated. I am still working on expanding city lists for other civs also.

Edit: Removed v1.0, uploaded v1.1

Included in v1.1 - America, England, France, Germany

Tweedledum · Dec 31, 2002, 01:46 PM

I like to have as many city names as possible. having said that, 151 does look like overkill.

"All state capitals" is fine in theory, but I still think England has first claim on Dover and Lincoln...

Edit: Skimming down the list, there's a few others that may need to come out on the "prior claim" basis - Birmingham, Manchester and St.Petersburg being the most obvious. There are a few other possibles as well, although I guess that English towns like Boston and Newark have been overtaken.

Also, I need Honolulu & Hilo for my Polynesian (=combination Hawaiian/Maori) civ.

BTW, how do you get the download counter to show up...?

toddyo1388 · Dec 31, 2002, 03:34 PM

The download counter apparently showed up on its own...

As for duplicate city names between different Civs, I'm pretty sure it doesn't cause a problem. The only time I've gotten an error is when trying to name (or rename) a city to something I'm already using. I am at work right now and can't really test that, but I remember using "Birmingham" and "Dover" as names in a game where the English were using the same, and it didn't cause any problems. The only place I can think of that it might be an issue is if you capture a city with a name that's identical to one of yours, i.e. you're the Americans and you have a city called "Birmingham" and you capture a city from the English called "Birmingham". I'll have to test that one out tonight or tomorrow. If someone could test and let me know what happens, that would be great!

As far as interfering with other peoples' custom civs, I don't know what to say. I'm going to finish this with the standard civs from PTW (what are there, about 24 civs now?) If there are city names you are using in a custom civ, feel free to edit the list as you see fit. This is just a project I wanted to do and thought other people might enjoy it as well.

Maybe if others have the same ideas for custom civs, I could incorporate those as well.

As for 151 being overkill, I play on a custom-sized map (300x300) with 16 civs, so as I kill off other civs and take over their land, I usually end up with A LOT of cities. I don't think I've ever hit 151, but now I have a goal!!

Sir John · Jan 24, 2003, 09:54 AM

Its not possible for two citys to have the same name at once. the first one who uses the name gets it!!!

It wont create any problems since the civ will just skip that name if he finds that its taken and choose the next one on the list =D

Chieftess · Jan 25, 2003, 06:07 AM

The download counter shows if you upload via the Reply To Thread option instead of the Upload File link.

hbdragon88 · Jan 29, 2003, 05:32 PM

This is great.

I like it. I have yet to implement it but it's nice to have them handy, with stats and who controls it and all

I could contribute some cities to the Chinese part of the spreadsheet.

Michael York · Feb 12, 2003, 01:28 PM

Good! Eboracum can be Roman while York is English!!!!!

The Greeks could have something like 20 variations upon Alexandria! (In honor of all the Cities the Great renamed)

I vote for Wapakoneta as an American City!!!

Michael York · Feb 12, 2003, 01:31 PM

St. Petersburg doesn't have to be Russian. Petrograd & Lenningrad would work too.

When I was born, it was Leningrad.

You could take up collection on Generals/Admirals also.

Such as the English gaining Adm. Cunningham & Drake.

Jawz · Feb 19, 2003, 09:43 AM

I say bring on as many names as you can find... I always wind up going through all the names, and then having "new". Gets to the point where I start naming "washington woods" or "north washington"... definatley need alot of names.. but this is just my humble opinion....

Jawz

Erik Mesoy · Feb 24, 2003, 08:18 AM

Just bring out all the names you can find, and don't worry about name overlap.
And list new Great Leaders too. The Babylonians have *EIGHT*, while the militaristic civ Germany has four.

Dralor · Feb 24, 2003, 09:47 PM

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View Poll Results: How many cities should each Civ have (minimum)?
20	3	6.00%
21-30	1	2.00%
31-40	3	6.00%
41-50	6	12.00%
51-60	4	8.00%
60+	8	16.00%
As many as ToddYo can find	25	50.00%
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Dec 31, 2002, 01:46 PM	#2
Tweedledum Prince Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 456	I like to have as many city names as possible. having said that, 151 does look like overkill. "All state capitals" is fine in theory, but I still think England has first claim on Dover and Lincoln... Edit: Skimming down the list, there's a few others that may need to come out on the "prior claim" basis - Birmingham, Manchester and St.Petersburg being the most obvious. There are a few other possibles as well, although I guess that English towns like Boston and Newark have been overtaken. Also, I need Honolulu & Hilo for my Polynesian (=combination Hawaiian/Maori) civ. BTW, how do you get the download counter to show up...? Last edited by Tweedledum; Dec 31, 2002 at 01:57 PM.

Jan 24, 2003, 09:54 AM	#4
Sir John The evil one... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norway, Bodø Posts: 1,834	Its not possible for two citys to have the same name at once. the first one who uses the name gets it!!! It wont create any problems since the civ will just skip that name if he finds that its taken and choose the next one on the list =D __________________ "Falling from heaven is not as painful as surviving the impact" -Tormented Angel "Hillgiants are mostly just big. But ofcourse, that counts for quite a lot!

Jan 25, 2003, 06:07 AM	#5
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Feb 24, 2003, 08:18 AM	#10
Erik Mesoy Core Tester / Intern Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 10,954	Just bring out all the names you can find, and don't worry about name overlap. And list new Great Leaders too. The Babylonians have EIGHT, while the militaristic civ Germany has four. __________________ "What do you mean? It's common knowledge that the main population center of Norway is near Lapland and the rest are all mute." -on a somewhat bizarre result from Wolfram Alpha

Dec 31, 2002, 03:34 PM	#3
toddyo1388 Chieftain Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 2	The download counter apparently showed up on its own... As for duplicate city names between different Civs, I'm pretty sure it doesn't cause a problem. The only time I've gotten an error is when trying to name (or rename) a city to something I'm already using. I am at work right now and can't really test that, but I remember using "Birmingham" and "Dover" as names in a game where the English were using the same, and it didn't cause any problems. The only place I can think of that it might be an issue is if you capture a city with a name that's identical to one of yours, i.e. you're the Americans and you have a city called "Birmingham" and you capture a city from the English called "Birmingham". I'll have to test that one out tonight or tomorrow. If someone could test and let me know what happens, that would be great! As far as interfering with other peoples' custom civs, I don't know what to say. I'm going to finish this with the standard civs from PTW (what are there, about 24 civs now?) If there are city names you are using in a custom civ, feel free to edit the list as you see fit. This is just a project I wanted to do and thought other people might enjoy it as well. Maybe if others have the same ideas for custom civs, I could incorporate those as well. As for 151 being overkill, I play on a custom-sized map (300x300) with 16 civs, so as I kill off other civs and take over their land, I usually end up with A LOT of cities. I don't think I've ever hit 151, but now I have a goal!!

Jan 29, 2003, 05:32 PM	#6
hbdragon88 haunted by blackness Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: somewhere Posts: 3,745	This is great. I like it. I have yet to implement it but it's nice to have them handy, with stats and who controls it and all I could contribute some cities to the Chinese part of the spreadsheet.

Feb 12, 2003, 01:28 PM	#7
Michael York On Sabatical from Civ Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 484	Good! Eboracum can be Roman while York is English!!!!! The Greeks could have something like 20 variations upon Alexandria! (In honor of all the Cities the Great renamed) I vote for Wapakoneta as an American City!!!

Feb 12, 2003, 01:31 PM	#8
Michael York On Sabatical from Civ Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 484	St. Petersburg doesn't have to be Russian. Petrograd & Lenningrad would work too. When I was born, it was Leningrad. You could take up collection on Generals/Admirals also. Such as the English gaining Adm. Cunningham & Drake.

Feb 19, 2003, 09:43 AM	#9
Jawz Chieftain Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville, Oh Posts: 1	I say bring on as many names as you can find... I always wind up going through all the names, and then having "new". Gets to the point where I start naming "washington woods" or "north washington"... definatley need alot of names.. but this is just my humble opinion.... Jawz

Feb 24, 2003, 09:47 PM	#11
Dralor Chieftain Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1	Check out this site . It'll make your life much easier.

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