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How Not To Write Byzantine Pop History: an Example.
Aka The Dangers of Politically Motivated History.
In 2008, Russian Orthodox Archimandrite Tikhon, a close acquaintance of Putin, made a documentary film about the history of Byzantine Empire, in which he attempted to turn Byzantine history into political Russian nationalist propaganda. It was quite weird. Read it (in English) and roll your eyes: http://www.vizantia.info/docs/27.htm At least, it's less ridiculous then that "anti-Jihad" site I posted earlier, and criticizing it may be an interesting and intellectually rewarding thing to do, so it's not entirely worthless. The part about tender Byzantine-Slavic brotherhood, which was interrupted and sabotaged by the evil West and "pro-Western Byzantine intellectuals" is hilarious, though. I also like the image of barbaric West as opposed to Byzantium.
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My AARs, mostly of Civ4 RFC and FFH reports: Byzantium, Turkey, France, Mughals, Calabim, Doviello, Ljosalfar, Kuriorates, Svartalfar, Eu3 Marathas, Civ3 WH Indics. My FFH modmod Last edited by Lone Wolf; Jan 22, 2011 at 09:31 AM. |
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Knight of Time
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of Heat and Clockwork
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I liked his description of Venice as "the New York of the 13th century".
Best part was when he compared the lifetime of the Byzantine Empire to that of the Roman Empire, though
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How to be brilliant: Come up with something cool, then blame it on your brain. Play RFC Dawn of Civilization version 1.10 and relive the history of the world! Conquer Iberia as the Moors, dominate Asian trade as the Tamils, or resist colonization as the Kingdom of Kongo. |
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Deity
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Warlord
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Now I understand why we have so many problems in the United States. First of all, we have too many descendants of crude, ignorant, Western Europeans running around the country. Secendly, our system of government is too interested in individual rights and freedoms and our political leaders change every four years or so based upon the luck of the draw. And finally, we're just asking for trouble with this whole freedom of religion thing.
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Deity
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Sweden / France
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Apparently as a westerner I vengefully hate Byzantium and its successors for deep genetic reasons. Who knew? Now I feel bad...
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To be fair, he's basically correct in saying that Alexios Komnenos' Golden Bull later became a reason for conflicts between Venice and the ERE, and ended up being more profitable to the former. Of course, he needed to dramatize the situation and portray it as yet another part of "Western hatred of Byzantium".
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My AARs, mostly of Civ4 RFC and FFH reports: Byzantium, Turkey, France, Mughals, Calabim, Doviello, Ljosalfar, Kuriorates, Svartalfar, Eu3 Marathas, Civ3 WH Indics. My FFH modmod |
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Knight of Time
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of Heat and Clockwork
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I actually like Byzantium (as in "finding it an interesting subject of history" and not "finding it a great example we should base our current society on"). Does this mean I'm no westerner genetically?
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How to be brilliant: Come up with something cool, then blame it on your brain. Play RFC Dawn of Civilization version 1.10 and relive the history of the world! Conquer Iberia as the Moors, dominate Asian trade as the Tamils, or resist colonization as the Kingdom of Kongo. |
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Deity
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Sweden / France
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They thumbed their noses as the Pope more than once. Western Europe was rife with rumours of almost supernatural Venetian capabilities to call down misfortune on anyone tangling with them. Even the Mongol invasion could be blamed on Venice and apparently get a credulous hearing. If anything, to westerners Venice might well have been construed as too damn eastern. Probably means the Venetians were doing right by themselves at least.
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