CS expansion idea

blac · Feb 11, 2011, 06:57 PM

I noticed a lot of talk on the forums lately about CS talking over other cities. I find normally for me it doesn't last long but when it does I feel like they should be upgraded to a regular civ who trys to win the game, or at least interacts like a normal one. How this would work is all the civs you don't have included on your map would become city states, so if I didn't have England as a starting civ then there would be a city state called London. Once they take over the other city they become a full civ.

I guess the biggest flaw with this would be, what would happen to the ally of the said CS.

LegionSteve · Feb 11, 2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by blac

I noticed a lot of talk on the forums lately about CS talking over other cities. I find normally for me it doesn't last long but when it does I feel like they should be upgraded to a regular civ who trys to win the game, or at least interacts like a normal one. How this would work is all the civs you don't have included on your map would become city states, so if I didn't have England as a starting civ then there would be a city state called London. Once they take over the other city they become a full civ.

I guess the biggest flaw with this would be, what would happen to the ally of the said CS.

Spot on, both with your idea and with pointing out why at the moment it won't work. At the moment the only stable alliance you can have is with a CS. What would probably happen if your CS ally turned into a full Civilisation is that on the next turn they would denounce you, and the turn after they would declare war on you. If the diplomacy could be made to work in a vaguely sensible way, then your idea would be very interesting

Soronery · Feb 11, 2011, 07:18 PM

Eh. There are things that are in need of greater attention from the programmers in the game right now and the game doesn't seem to be getting enough attention as it is.

cccv · Feb 11, 2011, 07:28 PM

CS's don't work the same way as civs. They have their own tech path and such. I'm not sure how well it would work, given that issue.

blac · Feb 12, 2011, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cccv

CS's don't work the same way as civs. They have their own tech path and such. I'm not sure how well it would work, given that issue.

Good point, I guess maybe they would just start off in the tech tree where the highest player is, since that seems to be where they automatically go too anyways

PieceOfMind · Feb 12, 2011, 11:56 PM

Moderator Action: Moved to Ideas and Suggestions

Camikaze · Feb 13, 2011, 05:06 AM

It's an interesting concept, even if it would be pretty difficult to implement. I think it makes sense for a progression from city states to full civilizations, but there would have to be something to stop the city states from actually pursuing this goal. They aren't meant to be expansionist. So I would disagree with the OP idea in that I don't think it should be the standard way for civs to start out. It just could be something that city states could evolve into should they happen to expand.

Terrance888 · Feb 19, 2011, 06:08 PM

So minor civs try not to, but if it happens, it happens. The people ask for more blood and they expand into a full civ.

Feb 11, 2011, 06:57 PM	#1
blac Warlord Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 265	CS expansion idea I noticed a lot of talk on the forums lately about CS talking over other cities. I find normally for me it doesn't last long but when it does I feel like they should be upgraded to a regular civ who trys to win the game, or at least interacts like a normal one. How this would work is all the civs you don't have included on your map would become city states, so if I didn't have England as a starting civ then there would be a city state called London. Once they take over the other city they become a full civ. I guess the biggest flaw with this would be, what would happen to the ally of the said CS. __________________ I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones -Albert Einstein

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Feb 13, 2011, 05:06 AM	#7
Camikaze Moderator Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney Posts: 17,690	It's an interesting concept, even if it would be pretty difficult to implement. I think it makes sense for a progression from city states to full civilizations, but there would have to be something to stop the city states from actually pursuing this goal. They aren't meant to be expansionist. So I would disagree with the OP idea in that I don't think it should be the standard way for civs to start out. It just could be something that city states could evolve into should they happen to expand. __________________ Gods & Kings Introductory Guide

Feb 19, 2011, 06:08 PM	#8
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Feb 11, 2011, 07:18 PM	#3
Soronery Prince Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 340	Eh. There are things that are in need of greater attention from the programmers in the game right now and the game doesn't seem to be getting enough attention as it is.

Feb 11, 2011, 07:28 PM	#4
cccv King Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 798	CS's don't work the same way as civs. They have their own tech path and such. I'm not sure how well it would work, given that issue.

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