the day that firaxis will release a earth map WITH historical starting points

[Jim Bro]

i'm tired about those DLC's and weak scenarios that nobody plays (no hotseat of course). when is firaxis going to release a earth map once and for all? why is it so complicated?

there is a earth map (badly made btw) but it's small and the civs don't start at their historical areas so there is no point in playing it. I WANT TO PLAY HISTORICAL. I think I'm going to be back to civ4 sooner or later with all the bad diplomacy, bad AI, no scenarios, steam problems, etc. etc.

and for when the WWII scenario? no one cares about polynesia. i'm giving a year for civ5 to have a WWII scenario and a EARTH MAP WITH HISTORICAL STARTING POINTS or else i'll bury this game and play risk instead lol.

[labrynianrebel]

I agree with you, I mostly play on a real earth start map because I'm an alternate history nut, and plus conquering the earth is by far more satisfying then some random alien planet. But then again I already made one for myself which is just fine (only problem being that there are too many city-states in Italy) so I can't see how firaxis can really improve it.

[seasnake]

Originally Posted by Jim Bro

i'm tired about those DLC's and weak scenarios that nobody plays (no hotseat of course). when is firaxis going to release a earth map once and for all? why is it so complicated?

there is a earth map (badly made btw) but it's small and the civs don't start at their historical areas so there is no point in playing it. I WANT TO PLAY HISTORICAL. I think I'm going to be back to civ4 sooner or later with all the bad diplomacy, bad AI, no scenarios, steam problems, etc. etc.

and for when the WWII scenario? no one cares about polynesia. i'm giving a year for civ5 to have a WWII scenario and a EARTH MAP WITH HISTORICAL STARTING POINTS or else i'll bury this game and play risk instead lol.

Or here's a thought, play risk for your historical simulator and play civ V as a civ game?

Or look for a mod that has fixed civ starting points or a world war II campaign.

Or make your own mod.

A lot of people play the scenarios, and enjoy them. And quite a few enjoy the new civs. The Road to War was a mod created almost entirely by Dale for Civ IV and wasn't released until more than two years after the release of vanilla. Did you quit on civ IV?

[Ddude97]

Originally Posted by seasnake

Or here's a thought, play risk for your historical simulator and play civ V as a civ game?

Or look for a mod that has fixed civ starting points or a world war II campaign.

Or make your own mod.

A lot of people play the scenarios, and enjoy them. And quite a few enjoy the new civs. The Road to War was a mod created almost entirely by Dale for Civ IV and wasn't released until more than two years after the release of vanilla. Did you quit on civ IV?

1) He doesn't have access to mods, read the other thread he made
2) Its not that easy to mod beyond xml, though I do agree, he should give more time for the code to be released and the major mods to start up (like RFC )

[Jim Bro]

Originally Posted by Ddude97

1) He doesn't have access to mods, read the other thread he made
2) Its not that easy to mod beyond xml, though I do agree, he should give more time for the code to be released and the major mods to start up (like RFC )

yeah i don't have mods since i play civ5 on a mac, that's my problem. apparently they are not available for mac users, great. :P

[Louis XXIV]

I think that's an entirely different problem and probably a better complaint. Do you have access to the SDK? It's moddable yourself, no?

[JohnnyW]

Originally Posted by Jim Bro

i'm giving a year for civ5 to have a WWII scenario and a EARTH MAP WITH HISTORICAL STARTING POINTS or else i'll bury this game and play risk instead lol.

Play Paradox games instead.

[anandus]

I was just wondering: As scenario's (at least until now) go with DLC-civs, what missing Civ could be added to warrant a WW2-scenario? I'm afraid all major players are already in the game. Or does anyone have a good suggestion?

Although I wouldn't mind a scenario-DLC with 5 or 10 scenario's (including a WW2-scenario) of the same quality as the ones we've had until now

[Blitz66]

Play a historical simulator like Europa Universalis III when you want to play one.

Play a WWII simulator like Hearts of Iron III when you want to play one.

Play Civ V when you want to play a game that runs from prehistoric times to the future era.

CIv tries to be many things, but you can't have everything in one game.

I , for one, think that historical starting positions are ridiculous in Civ. Most Civs were not present in 4000 BCE so why should they have an "accurate" starting location then?

[Gedemon]

Originally Posted by Jim Bro

yeah i don't have mods since i play civ5 on a mac, that's my problem. apparently they are not available for mac users, great. :P

well, I've had report of people using YnAEMP on mac, but it may need some work, see here : http://forums.civfanatics.com/showth...c#post10326316

(and 7zip can be used to unpack the mod)

but I'm not sure that the current version of the mod is still mac compatible, du to the patch differences... still if you want to try it, PM me or post in the YnAEMP thread, I can provide older version of the mod.

[Louis XXIV]

Originally Posted by anandus

I was just wondering: As scenario's (at least until now) go with DLC-civs, what missing Civ could be added to warrant a WW2-scenario? I'm afraid all major players are already in the game. Or does anyone have a good suggestion?

Although I wouldn't mind a scenario-DLC with 5 or 10 scenario's (including a WW2-scenario) of the same quality as the ones we've had until now

Poland

Seriously, though, WWII scenarios are in every single Civ game. It's not hard to mirror one of the old ones and create it for Civ5. Otherwise, yeah, you'd have to go with a quickly conquered power like Poland, Netherlands, one of the relatively minor powers like Yugoslavia, or go with Italy.

[Sikandar]

Originally Posted by Blitz66

Play a historical simulator like Europa Universalis III when you want to play one.

Play a WWII simulator like Hearts of Iron III when you want to play one.

Play Civ V when you want to play a game that runs from prehistoric times to the future era.

CIv tries to be many things, but you can't have everything in one game.

I , for one, think that historical starting positions are ridiculous in Civ. Most Civs were not present in 4000 BCE so why should they have an "accurate" starting location then?

Or better yet lobby Paradox to make one of its games run from 3000 BC to 2000 AD.

[mihaifx]

Originally Posted by Blitz66

I , for one, think that historical starting positions are ridiculous in Civ. Most Civs were not present in 4000 BCE so why should they have an "accurate" starting location then?

Not really "ridiculous", but I agree with this.
An Earth map without a propper scenario (like the one in Rhye's and Fall of Civ mod in Civ4) doesn't make sense.

[King_Course]

I agree with this post. I bought the DLC mappack and was looking forward to playing the Mediterranean map, and to my surprise my glorious Rome was neighboured by America and Siam. Really Firaxis? I was really hoping for some historical immersiveness and then it's just another random game of Civ.

Then I restarted and chose Med-like Civs, but for some reason choosing the Civs myself turned the game into one big graphical error. So I'm not going to be playing the mappack I purchased.

[SammyKhalifa]

With standard Civ Games, all historical starts on real map does is make the game easier because you know where everything is before you start. IMHO, of course.

[labrynianrebel]

It's also a fun challenge to battle your way out of the center of a crowded Europe only to find yourself up against civilizations that have had whole continents to themselves

[JWAT44]

a big problem with wanting starting locations is that russia and one other european nation would be in a single game (europe is just too small with too many civs inside) also mongolia siam china and japan would be on top of each other. then there is also persia india and arabia trying to fit into a somewhat small area (not as tight as east asia or europe especially) and south america would be empty or filled with city states (without inca dlc).

[Torterra275]

Originally Posted by Louis XXIV

Poland

Seriously, though, WWII scenarios are in every single Civ game. It's not hard to mirror one of the old ones and create it for Civ5. Otherwise, yeah, you'd have to go with a quickly conquered power like Poland, Netherlands, one of the relatively minor powers like Yugoslavia, or go with Italy.

It wasnt in Civ4 until BTS so give it time

[Jim Bro]

well you might not agree with me but CIV4 had a WWII scenario and multiple scenarios on release date as a matter of fact and CIV5 has still not much substance after many DLCs. i would rather see good scenarios and hotseat instead of weird maps like the Bering strait and new civs after new civs.

[seasnake]

Hotseat is coming, and new civs are more fun because they can either be put into a base game OR made part of the grand campaign. I guess I'm saying I'm happy with the game I got.