The many questions-not-worth-their-own-thread question thread XVII - Page 12

madviking · Jun 29, 2011, 07:52 PM

FWIW, I know an Arab schoolmate (from the Maghreb) who is classified as African-American.

Cutlass · Jun 29, 2011, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by madviking

Would a person of mostly, if not entirely, European ancestry born and raised in South Africa qualify as an African-American if he would move to the US?

Charlize Theron does.

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Charlize Theron: Thank you! I'm delighted to be here in New York, hosting the show. I actually wasn't even born in the United States - I was born and raised in South Africa. But I live here now!

Tracy Morgan: [ standing amongst the audience ] Oh, Boo! Boo? You serious?

Charlize Theron: Yes.. Sir.. you have a question?

Tracy Morgan: No, I'm not a Sir. I'm Tracy Morgan, I'm on the show.

Charlize Theron: Oh, really?

Tracy Morgan: Yeah. I didn't have much to do this week, so I skipped the practices. You live here, but you were born in Africa?

Charlize Theron: Yes, that's right.

Tracy Morgan: Hmm.. so you're an African-American?

Charlize Theron: [ contemplating ] Wow..! I guess I am! I.. I.. I never thought of it that way..

Tracy Morgan: [ steps on stage ] Well, you better start thinking about it that way!

Charlize Theron: You're right. People always think I'm Swedish or German.. but I'm African-American, you're right!

Tracy Morgan: Yeah, we have to stick together, because this business is rough!

Charlize Theron: You're right.

Tracy Morgan: Hell, yeah, I'm right! So, I saw you in that new movie with Will Smith.

Charlize Theron: Yeah, "The Legend of Bagger Vance". It's me, and Will, and Matt Damon.

Tracy Morgan: I don't know him.

Charlize Theron: But you know Will Smith?

Tracy Morgan: Not personally.. but I hang out with DJ Jazzy Jeff's crew. You know Griffin Louie Trade? Man, that dude is hilarious! [ laughs ]

Charlize Theron: That's the guy with the iguana, right?

Tracy Morgan: Yeah, man, that lizard is crazy! [ takes out a pack of cigarettes ] You want a Newport?

Charlize Theron: [ takes out her own pack of cigarettes ] That's okay. I got my Kools.

Tracy Morgan: Mmm. When I saw you in "Bagger Vance", I knew you was African-American, man. When I heard you talking during the movie..

Charlize Theron: I was in the movie.

Tracy Morgan: So was I. I was yelling at the screen: "Let Will Smith hit the ball, man! He's like Tiger Woods!"

Charlize Theron: So, did you like the movie?

Tracy Morgan: Uh.. we didn't get to see it all. They had kicked us out because they said a little trained lizard had bit a kid in the third aisle - but I didn't have nothin' to do with that! But we all know what the real reason was.

Charlize Theron: Because you're African-American.

Tracy Morgan: Oh.. you can relate. Damn! It's about time they let a sister host this show! And you're fine, too!

Charlize Theron: Thanks, Tracy!

Tracy Morgan: [ peeks around back ] Your ass a little bony, but that's okay. Anyway, I'm gonna let y'all get on with your show - it's a big one, the election show. By the way, who you voting for?

Charlize Theron: Well, actually, because I was born in Africa, I can't vote.

Huayna Capac357 · Jun 29, 2011, 07:55 PM

IMO, he is classified incorrectly, though race is a very muddy and confusing issue, especially for those from the northern portion of Africa.

EDIT: Crosspost

Farm Boy · Jun 30, 2011, 08:38 AM

Are you talking about what you would fill in on the census, or what people would guess regarding your ancestry if they were pressed?

madviking · Jun 30, 2011, 09:13 AM

The former mostly.

Farm Boy · Jun 30, 2011, 09:15 AM

I think they are typically more interested in your genetic ancestry than your place of birth.

madviking · Jun 30, 2011, 09:18 AM

Well I'm supposing that this hypothetical individual is a multi-generation South African, e.g. Charlize Theron.

Cutlass · Jun 30, 2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Farm Boy

I think they are typically more interested in your genetic ancestry than your place of birth.

Actually, as far as the US Census is concerned, you self identify. They don't categorize you. So while Chalize couldn't call herself Black, she could call herself African.

Farm Boy · Jun 30, 2011, 12:01 PM

True enough.

Shekwan · Jun 30, 2011, 12:50 PM

Why are North East Asian countries more anti-drugs than Western European countries?

Flying Pig · Jun 30, 2011, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Shekwan

Why are North East Asian countries more anti-drugs than Western European countries?

Siberia?

But more seriously, Asian countries seem to have more of a culture of obeying tradition and discipline - they're also less keen on binge drinking and punk music. We place a very high value on individual freedom and ability to express oneself, they as a whole would rather live in peace with each other given the choice. You'd never catch Singapore starting a war 'for freedom'.

PlutonianEmpire · Jun 30, 2011, 06:43 PM

Right now, it looks as though the Minnesota state government will shut down. If it shuts down tonight, will fireworks displays be affected? If so, how?

Farm Boy · Jul 01, 2011, 04:53 PM

Fireworks shows run by, assisted by, or policed by state employees will probably not happen. Fireworks shows run on state property that is now closed will probably not happen. Local municipalities holding shows on municipal property are likely to go ahead as planned.?

AL_DA_GREAT · Jul 02, 2011, 02:30 PM

If you have trouble carrying luggage up a staircase and someone comes and helps you and only afterwards demands money should you pay? I wouldn't mind the money but I feel ripped off when they only tell me after.

Yared · Jul 02, 2011, 02:59 PM

I'd pay the person, but only an insulting amount

Ajidica · Jul 02, 2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PlutonianEmpire

Right now, it looks as though the Minnesota state government will shut down. If it shuts down tonight, will fireworks displays be affected? If so, how?

Not sure. Most fireworks are put on either by private agencies or local governments which keep operating.

SS-18 ICBM · Jul 02, 2011, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shekwan

Why are North East Asian countries more anti-drugs than Western European countries?

Maybe the state of things before the Opium Wars left a bad taste? I probably misunderstand history here, but British traders were growing rich on the suffering of Chinese addicts.

Cutlass · Jul 02, 2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AL_DA_GREAT

If you have trouble carrying luggage up a staircase and someone comes and helps you and only afterwards demands money should you pay? I wouldn't mind the money but I feel ripped off when they only tell me after.

If someone doesn't negotiate pay before service, you probably aren't obligated to pay. However, if you're in a foreign country, you may not want to make waves. Pay very little in those situations.

shadowplay · Jul 02, 2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cutlass

If someone doesn't negotiate pay before service, you probably aren't obligated to pay. However, if you're in a foreign country, you may not want to make waves. Pay very little in those situations.

Reminds me of the bell-hops in NYC.

SS-18 ICBM · Jul 03, 2011, 07:22 AM

I have this dream of someday laughing at the OPEC nations when the industrial nations of the world no longer need oil. What about you guys? What instances of geopolitical schadenfreude do you wish to partake in?

Jun 29, 2011, 07:52 PM	#221
madviking losing my edge Join Date: May 2005 Location: waking up naked on a beach in Ibiza Posts: 8,793 Images: 3	FWIW, I know an Arab schoolmate (from the Maghreb) who is classified as African-American. __________________ This marks the beginning of that very happy time when politics will recede into the background ... and engineers and agronomists will do most of the talking. - V. I. Lenin I feel sorry for people who don't drink; when they wake up in the morning that's as good as they're going to feel all day. - Frank Sinatra (+sheep, -dog) \| Join #fiftychat \| Island of the Three Legged Sicilians (18 May: Chapter 13) \| '12 NCAA Pick'em co-champion \| RIP Z.B. -- 10/11/92 - 4/18/12

Jun 29, 2011, 07:55 PM	#223
Huayna Capac357 Deity Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 8,207	IMO, he is classified incorrectly, though race is a very muddy and confusing issue, especially for those from the northern portion of Africa. EDIT: Crosspost __________________ But every time it rains You're here in my head Like the sun coming out

Jun 30, 2011, 08:38 AM	#224
Farm Boy as you wish Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Amber Waves of Grain Posts: 3,705	Are you talking about what you would fill in on the census, or what people would guess regarding your ancestry if they were pressed? __________________ “The American farmer is the only man in our economy who buys everything he buys at retail, sells everything he sells at wholesale, and pays the freight both ways.” – John F. Kennedy

Jun 30, 2011, 09:13 AM	#225
madviking losing my edge Join Date: May 2005 Location: waking up naked on a beach in Ibiza Posts: 8,793 Images: 3	The former mostly. __________________ This marks the beginning of that very happy time when politics will recede into the background ... and engineers and agronomists will do most of the talking. - V. I. Lenin I feel sorry for people who don't drink; when they wake up in the morning that's as good as they're going to feel all day. - Frank Sinatra (+sheep, -dog) \| Join #fiftychat \| Island of the Three Legged Sicilians (18 May: Chapter 13) \| '12 NCAA Pick'em co-champion \| RIP Z.B. -- 10/11/92 - 4/18/12

Jun 30, 2011, 09:15 AM	#226
Farm Boy as you wish Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Amber Waves of Grain Posts: 3,705	I think they are typically more interested in your genetic ancestry than your place of birth. __________________ “The American farmer is the only man in our economy who buys everything he buys at retail, sells everything he sells at wholesale, and pays the freight both ways.” – John F. Kennedy

Jun 30, 2011, 09:18 AM	#227
madviking losing my edge Join Date: May 2005 Location: waking up naked on a beach in Ibiza Posts: 8,793 Images: 3	Well I'm supposing that this hypothetical individual is a multi-generation South African, e.g. Charlize Theron. __________________ This marks the beginning of that very happy time when politics will recede into the background ... and engineers and agronomists will do most of the talking. - V. I. Lenin I feel sorry for people who don't drink; when they wake up in the morning that's as good as they're going to feel all day. - Frank Sinatra (+sheep, -dog) \| Join #fiftychat \| Island of the Three Legged Sicilians (18 May: Chapter 13) \| '12 NCAA Pick'em co-champion \| RIP Z.B. -- 10/11/92 - 4/18/12

Jun 30, 2011, 12:01 PM	#229
Farm Boy as you wish Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Amber Waves of Grain Posts: 3,705	True enough. __________________ “The American farmer is the only man in our economy who buys everything he buys at retail, sells everything he sells at wholesale, and pays the freight both ways.” – John F. Kennedy

Jun 30, 2011, 12:50 PM	#230
Shekwan Kim Chi Quaffing Celt Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: South Korea Posts: 5,784	Why are North East Asian countries more anti-drugs than Western European countries? __________________ It's never too early to learn that the government is a greedy piglet that suckles on a taxpayer's teet until they have sore, chapped nipples. I'm gonna need a different metaphor to give this nine year old.

Jun 30, 2011, 06:43 PM	#232
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Jul 01, 2011, 04:53 PM	#233
Farm Boy as you wish Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Amber Waves of Grain Posts: 3,705	Fireworks shows run by, assisted by, or policed by state employees will probably not happen. Fireworks shows run on state property that is now closed will probably not happen. Local municipalities holding shows on municipal property are likely to go ahead as planned.? __________________ “The American farmer is the only man in our economy who buys everything he buys at retail, sells everything he sells at wholesale, and pays the freight both ways.” – John F. Kennedy

Jul 02, 2011, 02:30 PM	#234
AL_DA_GREAT amour absinthe révolution Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 5,070	If you have trouble carrying luggage up a staircase and someone comes and helps you and only afterwards demands money should you pay? I wouldn't mind the money but I feel ripped off when they only tell me after. __________________ Freedom for the Karen people

Jul 02, 2011, 02:59 PM	#235
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Jul 03, 2011, 07:22 AM	#240
SS-18 ICBM Singularity Mechanics Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Newton Grav. Lab, Tsiolkovsky Inst. Posts: 11,559	I have this dream of someday laughing at the OPEC nations when the industrial nations of the world no longer need oil. What about you guys? What instances of geopolitical schadenfreude do you wish to partake in? __________________ "Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!" -Psalm 133:1, King James Bible "All men naturally desire knowledge. An indication of this is our esteem for the senses; for apart from their use we esteem them for their own sake, and most of all the sense of sight. [...] The reason of this is that of all the senses sight best helps us to know things, and reveals many distinctions." -Aristotle, I 980a 21, Metaphysics

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