Diplomacy and the AI?

[psyave]

Hey all,

I snooped around here when civ4 was out and now that I'm hammering into Civ5 I'm wondering how one might become allied with an AI player? and is prem alliances available?

I've played around 6 games now on warlord/prince and have won each one... however they have all been from domination victories. I usually play on a continent map, tiny/small. So most of the time I knock off my island AI before I even meet the other ones. Does this effect my relationship with later AI's before I meet them? also how much of an effect does attacking a city-state have on an AI relationship?

cheers

[apocalypse105]

Originally Posted by psyave

Hey all,

I snooped around here when civ4 was out and now that I'm hammering into Civ5 I'm wondering how one might become allied with an AI player? and is prem alliances available?

I've played around 6 games now on warlord/prince and have won each one... however they have all been from domination victories. I usually play on a continent map, tiny/small. So most of the time I knock off my island AI before I even meet the other ones. Does this effect my relationship with later AI's before I meet them? also how much of an effect does attacking a city-state have on an AI relationship?

cheers

FIrst of all there is no such ting is permament alliance in civ 5

Second of the more you declare war and take cities the more people will start to get anoyed with you. If you atack a city state you can be sure that almost hole the world will hate you so only do it if you allready hated by everyone...
Atacking a city state is bad a lot of peole tell you are picking on the weak and starting to denounce you.. Some warmongers dont care if you do it(like montezuma) but not all warmongers can be trusted.....


To get good relations with a AI you need to look at the global politics(diplomatic overvieuw global politics)
You can make decleration of friendship with some AI's and this will give you a positif modfier however you need to give him someting a gift if he asked it... The more trade you do with this leader the more likly he will ofer you a friendship or accept.

This decleration of friendship can have positif result for your diplomatic relations every leader that has a decleration of friendship with this leader will like you more because:" we have made a decleration with the same leaders" positif threat.


Be aware that sigining a decleration of friendship will anger his enemies so if you see in global politics everybody is anger at this person dont accept verry important!!!


Finally the denouncing system can olso be used to make friends with the AI :
IF you see some AI denounce a same player you can denounce that player to to get a positif modifier with them. However denouncing someone will anger him and his friends...
To use this probably if you see the hole world hates the warmonger japan for example denounce japan he will likly not have friends.

So this diplomacy is more about making friends and finding a comman enemy...


Be aware that some leaders just want your land if so defend yourself against them but dont wipe them complete out because that results in a warmonger hit just defend if you want to play peacefull.

side note: Sometimes people like augustus cesar ot others will atack you but you will not get a negatif modifier when the war is over(you have been at war negatif modfier) strange enough so you can still trade with him its llikly they are beeing bribed by someone who hates you..


other positif modifiers:

If you clear a barbarian camp you sometimes capture a worker this can belong to a civilization if you return it you get some positif modifier with him.

New patch:

In the new patch there will be some more positif modifiers now the AI will like you more if you trade a lot with him: The positif modifier is higher if the deals are verry good for him.

Second of if a Ai ask you to go to war against someone together you will get a positif modifier for this...

However there are olso some negatif modifier: if you take someone capital you will get a permament negatif modifier same as if you nuke somebody.

English is not my natural language so my apologies for the grammar

[psyave]

Thanks for the reply Apocalypse105!

I didn't realize how many negative modifiers I could actually acquire before meeting other AI players.