Playing with Mods

Cheeseisgood · Aug 31, 2011, 05:21 AM

Currently I play with no mods, I am an achievement junkie.

Quick and basic question, can you still get Steam Achievements while playing with mods such as Infoaddict? Or are they disabled?

The Mad Russian · Aug 31, 2011, 05:27 AM

Nope. I use three mods, one of them being InfoAddict, and as long as you use mods, you can't gain achievements. If they would implement the features that IA has, then there wouldn't be an issue.

kaltorak · Aug 31, 2011, 05:27 AM

there are no achivements while playing with mods. I think that's reasonable, since you could mod a way to get the achivements easily.

Cheeseisgood · Aug 31, 2011, 05:30 AM

Damn, that's pretty frustrating. Looks like I'm staying with Vanilla for now then.

I have no intention of cheating to get the achievements, it's just there's a lot of little fixes and improvements I'd love which are pretty much all modded, like InfoAddict. Guess I'll carry on living without them then.

Cheers

Cryotek · Aug 31, 2011, 10:16 AM

I tried InfoAddict for the first time last week. Also had my first science win with Montezuma to find out that I didn't get the achievments. T.T

Kwik E Mart · Aug 31, 2011, 10:30 AM

on a semi-realated note, is there a way to reset all of one's achievements?

Spatzimaus · Aug 31, 2011, 01:04 PM

If the choice is between the vanilla game and achievements, or a modded game and no achievements, I don't think it's even close; the vanilla game is just horribly easy and boring compared to a good mod. It's not even close, and achievements, while nice little things to have, are ultimately useless. So I haven't played a vanilla game since, oh, November of last year.

ShahJahanII · Aug 31, 2011, 04:23 PM

Some mods like InfoAddict are so good they should be built into the game.

qemist · Sep 04, 2011, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spatzimaus

If the choice is between the vanilla game and achievements, or a modded game and no achievements, I don't think it's even close; the vanilla game is just horribly easy and boring compared to a good mod. It's not even close, and achievements, while nice little things to have, are ultimately useless. So I haven't played a vanilla game since, oh, November of last year.

The vanilla game has changed enormously since then. It's now more butterscotch.

Some mods such as InfoAddict only make the game easier, so I can see why they would prevent achievements. Not that I care about achievements anyway. They can be gained by rerolling.

spider1 · Sep 04, 2011, 06:03 AM

You can have both here. I've been in "acievement mode" before, playing the game strictly to rack them up. Then I'll miss my favorite mods, and go back to that for a while. Mostly been playing with the mods lately.

Mercade · Sep 04, 2011, 06:22 AM

The main difference is that there are mods that effect gameplay and there are mods that only make information available (that a player should reasonably have access to) that is currently not available (easily).

Simple mods like the one that gives you an overview of your luxuries in the top bar only mimic what's already there for strategic resources. There is no unfairness in using such mod. Otoh, if you mod the Roman Legion to have the properties of the GDR then clearly you're building an unfair advantage that changes the outcome of the game.

It should be possible to have a moderation/vetting process that determines whether a mod only has visual/information effects, and should be allowed without disrupting achievements. I like playing "vanilla" in terms of gameplay, but I do also like visual/information mods.

A simple mod = no achievement is the easiest to implement, but doesn't do justice to visual/information mods.

ShahJahanII · Sep 04, 2011, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercade

The main difference is that there are mods that effect gameplay and there are mods that only make information available (that a player should reasonably have access to) that is currently not available (easily).

Simple mods like the one that gives you an overview of your luxuries in the top bar only mimic what's already there for strategic resources. There is no unfairness in using such mod. Otoh, if you mod the Roman Legion to have the properties of the GDR then clearly you're building an unfair advantage that changes the outcome of the game.

It should be possible to have a moderation/vetting process that determines whether a mod only has visual/information effects, and should be allowed without disrupting achievements. I like playing "vanilla" in terms of gameplay, but I do also like visual/information mods.

A simple mod = no achievement is the easiest to implement, but doesn't do justice to visual/information mods.

Firaxis needs to pay closer attention to the modding community and make mods like this built into the game.

headcase · Sep 04, 2011, 05:04 PM

Firaxis probably will add fan mods eventually, but they would rather the fans update their mods until the game is fully patched, rather than the devs have to worry about each mod they integrated every time they patch.

Aug 31, 2011, 05:21 AM	#1
Cheeseisgood Warlord Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 140	Playing with Mods Currently I play with no mods, I am an achievement junkie. Quick and basic question, can you still get Steam Achievements while playing with mods such as Infoaddict? Or are they disabled?

Aug 31, 2011, 05:27 AM	#2
The Mad Russian Armchair Dictator Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: I don't live. I roam mindlessly Posts: 195	Nope. I use three mods, one of them being InfoAddict, and as long as you use mods, you can't gain achievements. If they would implement the features that IA has, then there wouldn't be an issue. __________________ My Rig: Dell XPS 17 i5 Core L701X x4 560 @ 2.67 GHz with 6 GB RAM, Windows 7 Professional 64-bit and 1 GB GeoForce 435M GFX Card.

Aug 31, 2011, 01:04 PM	#7
Spatzimaus Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 3,062	If the choice is between the vanilla game and achievements, or a modded game and no achievements, I don't think it's even close; the vanilla game is just horribly easy and boring compared to a good mod. It's not even close, and achievements, while nice little things to have, are ultimately useless. So I haven't played a vanilla game since, oh, November of last year. __________________ Once upon a time there was the Ages of Man mod set. Then Firaxis broke it. But thanks to the DLL efforts of the community, the mods shall rise again!

Aug 31, 2011, 04:23 PM	#8
ShahJahanII Homesick Alien Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: East Coast Posts: 1,811	Some mods like InfoAddict are so good they should be built into the game. __________________ "The geeks shall inherit the Earth!" East Indies Scenario-We Need Your Help! Want to recommend new civilizations for CivV? See here.

Sep 04, 2011, 06:22 AM	#11
Mercade the Counsellor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,441 Images: 3	The main difference is that there are mods that effect gameplay and there are mods that only make information available (that a player should reasonably have access to) that is currently not available (easily). Simple mods like the one that gives you an overview of your luxuries in the top bar only mimic what's already there for strategic resources. There is no unfairness in using such mod. Otoh, if you mod the Roman Legion to have the properties of the GDR then clearly you're building an unfair advantage that changes the outcome of the game. It should be possible to have a moderation/vetting process that determines whether a mod only has visual/information effects, and should be allowed without disrupting achievements. I like playing "vanilla" in terms of gameplay, but I do also like visual/information mods. A simple mod = no achievement is the easiest to implement, but doesn't do justice to visual/information mods. __________________ World-wide Civ5 web-order shops -- Enjoy the [civ4] smiley

Aug 31, 2011, 05:27 AM	#3
kaltorak Emperor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Madrid Posts: 1,155	there are no achivements while playing with mods. I think that's reasonable, since you could mod a way to get the achivements easily.

Aug 31, 2011, 05:30 AM	#4
Cheeseisgood Warlord Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 140	Damn, that's pretty frustrating. Looks like I'm staying with Vanilla for now then. I have no intention of cheating to get the achievements, it's just there's a lot of little fixes and improvements I'd love which are pretty much all modded, like InfoAddict. Guess I'll carry on living without them then. Cheers

Aug 31, 2011, 10:16 AM	#5
Cryotek Chieftain Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Quebec City, Canada Posts: 5	I tried InfoAddict for the first time last week. Also had my first science win with Montezuma to find out that I didn't get the achievments. T.T

Aug 31, 2011, 10:30 AM	#6
Kwik E Mart Chieftain Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 49	on a semi-realated note, is there a way to reset all of one's achievements?

Sep 04, 2011, 06:03 AM	#10
spider1 Prince Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 528	You can have both here. I've been in "acievement mode" before, playing the game strictly to rack them up. Then I'll miss my favorite mods, and go back to that for a while. Mostly been playing with the mods lately.

Sep 04, 2011, 05:04 PM	#13
headcase Limit 1 Facepalm Per Turn Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,002	Firaxis probably will add fan mods eventually, but they would rather the fans update their mods until the game is fully patched, rather than the devs have to worry about each mod they integrated every time they patch.

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