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Old Feb 07, 2003, 09:41 PM   #1
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Opinions of Accelerated Production?

So after a year away from Civ 3, I started playing again, with the new accelerated production. I tried playing without that the other day and it's totally ruined my edge, I am getting stomped.

Just curious about peoples' opinions for or against accelerated production.
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Old Feb 07, 2003, 10:06 PM   #2
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I have played nothing but accelerated production in most of my PBEM games and all of my hotseat games.

And in my current tournament game and the GOTM, it is a huge jump going back to non AP.

But I really like AP, makes for some very interesting games.
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Old Feb 07, 2003, 10:34 PM   #3
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I always seem to play accelerated production. I hate waiting around forever to get techs. There are some instances were I want to play long and extended games. These are usually huge maps with as little ocean as possible.

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Old Feb 07, 2003, 10:48 PM   #4
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Ever since I played my first accelerated game, all the games I've been playing from that time on has been accelerated.
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Old Feb 07, 2003, 11:09 PM   #5
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I've played with accelerated production for a while. Then I started to play games without it. I went through what could best described as "AP withdrawal". It wasn't pretty... but I'm now used to non-AP games again.
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Old Feb 07, 2003, 11:43 PM   #6
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It seems once you go AP, you don't go back. . . I use AP, and wouldn't have it any other way.

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Old Feb 07, 2003, 11:48 PM   #7
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Not tried AP yet. I think about it, and then I wonder if it will be all rush and no tactics... so put it off until the next game.... and the next....
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Old Feb 07, 2003, 11:50 PM   #8
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I don't use AP, don't like it. The way it compresses the playing time doesn't feel right. That and while everything else gets doubled, movement rate stays the same and workers still work the same pace, it just skews the game into something else that I'm not interested in playing. Only reason I would play it would be in a PBEM game, just because it would be such a pain to pass around those save files and anything that gets the game over faster is probably worth it.
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Old Feb 08, 2003, 01:37 AM   #9
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AP in many ways lowers the difficulty level of the game. The AI isn't all that good at minimizing spillover (both food and production) without AP, and I'm sure it's worse with it. At higher difficulty levels they don't need a commerce/research boost at all either because of the 4 turn tech limit and the player will just end up with all the AI's cash anyways through smart trading. I almost never get even half what I could from the AI for a trade because they are so strapped for cash with the default rules.

Basically, it just gives the players a bonus against the AI. The player can alter their terrain improvements and build orders so as to minimize production and food spillover.
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Old Feb 08, 2003, 02:49 AM   #10
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Once I started AP, I haven't gone back since.

It's a little hard to manage though when you get three warriors before any pop increase.
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Old Feb 08, 2003, 03:22 AM   #11
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I never tried it.
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Old Feb 08, 2003, 01:42 PM   #12
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there is no realistic timeline to Civ 3.

play without AP: start spaceship before man set foot on the moon.
pay with AP: start spaceship before man set foot on the moon.

so: no realistic time-line in Civ 3 anyhow-
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Old Feb 08, 2003, 01:47 PM   #13
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Its a very good thing if you like quick games
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Old Feb 08, 2003, 06:26 PM   #14
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Just be careful with invading AI cities that have a lot of food around. In Despotism, the AI will pop-rush those spearmen like crazy, since population now grows twice as fast.
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Old Feb 08, 2003, 11:01 PM   #15
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Ap makes the game go a little too fast. I mean, having 50+ cities without warring before AD. is a little too fast.
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Old Feb 08, 2003, 11:36 PM   #16
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It can go a little fast...

I once lowered the tech rate on a tiny map by 20 and had AP. I had riflemen before I had all my cities connected, and being ahead technologically, my newly created SoD of Medieval Infantry were going up against Infantry.
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Old Feb 09, 2003, 08:12 AM   #17
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I dont like AP
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Old Feb 09, 2003, 08:30 AM   #18
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I never really tried AP. I will now, since you guys generally think it's great. Is it as addicting as the game itself? (This is not to be answered)
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Old Feb 09, 2003, 08:40 AM   #19
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I don't like AP. It is bad enough in the full game that I complete all the buildings quickly and end up having to build military units or wealth without AP doing that in double-quick time.


With the rapidity of development the game technology to timeline also gets more distorted, something that I don't like neither. Furthermore I don't really see the need of it, just increasing the number of units, how quickly things are built does not make the game more enjoyable as far as I'm concerned.


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Old Feb 09, 2003, 08:40 AM   #20
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I dont like Ap. I'd just rather play classic than fast. I dont like researching Nationalism in 400 ad.
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