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Old Sep 14, 2011, 09:58 AM   #1
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Question Need Additional Unit Bonus/Penalty Info

(Part II of my attempt to get the latest/best accurate info for a Civ5 unit reference table that I'm generating...any and all "fill in the blank" data would be greatly appreciated)

Does anyone know what the exact number/percentage/data for the following unit "abilities" (including combat/range bonuses and penalties) are:

[missing data request format--below: Unit--(missing numerical info)]
[requested values are for standard game pace]

(a) Settler--is hammer cost 89 or 90?
(b) Warrior--does it automatically receive a combat bonus (33%) against barbarians?
(c) Conquistador--extra sight = 1 or 2?
(d) Mandekalu Cavalry--does it have a city attack bonus? if so, is it +10%?
(e) Cavalry--what is the combat penalty % vs. other mounted?
(f) Cossack--(same question as Cavalry, different penalty %?)
(g) Lancer--amount (%) of defensive combat penalty?
(h) Sipahi--(same question as Lancer, different penalty %?)
(i) Anti-Aircraft Gun--is combat bonus vs aircraft AND helicopters both 100%? or different %s?
(j) Anti-Tank Gun--what is combat bonus vs. tanks? 100%?
(k) Fighter--what is combat bonus vs. helicopters? 50%?
(l) Panzer--does it have extra sight (over regular Tank) of +1? what does its "limited visibility" penalty mean?
(m) Giant Death Robot--is cost really 425 hammers (Civilopedia)? (I thought it was 1000 hammers or thereabouts)
(n) Zero--what is the combat bonus % vs. fighters? same combat bonus % vs. helicopters as regular fighter?
(o) B17--what is the ranged penalty % vs. naval units?
(p) Bomber--(same question as B17, different penalty %?)
(q) Helicopter Gunship--what is combat bonus % vs. tanks? 100%?
(r) Jet Fighter--(same question as Fighter, different combat bonus %?)
(s) Mobile SAM--what are combat bonuses vs. aircraft (100%?) and helicopters (100%?)
(t) Stealth Bomber--(same question as Bomber, different penalty %?)


Help me fill in the numbers above...thanks!
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Old Sep 14, 2011, 11:02 AM   #2
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b) no, it depends on difficulty level and all units get it
c) 2
d) no, but it has no penalty
e) -50%
f) -50%
g) -50%
h) -50%
i) both 100%
j) 100%
k) 50%
l) tanks have normal sight now; they no longer have any sight penatly - I'm not sure what source you are studying, but it is wrong
m) 425, again you are studying obsolete sources (earlier patches)
q) 100%
s) both 100
all bombers: -50% I believe
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Old Sep 14, 2011, 12:14 PM   #3
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If I remember it correctly Songhai UU has 10% bonus Vs cities.
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Old Sep 14, 2011, 01:37 PM   #4
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I think if you consult the Civilopedia you'll find that both the Conquistador and Mandekalu lack penalties against cities. Unfortunately that is the Mandekalu's only claim to fame while the Conquistador has a few other tricks up its sleeve (can settle cities, 2 sight, defends when embarked).
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Old Sep 14, 2011, 07:12 PM   #5
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LOL Excellent Info/Responses

Thanks guys for the timely info...that about answers all of my questions (other than cost of Settler: 89 or 90 hammers, for Prince, standard)

Excellent feedback/answers!

Separate issue/question--anyone know where I can find in-game icon images for the various units (not Civilopedia images)?

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