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nonconformist · Oct 06, 2011, 11:41 AM

Is it acceptable to use this in OT?

I've seen a distinctive rise in people calling other peoples' arguments "BS" or "crap" or the like, which seems to require no further argument, as it's fairly tautological in itself.

JollyRoger · Oct 06, 2011, 12:01 PM

It is apparent to me that such a method of calling out the deficencies in an argument is more acceptable than using a clever one liner instead.

Akka · Oct 06, 2011, 12:02 PM

I find it acceptable as long as it's true.
Better than politically correct crap that ends up doing the same thing, just hidden with hypocrital smiles and lots of round-about.

Abaddon · Oct 06, 2011, 01:33 PM

Well, they say attack the argument, not the poster.. so I think it should be ok.

Valka D'Ur · Oct 06, 2011, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nonconformist

Is it acceptable to use this in OT?

I've seen a distinctive rise in people calling other peoples' arguments "BS" or "crap" or the like, which seems to require no further argument, as it's fairly tautological in itself.

Well, they could call it "solid organic bovine waste material" but that's a lot more typing. Personally, I wish we could just have one of the classic "BS flag" smileys.

Camikaze · Oct 06, 2011, 10:48 PM

From the forum rules:

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Trolling
• Generally being rude. Being overly critical, or expressing your opinions in a rude manner

You should not pass negative judgment on the quality of other peoples' arguments (eg. referring to their opinions or posts as 'clueless', 'moronic', 'ignorant', 'stupid', ‘fail’ etc).

It's generally trolling (particularly so if just in the vein of 'your argument is BS, and that is all I have to say'). If you see trolling, please report it.

Mise · Oct 07, 2011, 02:54 AM

It's absolutely fine to call a post BS. A CFC admin actually called one of my posts "complete and total BS" so obviously it's perfectly acceptable. In fact, that was literally all he said about the post, so Camikaze is wrong - it's not trolling at all.

Thoughtful Thug · Oct 07, 2011, 03:21 AM

I have no problem if someone call me out and say my post is nothing but BS. In most cases, everybody in here did a little BS at one or few times. Some just do it more frequently than others.

If you see someone say BS, then don't report the guy as some moderators would like you to do. That to me is trolling.

nonconformist · Oct 07, 2011, 06:51 AM

Eh, I never report posts anyways. It's just counter productive.

classical_hero · Oct 07, 2011, 07:09 AM

So basically from Camikze's post, just about everything in OT is trolling due to way how it is worded and applied.

Abaddon · Oct 07, 2011, 09:58 AM

Thats a quote from the rules!?!!!

Geez, that is literally the worst description of trolling I have ever seen! It could be used to moderate almost any post, even this one!

classical_hero · Oct 07, 2011, 11:51 AM

Exactly. It is a terrible definition of what a troll is.

holy king · Oct 08, 2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Abaddon

Thats a quote from the rules!?!!!

Geez, that is literally the worst description of trolling I have ever seen! It could be used to moderate almost any post, even this one!

now dont you be overly critical.

JollyRoger · Oct 08, 2011, 12:12 PM

I wouldn't call the definition 'clueless', 'moronic', 'ignorant', 'stupid', or ‘fail’ as I wouldn't want to troll those words in such a manner.

Abaddon · Oct 08, 2011, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by holy king

now don't you be overly critical.

Stop being over critical of me!

EnglishCrusader · Oct 08, 2011, 03:49 PM

You're all trolls.

NickyJ · Oct 08, 2011, 04:20 PM

Never mind. I'm a punk that doesn't feel lucky.

Delete me. (The post, not the user!

)

Abaddon · Oct 08, 2011, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EnglishCrusader

You're all trolls.

It is against the rules to accuse someone of being a troll...

holy king · Oct 08, 2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Abaddon

It is against the rules to accuse someone of being a troll...

now you're just passing negative judgement on his post.

NickyJ · Oct 08, 2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by holy king

now you're just passing negative judgement on his post.

How dare you pass negative judgement on his post that passes negative judgement. The shame of it all.

Oct 06, 2011, 11:41 AM	#1
nonconformist Miserable Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canterbury Posts: 18,754	Bs Is it acceptable to use this in OT? I've seen a distinctive rise in people calling other peoples' arguments "BS" or "crap" or the like, which seems to require no further argument, as it's fairly tautological in itself. __________________ In Love with a Reverse Mermaid I ate the bacon already. I could smell it in your purse before I even parked my car. And now it’s gone and I hate everything. Allez Les Bleus! World Cup 2011

Oct 06, 2011, 12:02 PM	#3
Akka Moody old mage. Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Facing my computer. Posts: 8,455	I find it acceptable as long as it's true. Better than politically correct crap that ends up doing the same thing, just hidden with hypocrital smiles and lots of round-about. __________________ If violence didn't solve your problem... Well, you just haven't been violent enough.

Oct 07, 2011, 02:54 AM	#7
Mise isle of lucy Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 25,073	It's absolutely fine to call a post BS. A CFC admin actually called one of my posts "complete and total BS" so obviously it's perfectly acceptable. In fact, that was literally all he said about the post, so Camikaze is wrong - it's not trolling at all. __________________ Come to fiftychat! It's where downtown hangs out! Last edited by Mise; Oct 07, 2011 at 03:04 AM.

Oct 07, 2011, 06:51 AM	#9
nonconformist Miserable Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canterbury Posts: 18,754	Eh, I never report posts anyways. It's just counter productive. __________________ In Love with a Reverse Mermaid I ate the bacon already. I could smell it in your purse before I even parked my car. And now it’s gone and I hate everything. Allez Les Bleus! World Cup 2011

Oct 07, 2011, 07:09 AM	#10
classical_hero In whom I trust Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Perth,Western Australia Posts: 26,929	So basically from Camikze's post, just about everything in OT is trolling due to way how it is worded and applied. __________________ Sola gratia, Sola fide, Sola scriptura, Solus Christus, Soli Deo gloria. Hallelujah!! Join the Multi-Team Democracy Game II. Ask a Young Earth Creationist 2 Creation Ministries International. Please join the CFC Fantasy League for the EPL & CFC Weight Loss Pact and get fit

Oct 06, 2011, 12:01 PM	#2
JollyRoger _ Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 34,087	It is apparent to me that such a method of calling out the deficencies in an argument is more acceptable than using a clever one liner instead.

Oct 06, 2011, 01:33 PM	#4
Abaddon Deity Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NES/FG/SF Activity:Arguing the toss Posts: 30,712 Images: 69	Well, they say attack the argument, not the poster.. so I think it should be ok.

Oct 07, 2011, 03:21 AM	#8
Thoughtful Thug Deity Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ohi-yo Posts: 2,345	I have no problem if someone call me out and say my post is nothing but BS. In most cases, everybody in here did a little BS at one or few times. Some just do it more frequently than others. If you see someone say BS, then don't report the guy as some moderators would like you to do. That to me is trolling.

Oct 07, 2011, 09:58 AM	#11
Abaddon Deity Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NES/FG/SF Activity:Arguing the toss Posts: 30,712 Images: 69	Thats a quote from the rules!?!!! Geez, that is literally the worst description of trolling I have ever seen! It could be used to moderate almost any post, even this one!

Oct 07, 2011, 11:51 AM	#12
classical_hero In whom I trust Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Perth,Western Australia Posts: 26,929	Exactly. It is a terrible definition of what a troll is. __________________ Sola gratia, Sola fide, Sola scriptura, Solus Christus, Soli Deo gloria. Hallelujah!! Join the Multi-Team Democracy Game II. Ask a Young Earth Creationist 2 Creation Ministries International. Please join the CFC Fantasy League for the EPL & CFC Weight Loss Pact and get fit

Oct 08, 2011, 12:12 PM	#14
JollyRoger _ Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 34,087	I wouldn't call the definition 'clueless', 'moronic', 'ignorant', 'stupid', or ‘fail’ as I wouldn't want to troll those words in such a manner.

Oct 08, 2011, 03:49 PM	#16
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Oct 08, 2011, 04:20 PM	#17
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