Hall of Fame Rules/FAQ

superslug · Jan 23, 2005, 09:15 PM

NOTE: If the answer to your question isn't in the first seven posts, feel free to skip reading the rest and just ask!

Rules last updated Jan 5th, 2006

This thread replaces the old HoF rules, as well as the Rules Discussion. Do note that the list is fairly more comprehensive than the last one, and does differ on some points from GOTM rules, so please familiarize yourself with it.

Questions may be asked in this thread.

Game Settings
Allowed Exploits
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Disallowed Exploits and Cheats
Acceptable Utilities
F.A.Q.
Quartermaster's Challenge

superslug · Jan 23, 2005, 09:15 PM

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superslug · Jan 24, 2005, 12:00 PM

As requested and promised last week, a more comprehensive rule set.

This thread is now open for business!

MOTH · Jan 24, 2005, 02:31 PM

I have a question about the Infinite Map Trading technique. I often ask the AI what it wants for its map so I can get updated barb camp locations. This invariable is a WM for WM or TM. I am not getting any Gold, but (as noted) I am getting the new barb camp locations.

Is this considered part of the exploit or is it just the exploit if I ask the AI what they will pay for my Map and they offer Map + Gold?

Thanks

denyd · Jan 24, 2005, 05:18 PM

Superslug:

One more thing if you could please list the HOF combinations that are available. IE: What games are tracked on earliest win and what are tracked on highest score?

LulThyme · Jan 24, 2005, 07:41 PM

Good work Superslug!!
I dont understand why only a Palace prebuild is reason to go riot?
Why not another wonder prebuild, say in a capital city in a 20 K game or something...?

superslug · Jan 24, 2005, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOTH

I have a question about the Infinite Map Trading technique. I often ask the AI what it wants for its map so I can get updated barb camp locations. This invariable is a WM for WM or TM. I am not getting any Gold, but (as noted) I am getting the new barb camp locations.

Is this considered part of the exploit or is it just the exploit if I ask the AI what they will pay for my Map and they offer Map + Gold?

Thanks

An example of the exploit (and it doesn't always work) is this: You trade a map to an AI for x gold. You then trade the same map to the same AI for gold again and again in the same turn, possibly repeating until you clean out their treasury.

Trading WM and TM to all AI's every turn is perfectly acceptable. It's even legal to trade again every time you discover new tiles, but trading them exactly what you've already traded them in that turn is not.

If you're just doing normal trading every turn, you're in no risk of the exploit.

superslug · Jan 24, 2005, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denyd

Superslug:

One more thing if you could please list the HOF combinations that are available. IE: What games are tracked on earliest win and what are tracked on highest score?

The in-game victory conditions (Spaceship, Domination, Conquest, Diplomatic and both Cultures) are listed by fastest finish dates.

Histographic wins are sorted by score since by nature they only occur at 2050.

Score games can be anything (including losses) so long as the score is high enough to make the table.

superslug · Jan 24, 2005, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LulThyme

Good work Superslug!!
I dont understand why only a Palace prebuild is reason to go riot?
Why not another wonder prebuild, say in a capital city in a 20 K game or something...?

I'll redo the wording to stipulate prebuilds in general. No sense discriminating against 20k games on a technical matter!

DaveMcW · Jan 24, 2005, 09:50 PM

How about...

Double negative GPT: Trade 5% of your gpt income to a despot AI (they can't spend the money). Repeat 20+ times. You can spend the lump sums you trade for before your turn ends.

EMan · Jan 24, 2005, 10:46 PM

Nice job, 'slug!

superslug · Jan 24, 2005, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveMcW

How about...

Double negative GPT: Trade 5% of your gpt income to a despot AI (they can't spend the money). Repeat 20+ times. You can spend the lump sums you trade for before your turn ends.

Allowing traditional negative GPT was easily the most complex and difficult ruling I've made yet, so I'm going to draw the line here and say no to double-negative GPT.

Vegasgustan · Feb 01, 2005, 10:50 AM

This is a dumb, dumb question. However, here it goes anyway. This Hall of Fame thing is basically this: A member of Civfanatics Forum plays a game with the above rules and then submits it. Point blank, that's it? This has nothing to do with the GOTM standings or anything right? I know the answer, but someone just humor me.

Thanks so much! I am none too smart.

Dianthus · Feb 01, 2005, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegasgustan

A member of Civfanatics Forum plays a game with the above rules and then submits it. Point blank, that's it?

Exactly that. Nice summary, especially for someone who's "none too smart"

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Vegasgustan · Feb 01, 2005, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dianthus

Exactly that. Nice summary, especially for someone who's "none too smart"

.

Thanks! Yep, I know some more better English too!

I will have to submit and old game soon. Mac players are welcome, right?

100th POST!!!!

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MOTH Emperor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: mostly lurking Posts: 1,676	I have a question about the Infinite Map Trading technique. I often ask the AI what it wants for its map so I can get updated barb camp locations. This invariable is a WM for WM or TM. I am not getting any Gold, but (as noted) I am getting the new barb camp locations. Is this considered part of the exploit or is it just the exploit if I ask the AI what they will pay for my Map and they offer Map + Gold? Thanks

Jan 24, 2005, 05:18 PM	#10
denyd Emperor Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 6,585	Superslug: One more thing if you could please list the HOF combinations that are available. IE: What games are tracked on earliest win and what are tracked on highest score? __________________ PTW 1.27/C3C 1.22 \| Khenpo \| SG01 Green Laurel Awards: G49 Cow * G59 Spaceship * G62 Diplomatic * G60/G61 100K * G109 Cow Shields: Purple: C16/G53/G56/G60 * Lime: C24/C33 PBEM Motto: The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient RL Motto: Life's like a movie, write your own ending

Jan 24, 2005, 07:41 PM	#11
LulThyme King Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 619	Good work Superslug!! I dont understand why only a Palace prebuild is reason to go riot? Why not another wonder prebuild, say in a capital city in a 20 K game or something...?

Jan 24, 2005, 09:50 PM	#15
DaveMcW Deity Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,475 Images: 2	How about... Double negative GPT: Trade 5% of your gpt income to a despot AI (they can't spend the money). Repeat 20+ times. You can spend the lump sums you trade for before your turn ends. __________________ . Cottages! . GP Bulb Techs . Vaporize Stupid People Build at least 6 cities . Press Ctrl R to turn on resource bubbles . Build 1.5 workers per city . Check F9 Demographics often . Stay near the top in soldiers . Rush Buying Formula Last edited by DaveMcW; Jan 24, 2005 at 10:01 PM.

Jan 24, 2005, 10:46 PM	#16
EMan HOFer: Milk-Cow? Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Miami Beach FL Denver CO USA Posts: 1,831	Good Work Nice job, 'slug!

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Vegasgustan Warlord Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lost Wages, Nevada Posts: 226	This is a dumb, dumb question. However, here it goes anyway. This Hall of Fame thing is basically this: A member of Civfanatics Forum plays a game with the above rules and then submits it. Point blank, that's it? This has nothing to do with the GOTM standings or anything right? I know the answer, but someone just humor me. Thanks so much! I am none too smart.

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