Success with Sitting Bull

[Pojman]

I just had a very successful diety game using Sitting Bull as the civilization. It was my first time ever trying out the Native American civilization, and I was whipping some butt bigtime.

The philisophical trait kept my economy supercharged with great people, and I went bonkers on the dog soldiers early on.

Anyone else do well with Sitting Bull? I think that he is overlooked.

[Little Faith]

Dogs are outright broken if you play on a difficulty where the AI doesn't start with archery.

And, yes. Phi is awesome for powering through the classical/medieval age tech-wise.

Really there are only two bad things about Sitting Bull:
1. You cannot axe-rush on higher difficulty settings (which isn't that much of an issue as axe-rushes tend to suck at higher difficulties anyway).
2. Starting with fishing spoils the great scientist bulb path towards machinery, which is a crying shame for a leader who is otherwise so ideally set up for crossbow rushes. (You can still go the Oracle-engineer route, but that hinges on getting the Oracle wich is not always an option).

[BurN]

Originally Posted by Pojman

Anyone else do well with Sitting Bull? I think that he is overlooked.

I think he`s one of the best all round deity leaders. High exp archers against inevitable dows. No resource BW unit for barb def. Then philo is a non-commiting trait. He`s great in being all round. But if I want to do `great`... he`s not the first guy I would think of.

[Zx Zero Zx]

He is one of the safest leaders to play Deity on, the vast majority of staying in the tech game on Deity is bulbing. And fending off Shaka with Dogs, and City Defender 3 Drill 1 Archers is a sinch.

[Seraiel]

Sitting Bull is well known for XBow Rush on Deity and MP, at least I thought that...

[Iranon]

He's possibly my least favourite. After sinking a trait and a UB (both contenders for the weakest) into better archery units I don't need a resourceless UU, and I'd usually prefer regular Axemen over Dogs.
Having it relatively easy to choke/disconnect others' resources supply would be nice if the axeman stand-in didn't prefer facing metal-dependent troops to facing archers.

PHI is a very decent trait, but not enough to make me consider Sitting Bull good or even average. More acceptable on Deity than on any other level though.

[rugbyLEAGUEfan]

The resources UU also opens up some nice early wonder options on high levels that would otherwise be unavailable without a means to defend oneself . And PHI works nicely with early wonders .