Any chance of inserting a few extra cape tiles?

[Depravo]

I know changes to the map are verboten, but have you considered making

a) the sea E of Novaya Zemlya and
b) Cape Bojador down to about the latitude of Dakar

Cape / Coast and therefore impassable before caravels?

As things are, European nations can explore all the way to the Cape of Good Hope in galleys, which seems off.

[BenZL43]

I'm thinking of suggesting adding some mortal enemies of naval warriors like Sharks, Whale, Sea Monster (legend), Storms etc..

P.S Just curious. Verboten = Forbidden? Is it dutch language? Because there's a word here in Indonesia, perboden, which means forbidden... Just nice to know if it is true

[iMuffin]

Originally Posted by BenZL43

P.S Just curious. Verboten = Forbidden? Is it dutch language? Because there's a word here in Indonesia, perboden, which means forbidden... Just nice to know if it is true

Verboten is the German word for forbidden, but in Dutch it's 'verboden'. So i guess it's true

[Leoreth]

Don't know if it's Dutch too (possible), but "verboten" is also German for forbidden. Maybe it's a popular word in other languages because strict rules are somehow our thing

Edit: crossposted

Anyway, changes to the map of this kind are not verboten, I'm just against enlarging certain areas of it or turning land into water and vice versa, because that requires extensive changes to other files as well.

I think your proposal is a good idea.

[Depravo]

Thanks

I don't know much about Indonesia, but it's interesting (if not exactly surprising) that the Spanish words that got into Tagalog mainly have to do with work, the law and compulsion in general.

Trabaho
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[strijder20]

Originally Posted by Depravo

Thanks

I don't know much about Indonesia, but it's interesting (if not exactly surprising) that the Spanish words that got into Tagalog mainly have to do with work, the law and compulsion in general.

Trabaho
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Spanish? Dutch, you mean. Indonesia was colonised by the Netherlands.

[Leoreth]

Tagalog is a language on the Philippines.

[Depravo]

Originally Posted by strijder20

Spanish? Dutch, you mean. Indonesia was colonised by the Netherlands.

Yeah, I was talking about the Philippines (thanks Leoreth).

[strijder20]

Oh... but how did the word 'Perboden' (=Verboden/Verboten) get into that language, then? Does anyone knows the Spanish translation of it?

[civ_king]

Originally Posted by strijder20

Oh... but how did the word 'Perboden' (=Verboden/Verboten) get into that language, then? Does anyone knows the Spanish translation of it?

prohibido, prohibited

[BenZL43]

Originally Posted by Depravo

Thanks

I don't know much about Indonesia, but it's interesting (if not exactly surprising) that the Spanish words that got into Tagalog mainly have to do with work, the law and compulsion in general.

Trabaho
/

Most of dutch word here is also mainly about the law etc too! (and Klaapertart )

Administratie > Administrasi..
Boontjes > Buncis..

Is the German word is pretty much the same too?
I'd usually avoid GTranslate because it often mistranslate words

[strijder20]

What's Klaapertart? Is it some kind of pie/pastry (Taart)?

[iOnlySignIn]

I don't think there needs to be more Cape tiles.

Historically Phoenician mariners circumnavigated Africa. That's why I proposed that their UU should be able to pass through Capes - which would also make their UHV easier and less dependent on chance.

[merijn_v1]

Originally Posted by BenZL43

Most of dutch word here is also mainly about the law etc too! (and Klaapertart )

Administratie > Administrasi..
Boontjes > Buncis..

Is the German word is pretty much the same too?
I'd usually avoid GTranslate because it often mistranslate words

Many Dutch words look like German ones. They are in the same family of language. (Like Spanish looks very much the same as Portuguese)

But what does Klaapertart mean? I can't link it to any Dutch word. (Except taart)

[Depravo]

Originally Posted by iOnlySignIn

Historically Phoenician mariners circumnavigated Africa.

That is HIGHLY dubious. In any case, for all practical purposes the Canaries were the edge of the European world until the Portuguese worked out how to get back to Europe from points further south.

[BenZL43]

Originally Posted by merijn_v1

Many Dutch words look like German ones. They are in the same family of language. (Like Spanish looks very much the same as Portuguese)

But what does Klaapertart mean? I can't link it to any Dutch word. (Except taart)

Eeh?
Isn't its a dutch pastry? The one with rum and coconut?

EDIT : Klappertaart.. Coconut Tart Just found out this is actually a Dutch-influenced Indonesian dish -not native to Dutch..

[iOnlySignIn]

Originally Posted by Depravo

That is HIGHLY dubious. In any case, for all practical purposes the Canaries were the edge of the European world until the Portuguese worked out how to get back to Europe from points further south.

Do not underestimate the power of winds and currents. The Polynesians for example sailed some 3,000 km across the Pacific in canoes to settle Easter Island before the Canary Islands were colonized by Europeans.

Anyways here's a detailed analysis of the possible course of the first circumnavigation of Africa.

http://www.livius.org/he-hg/herodotus/hist01.htm

[merijn_v1]

Originally Posted by BenZL43

Eeh?
Isn't its a dutch pastry? The one with rum and coconut?

EDIT : Klappertaart.. Coconut Tart Just found out this is actually a Dutch-influenced Indonesian dish -not native to Dutch..

That's the reason I have never heard of it. Opened the link and saw the Word "Lekker", which is also a Dutch word. However, I also see that a klapper literally means coconut, but I have never heart of the word klapper. Is this a native Indonesian word or so?

[BenZL43]

I'm not sure.. but Indonesian word for Coconut is Kelapa..
Perhaps, the Dutch spell Kelapa as Klapa.. and then stylize it to Klapper?

EDIT : There's Klapper too in Klappertert as South African (ex-Dutch too) food...

[strijder20]

If you pronounce 'Kelapa' in a fast and Dutch way you indeed get Klapper.