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Old Mar 27, 2012, 07:11 PM   #421
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So you have no evidence is what you are saying basically and instead just made up allegations.
Might be the source...

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Old Mar 27, 2012, 07:39 PM   #422
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Good thing Zimmerman had that report in his hands when he decided to do his best Barney Fife.
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 08:23 PM   #423
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I really gotta at MSNBC

first these hypocrites accuse the right wing of evil for looking into the kid's history while they're combing thru Zimmerman's history...

Their histories dont matter, somebody threw the 1st punch... Thats what matters, everything else is BS :nod:

and this little weakling of a child is 6'3" and "fatboy" is almost a half foot shorter? Right... Zimmerman said the kid asked him why he was following and he asked the kid why he was there. It dont take a rocket scientist to figure out why Zimmerman was following him based on that response.
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 08:27 PM   #424
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Nope - it doesn't take a rocket scientist - Zimmerman was looking for a scrap.
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 08:30 PM   #425
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and he proved it by taking one on the nose
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 08:38 PM   #426
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Can't defend your nose when you're reaching for your gun.
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 08:47 PM   #427
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they should hire you for the persecution
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 08:48 PM   #428
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You do realize the lead investigator did not believe Zimmerman and recommended he be charged with manslaughter, right?
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 09:12 PM   #429
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You do realize the lead investigator did not believe Zimmerman and recommended he be charged with manslaughter, right?
This will probably be my last post in this thread, but, before I go, I have to point out how silly all the speculation is. Everyone was pointing the finger at the police department now we hear that the lead investigator wanted to charge him but the DA didn't.

So which is it, the PD is racist or the shooter is racist or are we working on a racist to be named later?

The thing is that another kid is killed and we are no closer to dealing with real problems for all the hate being spewed around this.

I pray for the kid's soul and the shooter's too and for my own I am done with this one.
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 09:13 PM   #430
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yes, and...

gee, detective thinks someone is lying... put him on the stand to back it up. I'd love to hear why he thinks Zimmerman threw the 1st punch. Or did he say Zimmerman was lying about that?
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 09:14 PM   #431
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This will probably be my last post in this thread, but, before I go, I have to point out how silly all the speculation is. Everyone was pointing the finger at the police department now we hear that the lead investigator wanted to charge him but the DA didn't.

So which is it, the PD is racist or the shooter is racist or are we working on a racist to be named later?
Don't you think it is possible that only some members of the Sanford PD are incompetent and likely racist to boot? Based on what has been disclosed, Zimmerman's statements appear to be quite flaky. I don't find it surprising at all that at least one detective didn't take them at face value. I'm actually far more surprised that they didn't even try to use the cell phone to contact acquaintances of Trayvon that very night. That his father had to file a missing persons report to even determine that his son died in the neighborhood where he was visiting.

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The thing is that another kid is killed and we are no closer to dealing with real problems for all the hate being spewed around this.
I think we are much closer through incidents such as this. Anything is better than continuing to ignore the racism and discrimination which pervades our legal system. I like to think that much good even came out of the Rodney King beating and subsequent riots. It is just unfortunate we don't have any similar video tape of this incident.
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 09:24 PM   #432
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yes, and...

gee, detective thinks someone is lying... put him on the stand to back it up. I'd love to hear why he thinks Zimmerman threw the 1st punch. Or did he say Zimmerman was lying about that?
So we are in agreement that Zimmerman needs to be charged?
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 09:25 PM   #433
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Aaaand the racists start coming out of the woodwork to post words about why it's okay to kill black people.
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 10:01 PM   #434
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So we are in agreement that Zimmerman needs to be charged?
I'm not privy to the evidence, if all this guy has is "I think he's lying about something", then of course not.

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Old Mar 27, 2012, 10:36 PM   #435
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Aaaand the racists start coming out of the woodwork to post words about why it's okay to kill black people.
No-one has said that. The racists are the ones who are desperate to twist this tragedy so that it plays into their agenda of stirring up racial hate.
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 10:48 PM   #436
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There you go, thank you,
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 10:54 PM   #437
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Ah, yes, thank you. I was wondering where he was getting this information. I can completely see how this justifies the kid's death at the hands of Zimmerman.

Oh wait no I don't. Cooper, you said you weren't posting here anymore, but I'd still love to hear an explanation.
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 11:53 PM   #438
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No-one has said that. The racists are the ones who are desperate to twist this tragedy so that it plays into their agenda of stirring up racial hate.
You must have missed the posts where the CFC Just World Brigade let us know that a high schooler doing high school things a few weeks ago makes it A-OK for him to get chased down and shot.

I did stupid things all the time when I was in high school. Everyone does. Hint: it still does not make it okay to profile and murder them.

Flip the tables. A black man shoots a white teen dead for some poorly conceived reason. Does the fact that the kid occasionally got into fights with his classmates and was caught smoking weed behind the sheds matter? Of course not, because it does not matter, and digging up pictures and social media of him acting like a dumb kid is irrelevant.
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Can't beat the wife, can't kick the dog, can't smoke, can't shoot cans off the fence with an assault rifle, can't call people who are different than we are names, can't punch anyone in the nose. Its enough to make anyone depressed.

In other words, liberalism.
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Old Mar 28, 2012, 12:09 AM   #439
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yes, and...

gee, detective thinks someone is lying... put him on the stand to back it up. I'd love to hear why he thinks Zimmerman threw the 1st punch. Or did he say Zimmerman was lying about that?
Again, the racists always frame it in terms of minority being the aggressor, and the ever tragic means by which the white man must use to defend themselves.

One of the two confronted the other. It was not Martin. One of the two chased the other through the neighbourhood. It was not Martin. One of the two was armed. It was not Martin.

What I'm saying is that if someone was justified to defend themselves, it was Martin. But of course, those laws weren't meant to protect Martin, they are to protect white people from the terrifying darkie hordes.

(Also, so what if Martin is taller than Zimmerman. Zimmerman was 9 years and 90 pounds heavier. So don't use that worthless argument to prove that Martin was the aggressor and Zimmerman the poor hapless victim being hounded by the bleeding hearts).
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Some people theorize that the reason we seem to have ever increasing levels of depression in the modern world is the ever narrowing way we are allowed to blow off stress.

Can't beat the wife, can't kick the dog, can't smoke, can't shoot cans off the fence with an assault rifle, can't call people who are different than we are names, can't punch anyone in the nose. Its enough to make anyone depressed.

In other words, liberalism.
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Old Mar 28, 2012, 12:16 AM   #440
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You must have missed the posts where the CFC Just World Brigade let us know that a high schooler doing high school things a few weeks ago makes it A-OK for him to get chased down and shot.

I did stupid things all the time when I was in high school. Everyone does. Hint: it still does not make it okay to profile and murder them.

Flip the tables. A black man shoots a white teen dead for some poorly conceived reason. Does the fact that the kid occasionally got into fights with his classmates and was caught smoking weed behind the sheds matter? Of course not, because it does not matter, and digging up pictures and social media of him acting like a dumb kid is irrelevant.
Zimmerman wasn't white anyway so what's that got to do with it? And did your list of stupid things you did as a teen include knocking a guy to the ground after punching him in the face and then banging his head off the ground so that he fears for his life and draws a gun on you in self-defence? If it did, then congrats for making it through that alive and without incarceration.
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