Turf Wars- A Mini Mafia Game

[Verarde]

Wow. This is just stupid. Do you see how easily you guys are being swayed by Mat here? He is really out for my blood. And why? Because he "thinks" I'm scum. Or rather, he wants you all to believe that, while he gets away with it.

I freakin' started the talking about filli_noctus. Why in the world would I bus him in a mini game?! That's just dumb. I think Mat93 is the guy we are looking for. We have no one's word except his own that he is the roleblocker, and frankly, at this point, I find that hard to believe. How easy would it be to fake claim roleblocker and be scum instead?

DarthNader, yes, I sent that PM to classical and Mat. No use denying it. At that point, I trusted the two of them enough to try and set up a voting network between the three of us that would go unnoticed by the scum. That's why I kept it private. I was not "fake" scum hunting. I was scum hunting. Because that's what you do in these games. YOU TRY TO FIND THE SCUM.

Unfortunately, I think I sent the scum hunting PM to the scum. That got the scum scared. So the scum decides to redouble his effort on having me dead. Who could that be, I wonder....

Vote Mat93, and save our city.

[DarthNader]

Unvote

[NinjaCow64]

There might be a third option. I MIGHT have an ability to stop the lynch. I'm not 100% sure, I'll have to PM Bhuddafish for clarification.

[NinjaCow64]

Wait, nevermind, I can't. I'm just going to go with Mat like I originally thought. It's a 50/50 chance really. There's nothing else we can really do.

Vote: Mat93

[Mat93]

Originally Posted by Verarde

Wow. This is just stupid. Do you see how easily you guys are being swayed by Mat here? He is really out for my blood. And why? Because he "thinks" I'm scum. Or rather, he wants you all to believe that, while he gets away with it.

I think your scum? I know it, you know it, and everyone should know it.

There are 4 people alive. If 3 of them are 100% confirmed town, then how the hell is it not a fact that the other one is scum? Please enlighten me there.


I roleblocked dreadnought N2. He was the last scum on that team. His team did not make a kill.

I roleblocked ninjacow last night. There is 1 scum left. The team made a kill.

Therefore ninjacow is not the last scum on the South Mafia team. Simple logic, using facts, i.e. I do not think ninja is innocent, I know.

Darth Nader had the deciding vote in the last round. A choice between killing your team mate, with no suspicion, or killing a town with no suspicion. There is no way in hell that anyone would pick the first one. So he is Town.

I have my Role PM, which gives to me the fact that I am Town.


3 People are confirmed (to me at least) to be Town, through facts. Therefore, in a game with 4 people left in it, how the actual hell can it be that I think the last person is scum? It is a fact, and no one can deny that it is a fact (the fact that in a 4 person game with 3 people confirmed innocent part, people can deny the facts that prove 3 people innocent in this case).

I freakin' started the talking about filli_noctus. Why in the world would I bus him in a mini game?! That's just dumb. I think Mat93 is the guy we are looking for. We have no one's word except his own that he is the roleblocker, and frankly, at this point, I find that hard to believe. How easy would it be to fake claim roleblocker and be scum instead?

Maybe because at the time when you bussed, there were approximately zero votes on him, and you were the most likely to be lynched at that point. If anyone was scum, and expected to die, what is the best possible thing they can do. I'm not sure, but possibly make their team mate the least suspicious person left? Sounds like a good idea to me.

Now before you say that you could of removed your vote to save him, actually it would of reduced it to a tie between you and him, a certain scum loss, and we would of gone after the other 100%. Thats pretty certain, it would of been very hard for either of you to talk your way out of. You know this, so you left your vote on him.

DarthNader, yes, I sent that PM to classical and Mat. No use denying it. At that point, I trusted the two of them enough to try and set up a voting network between the three of us that would go unnoticed by the scum. That's why I kept it private. I was not "fake" scum hunting. I was scum hunting. Because that's what you do in these games. YOU TRY TO FIND THE SCUM.

Despite the fact that I was the most scummy left. And as I've said above, the only proof I have of you being scum (except my day 3 post), is the fact that everyone else is Town. Thats not scum hunting. Thats Town hunting, and it has worked. It does come down the same thing of finding the scum, I will grant you that.

Unfortunately, I think I sent the scum hunting PM to the scum. That got the scum scared. So the scum decides to redouble his effort on having me dead. Who could that be, I wonder....

Vote Mat93, and save our city.

If I was scared, I was scared yesterday, when filli was mainly lynched. Ummm, I did make a post calling for your lynch, and not following the bandwagon. Clear proof that I am scum, obviously.

It is obviously a fake role claim in order to win the game, when after your PM, I could so so easily had said that I roleblocked someone other than Ninja, and got him lynched, as in your opinion, before the end of the night he was 1 of the top 2 targets.

It is so obvious that I would risk drawing so much attention to myself when there was a good chance that the Town would mislynch anyway, winning me the game.

[/SARCASM]

If only I was a quadruple voter who could win the game for the Town on my own. Alas, that will probably never happen to anyone, so looks like all I can do is point out the facts, and hope the 2 people who can change it read, understand, and vote the right way.

If not, then the game is yours (and fillis) Verarde.

[NinjaCow64]

What can I do? If we could, I would go no lynch. However, we cannot. Before I finally make up my mind, I have to ask: What power role do have? It seems like everyone has one, PM it to me. If your ability is one we can use, we could have a plan to catch the real Mafioso.

[Buddhafish]

Vote Tally:
2--Mat93 (Verarde, NinjaCow64)
1--Verarde (Mat93)

Not Voting: DarthNader

Day 4 ends in 5.5 hours

[NinjaCow64]

Verarde hasn't sent me a PM, so that's who I'm voting for. unvote; Vote: Verarde

[Buddhafish]

Vote Tally:
1--Mat93 (Verarde0
2--Verarde (Mat93, NinjaCow64)

Not Voting: DarthNader

Posting closed for final update.

[Buddhafish]

Day 4 Over

Verarde strolled to City Hall with a swagger about him. He was sure that he had fooled the entire town into believing him. All except for Mat93. Verarde didn't care, he knew that NinjaCow64 supported him. But Verarde was in for a shock when he found the town staring him town at City Hall.

Mayor Buddhafish sat in his chair and said, "Verarde, the town has spoken."

Verarde spat back, "You filthy, cowardly little pieces of scum. I hope you all rot in--"

A shot rang out. Verarde dropped to the ground, a knife falling out of his pocket. Mayor Buddhafish stood up and blew the smoke off of his pistol and said, "Lynched"

Spoiler:

Verarde was South Mafia

Player List:
1. classical_hero Killed Night 3--Town
2. Dreadnought Killed Night 2--North Mafia
3. Visorslash Killed Night 1--North Mafia
4. Verarde Lynched Day 4--South Mafia
5. DaveShack Killed Night 1--Town
6. DarthNader
7. NinjaCow64
8. JoanK Lynched Day 2--Town
9. filli_noctus Lynched Day 3--South Mafia
10. Mat93


Congratulations to the Town!

Role PMs, night actions and my thoughts will be posted right after this. Please do not post quite yet.

[Buddhafish]

North Mafia: Visorslash and Dreadnought

Spoiler:

Welcome to Turf Wars.

You are the members of the North Mafia.
Your objective is to be the last team standing.
Dreadnought and Visorslash are both standard killers.
Your team can only kill once per night.
Have fun.

I will not send you each an individual PM, I am just sending this once to your team.

South Mafia: Verarde and filli_noctus

Spoiler:

Welcome to Turf Wars.

You are the members of the South Mafia.
Your objective is to be the last team standing.
Verarde and filli_noctus are both standard killers.
Your team can only kill once per night.
Have fun.

I will not send you each an individual PM, I am just sending once to your team.

Town:

Doctor: DaveShack

Spoiler:

Welcome to Turf Wars.

You are a member of the town.
You also are the only person in the town to go through medical school. That makes you the protector of the people.
Your objective is to defeat the mafia with your votes and protections.
You can choose to protect one person per night. This person will not be killed.
Have fun.

Roleblocker: Mat93

Spoiler:

Welcome to Turf Wars.

You are a member of the town.
You are the town roleblocker.
Your objective is to defeat the mafia with your votes and roleblocks.
You may roleblock one person per night. This will prevent them from performing the action that they planned on doing.
Have fun.

Lynch Stopper: JoanK

Spoiler:

Welcome to Turf Wars.

You are a member of the town.
You also own a very handy boomerang. You are a softy at heart though. Your boomerang can be used once to stop a lynch. No one but you will know who threw the boomerang.
Your objective is to defeat the mafia with your votes and lynch stop.
You can stop one lynch. That's it. No second chances.
Have fun.

Cop: classical_hero

Spoiler:

Welcome to Turf Wars.

You are a member of the town.
You are the town cop. It's your job to sort out the bad guys from the good guys.
Your objective is to defeat the mafia with your votes and investigations.
You can investigate one person per night. You will learn their status, either town or mafia.
Have fun.

Executioner: NinjaCow64--Experimental Role

Spoiler:

Welcome to Turf Wars.

You are a member of the town.
Your are the town executioner. In counting the votes, you may "miscount" the votes once. (Cough cough)
Your objective is to defeat the mafia with your votes and ability.
You can choose one person to be lynched on a day, regardless of the vote tally. This is a one-use ability. To use, just PM me during that day phase at any point.
Have fun.

Drunk: DarthNader--Experimental Role

Spoiler:

Welcome to Turf Wars.

You are a member of the town.
You are the town drunk. You love your alcoholic beverages.
Your objective is to defeat the mafia with your votes and ability.
You can avoid being killed at night once. This is a passive ability. However, the next day, your hangover will prevent you from voting. You can post as many times as you like, but no voting on that day. I will let you know when this day is.
Have fun.

[Visorslash]

Interesting roles, but I must admit it kinda sucked dying N1. I mean, we lost and we weren't even considered to be lynched.

I'm not entirely sure you need two conflicting mafia teams in there, and IMO that made it harder for the scum teams.

[Buddhafish]

Night Actions:

Night 1:

Verarde kills Visorslash
Dreadnought kills DaveShack
Mat93 roleblocks JoanK
classical_hero investigates DarthNader


Night 2:

Verarde kills Dreadnought
Dreadnought kills classical_hero
Mat93 roleblocks Dreadnought
classical_hero investigates filli_noctus


Night 3:

Verarde kills classical_hero
Mat93 roleblocks NinjaCow64
classical_hero investigates Mat93

[Buddhafish]

Thoughts:

Day 1:

I had no lynch because it was either kill off the roleblocker, a mafia member, or my experimental executioner role. I just decided no lynch would be better. If one person had had a lead, I would've lynched them, but since it was a tie, you know.


Night 1:

Verarde hits home on another mafia. That sparks some discussion, which was good. DaveShack was supposed to cause some confusion in the later stages as the doctor, but the game wouldn't be too cruel without his role.


Day 2:

I was really surprised that JoanK didn't stop his own lynch. Maybe his role PM seemed a bit confusing, I don't know. It was meant for flavor, but I'm sorry if it confused you into not using it.


Night 2:

Verarde goes 2 for 2 on the North Mafia. This was unexpected for me. I had thought that the two mafia=s would counteract all of the town power roles. Dreadnought's kill didn't go through because of Mat93, but he didn't learn much since Dreadnought died. classical_hero learns that filli_noctus is mafia.


Day 3:

Verarde and Mat93 go back and forth. I really thought that the bus would save Verarde, but Mat93 didn't really buy it. Not much else going on that day.


Night 3:

Verarde kills classical_hero, a good choice. Not much else going on.


Day 4:

Mat sees through Verarde's bus attempt. This is where it got interesting. If NinjaCow hadn't changed his vote, then Mat93 would have been dead and Verarde would be stuck with a choice. If Verarde had chosen to kill NinjaCow Night 4, he would have won. If he had chosen to kill DarthNader, he would've lost. But NinjaCow changed his vote and here we are.


Experimental Roles:

The executioner was pretty much a one shot day vig with lynch stopper all built in. I'm glad NinjaCow made it through the game, but he never used his abillity.

And this is why I wanted a Night 4. If Verarde had chosen DarthNader, he would've eluded the kill, making his role very interesting.

Then Day 5, NinjaCow would've used his role to end the game, not needing DarthNader's vote that he couldn't have given due to the effects of his role.


Balance:

I had planned that the two mafias would counteract all of the power town roles. Except that Verarde killed the other mafia, making it harder for himself to win the game. It was close all the way to the end, but the game was balanced in the town's favor all the way. Unless the mafias had stayed alive at least past Night 2, a mafia would've won I believe.

Either side could've had a chance, if you're arguing mafia v. town, but mafia v. mafia v. town, the town had a good advantage.

Like I said before though, all of the sides has a reasonable shot at winning, IMO.




Thoughts on the game? Posting is open.

[Visorslash]

I had no lynch because it was either kill off the roleblocker, a mafia member, or my experimental executioner role. I just decided no lynch would be better. If one person had had a lead, I would've lynched them, but since it was a tie, you know.

Don't agree here. Just because it kills off an interesting role, doesn't mean you can say no lynch.

Besides the fact that D1 lynches are important anyway.

When you have two scum teams, they take away from each other's power, with the ability to kill each other. Especially in a mini game. It was defintely far in the town's favour here.

I think that if the mafia had a one time bulletproof, maybe it might've been more balanced (who's to know) but certainly, with a cop, day vig + lynch stopper, lynch stopper, doctor, roleblocker, the town has got a crapton of power roles.

I don't think the game was all that balanced to be perfectly fair (and no offence intended).

Sorry.

[classical_hero]

This was certainly an interesting game. I am glad they got the right result once Mat93 revealed his result on Ninjacow I knew that Verarde was the killer, since I had scanned him. I was hoping that the remaining mafia viewed that Darthnader was the scanner and not me, but unfortunately he made the right choice to kill me, otherwise it would have been open and shut case, so well done the town for winning this one.

[JoanK]

Oh, yes. The description in the PM actually made me think I could use it on anyone but myself, ya know.

[classical_hero]

If unsure, ask the host. It is better to be safe than sorry.

[Mat93]

I would say the game itself was fairly balanced, and fun to play. I personally thought we had lost on the last day, I expected to be lynched, but I'm glad we won. Interesting that the town had a chance even if I was lynched, I didn't think that was possible, but gave us a second chance, with some luck.

A bit unlucky on the Death of the other Mafia so quickly, but well played to Verarde for almost winning, and making it so hard to get himself lynched.

[classical_hero]

I am wondering why Verarde decided to off his team mate? He could have voted for me and that would have been interesting, a 3-way tie for the day. What would the host have done under those situations, but it nearly worked, so it was worth the try, even though in the end it failed.