What is *your* most important strategic resource?

Beerchugger · May 15, 2012, 06:03 AM

If you could guarantee that you had one strategic resource close to your capital every game (meaning you are guaranteed to get it) which would it be?

Note: I included elephants because they allow the building of War Elephants.

lymond · May 15, 2012, 06:10 AM

yep, ivory would be a strategic resource. Stone and Marble would not. Not sure about aluminum either, maybe it activates some late game units.

I voted Horse.

Beerchugger · May 15, 2012, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by lymond

yep, ivory would be a strategic resource. Stone and Marble would not. Not sure about aluminum either, maybe it activates some late game units.

I voted Horse.

Sorry about that, I thought it was health, happiness, and strategic (at least that is how I see it under the city screen) so I assumed they were strategic since they are all listed together. Is there another category I am missing that they should be listed under?

shakabrade · May 15, 2012, 06:39 AM

Horses. With them, every map is winnable in non-cheesy fashion.

Colonel Mustard · May 15, 2012, 06:40 AM

I voted Iron. I only play OCCs and have to be able to build something other than Longbows and catapults.

Next important would be Horse.

Seraiel · May 15, 2012, 06:59 AM

Definately Iron, because for Iron, you can get Horses, for Horses, you don't get Iron.

TheMeInTeam · May 15, 2012, 07:02 AM

BFC horse chariot rushes are absolutely insane. I'd take them. Late game I'd take uranium obviously but that's not what this poll asks.

BTW stone/marble unlock no military unit, however aluminum does (some of the modern/future era units require aluminum).

TheGambitWorm · May 15, 2012, 07:10 AM

Horses, definitely.

lymond · May 15, 2012, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMeInTeam

.....however aluminum does (some of the modern/future era units require aluminum).

yeah, I wasn't sure on that one...late game warfare is not common for me

UnholyMudcrab · May 15, 2012, 01:01 PM

Copper. Nothing beats an early-game axe rush.

elmurcis · May 15, 2012, 01:24 PM

Oil.. Game without Bombers and Fighters is boring

UnforcedError · May 15, 2012, 02:05 PM

And yet another vote for horses. I personally love elephants but ivory is pretty rare compared to the other early game strategic resources.

rah · May 15, 2012, 02:37 PM

any resource that allows me to take the others through conquest

Htadus · May 15, 2012, 04:19 PM

This was a tough one. Horse? Copper? Copper, Horses......?

Copper for now.

migr8r · May 15, 2012, 05:35 PM

Copper! Because I almost never, ever, EVER, get it. I consider it to be the rarest strategic resource in the game.

plasmacannon · May 15, 2012, 05:40 PM

hmmm... I jumped at Ivory, because I do like War Elephants, but if I had to wait until Ivory to get a unit other that archers and warriors, that would be a horrible game.
After some thought, a game can be won or lost before War Elephants even becomes used. Certainly on Epic and Marathon games.

I have been playing a game as Russia and I do not have Copper.
My Iron was half way between me and America.
I did have horse adjacent to my Capitol.
I rushed America with Chariots and eliminated them by 1850 BC.
If, I could switch my vote, I think, it would have to go into the Horse column.
It can be a game changer early.

Though a War Elephant with a Great General giving it +1 Movement from the Morale promotion, is nice.

cain3456 · May 15, 2012, 07:26 PM

Iron for me. You got horses? Gimme pikes and I'll take my chances.

Tlalynet · May 15, 2012, 07:45 PM

It's very hard to decide between horses and copper.

Horses give a couple good early->Classical units. If I have Pigs\Cows\Sheep in the BFC and enough open land to make use of those 2 movements points horses are ideal. If I'm playing any militaristic but non-aggressive leader (like Cha, Cha loves horses) horses are ideal. If I can hit them before their culture pop's to tier 3 and instakill their capital horses are ideal.

In most cases, copper is nicer though. Chopping is going to help you on >95% of map scripts. Copper lets you hard counter opponents with horses. Copper gives a higher base str unit. You can wage an axeman war vs axemen+any other ancient unit, but you can't wage a horse war vs any opponent spearmen. Copper works directly with the aggressive trait.

Iron is tempting, but really if you can't war in the middle ages its not a big loss. Walls or walls+castles takes too much time to break down. Longbows+Cats+castles can defend against whatever is thrown at you before the Renaissance, and chain drafting muskets is viable not long after knights usually hit the scene. I suppose not having iron in the railroad era would be a disaster, but I've never had the displeasure, so it's kind of hard to say...

reddishrecue · May 15, 2012, 08:35 PM

In the earlier eras iron but in later eras oil becomes important strategically.

TheWilltoAct · May 16, 2012, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cain3456

Iron for me. You got horses? Gimme pikes and I'll take my chances.

I like this response, I had the same thought.

View Poll Results: What is your most important strategic resource?
Aluminum	1	0.51%
Coal	2	1.03%
Copper	42	21.54%
Elephant	11	5.64%
Horse	42	21.54%
Iron	69	35.38%
Marble	7	3.59%
Oil	14	7.18%
Stone	4	2.05%
Uranium	3	1.54%
Voters: 195. You may not vote on this poll

May 15, 2012, 06:03 AM	#1
Beerchugger Chieftain Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 76	*What is your* most important strategic resource?** If you could guarantee that you had one strategic resource close to your capital every game (meaning you are guaranteed to get it) which would it be? Note: I included elephants because they allow the building of War Elephants.

May 15, 2012, 06:10 AM	#2
lymond Synthetic Life Form Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 10,923	yep, ivory would be a strategic resource. Stone and Marble would not. Not sure about aluminum either, maybe it activates some late game units. I voted Horse. __________________ "Read, every day, something no one else is reading. Think, every day, something no one else is thinking. Do, every day, something no one else would be silly enough to do. It is bad for the mind to be always part of unanimity." Christopher Morley lymond's YT Channel - Watch me play Civ4 poorly / CFC GameOftheMonth(GOTM) Page / CFC Hall of Fame(HOF): HOF Forum CFC HOF Site - play games that matter

May 15, 2012, 06:39 AM	#4
shakabrade Praise Vivec! Join Date: May 2011 Location: Croatia Posts: 1,222	Horses. With them, every map is winnable in non-cheesy fashion. __________________ May you walk on warm sands.

May 15, 2012, 06:59 AM	#6
Seraiel Hill Archers are OP! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 1,585	Definately Iron, because for Iron, you can get Horses, for Horses, you don't get Iron. __________________ Wanna read some Writeups of Deity Games that made it into HoF? Replay #1 Huge Domination by 640 AD - Replay #2 Huge Domination with 1.4M Points - Replay #3 Coming closer Wastin - Replay #4 Slow and steady wins the race - Replay #5 A history of heroes - Replay #6 Short Story

May 15, 2012, 06:40 AM	#5
Colonel Mustard Condiment Pirate Mouse Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: England Posts: 95	I voted Iron. I only play OCCs and have to be able to build something other than Longbows and catapults. Next important would be Horse.

May 15, 2012, 07:02 AM	#7
TheMeInTeam GiftOfNukes Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Orlando Posts: 19,872	BFC horse chariot rushes are absolutely insane. I'd take them. Late game I'd take uranium obviously but that's not what this poll asks. BTW stone/marble unlock no military unit, however aluminum does (some of the modern/future era units require aluminum). __________________ - There is no "I" in team. There is no "we" either. There is a me. - Play Faster! - YouTube Civ Walkthroughs and Map Creation! - PolyCast Co-Host! Listen in! - Watch me play LIVE

May 15, 2012, 07:10 AM	#8
TheGambitWorm Chieftain Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 25	Horses, definitely.

May 15, 2012, 01:01 PM	#10
UnholyMudcrab Chieftain Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 33	Copper. Nothing beats an early-game axe rush.

May 15, 2012, 01:24 PM	#11
elmurcis Prince Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Latvia Posts: 365	Oil.. Game without Bombers and Fighters is boring

May 15, 2012, 02:05 PM	#12
UnforcedError Queen of Misclicks Join Date: May 2012 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 1,905	And yet another vote for horses. I personally love elephants but ivory is pretty rare compared to the other early game strategic resources.

May 15, 2012, 02:37 PM	#13
rah King Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 624	any resource that allows me to take the others through conquest

May 15, 2012, 04:19 PM	#14
Htadus A and L's dad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 2,647	This was a tough one. Horse? Copper? Copper, Horses......? Copper for now. __________________ Hurry up and wait. Monti - Prince Walk Through http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=466659

May 15, 2012, 05:35 PM	#15
migr8r Chieftain Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 23	Copper! Because I almost never, ever, EVER, get it. I consider it to be the rarest strategic resource in the game.

May 15, 2012, 05:40 PM	#16
plasmacannon Emperor Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lake Mary, Florida Posts: 1,123	hmmm... I jumped at Ivory, because I do like War Elephants, but if I had to wait until Ivory to get a unit other that archers and warriors, that would be a horrible game. After some thought, a game can be won or lost before War Elephants even becomes used. Certainly on Epic and Marathon games. I have been playing a game as Russia and I do not have Copper. My Iron was half way between me and America. I did have horse adjacent to my Capitol. I rushed America with Chariots and eliminated them by 1850 BC. If, I could switch my vote, I think, it would have to go into the Horse column. It can be a game changer early. Though a War Elephant with a Great General giving it +1 Movement from the Morale promotion, is nice. __________________ Civ4 TraitBuildingUnitTech Chart = http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=372058, Leader Picker = http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/refe...icker_bts.html, AI Behavior = http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpo...5&postcount=11 Know Your Enemy = http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=478563

May 15, 2012, 07:26 PM	#17
cain3456 Warlord Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 272	Iron for me. You got horses? Gimme pikes and I'll take my chances.

May 15, 2012, 07:45 PM	#18
Tlalynet Emperor Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,047	It's very hard to decide between horses and copper. Horses give a couple good early->Classical units. If I have Pigs\Cows\Sheep in the BFC and enough open land to make use of those 2 movements points horses are ideal. If I'm playing any militaristic but non-aggressive leader (like Cha, Cha loves horses) horses are ideal. If I can hit them before their culture pop's to tier 3 and instakill their capital horses are ideal. In most cases, copper is nicer though. Chopping is going to help you on >95% of map scripts. Copper lets you hard counter opponents with horses. Copper gives a higher base str unit. You can wage an axeman war vs axemen+any other ancient unit, but you can't wage a horse war vs any opponent spearmen. Copper works directly with the aggressive trait. Iron is tempting, but really if you can't war in the middle ages its not a big loss. Walls or walls+castles takes too much time to break down. Longbows+Cats+castles can defend against whatever is thrown at you before the Renaissance, and chain drafting muskets is viable not long after knights usually hit the scene. I suppose not having iron in the railroad era would be a disaster, but I've never had the displeasure, so it's kind of hard to say...

May 15, 2012, 08:35 PM	#19
reddishrecue Prince Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 519	In the earlier eras iron but in later eras oil becomes important strategically.

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