Peace Loving: Not Doing Anything?

Lyoncet · Jun 22, 2012, 12:09 PM

So the founder belief Peace Loving seems like it should be awesome once you spread your religion around a bit. Problem is, in my current playthrough, it seems not to be doing anything. When I spread the religion, my happiness never climbs (nor does it climb the next turn), and when I mouse over Happiness I don't see "

from religion" listed. Anyone else having this problem?

The wording of the belief is: Peace Loving: +1 Happiness for every 5 followers of this religion in non-enemy foreign cities. I've been meeting those criteria, spreading it in other civs' cities and in city-states, getting well over 5, sometimes over 15, followers, in civs that are generally at least neutral, usually friendly, and often that I even have Declarations of Friendship with. Anyone know what the problem could be? Here's a bunch of screenshots that illustrate the situation. (Also, I'm using Mac, which could potentially be an issue, but that's doubtful.)

Spoiler for Zoroastrianism:

Spoiler for Happiness Pre-Dow:

Spoiler for Paris:

Spoiler for Orleans:

Spoiler for Troyes:

Spoiler for Chartres:

Spoiler for Happiness Post-Dow:

pspboy7 · Jun 22, 2012, 02:21 PM

I find my happiness with peace-loving tends to plateau rather than climb much. Remember that happiness is competing with unhappiness throughout the game.

kanid99 · Jun 22, 2012, 06:21 PM

Same experience. Under the little smiley up top I was NOT getting +any happiness under religion for this policy - and I had more than a few cities with >5 followers -- no one seems to be noticing this or its just us!

Lyoncet · Jun 23, 2012, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pspboy7

I find my happiness with peace-loving tends to plateau rather than climb much. Remember that happiness is competing with unhappiness throughout the game.

Granted, but the problem is that I've found it literally does nothing. Not that it doesn't do as much later on. By checking happiness, declaring war on a civ with many followers in my religion, and then checking again, I'm demonstrating that it is having literally zero impact on my happiness.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kanid99

Same experience. Under the little smiley up top I was NOT getting +any happiness under religion for this policy - and I had more than a few cities with >5 followers -- no one seems to be noticing this or its just us!

Could you let me know if you're using Mac or PC? That would help with the troubleshooting. If it's Mac, we could narrow it down and also explain why most people don't seem to be having this trouble.

Anyways, since it seems there's little knowledge of that on this forum, and since we've had someone corroborate, could we get this moved to the Bugs forum?

DesolationRow23 · Jun 23, 2012, 09:18 PM

I'm also seeing the same problem, and I'm on a PC. I have multiple foreign cities with five or more followers, and I don't even have a religion line in my happiness breakdown. I just thought I was missing something, since this was my first game since buying Gods and Kings, but then I found this thread. Very frustrating.

Lloyd_Ortega · Jun 24, 2012, 01:47 PM

I got the same bug. Was even hesitating between Ceremony Burial and Peace Loving and chose Peace Loving.

Lyoncet · Jun 24, 2012, 02:45 PM

Can anybody actually confirm this working as intended? It's surprising to me how little discussion this has generated one way or another. Especially with how strong that belief seems to be. I mean, I'm getting ~75 gpt by early industrial with Tithe; that's a lot of happiness Peace Loving would give you!

Liex · Jun 24, 2012, 02:52 PM

I had this problem as well. I even googled something like "Peace Loving bug" and checked the bug lists...

The_J · Jun 24, 2012, 03:03 PM

Moderator Action: Moved to bug reports.

Save would be useful, I guess.

Camikaze · Jun 24, 2012, 07:11 PM

This is a known bug, so don't worry about a save if you can't find one. It's indeed not working.

AlpsStranger · Jun 25, 2012, 02:55 AM

This seems like a bool is borked somewhere. Do we have access to modding on that level?

This is one of the few really serious bugs ( for singleplayer anyhow ) so it would be nice if Thal could mod it or something.

GoodSarmatian · Jun 27, 2012, 12:02 PM

Title says it all.
I have Peace Loving as a founder belief and I don't get a happiness bonus. I've noly started spreading my religion, but I should at least get one or two

from it.

GoodSarmatian · Jun 27, 2012, 12:05 PM

Forgot to include the save:

The_J · Jun 27, 2012, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodSarmatian

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Moderator Action: Threads merged.

My god, so many bugs

. The thread has dropped within 2 days back to the middle of page 2

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Jun 22, 2012, 12:09 PM	#1
Lyoncet Emperor Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,494	Peace Loving: Not Doing Anything? So the founder belief Peace Loving seems like it should be awesome once you spread your religion around a bit. Problem is, in my current playthrough, it seems not to be doing anything. When I spread the religion, my happiness never climbs (nor does it climb the next turn), and when I mouse over Happiness I don't see " from religion" listed. Anyone else having this problem? The wording of the belief is: Peace Loving: +1 Happiness for every 5 followers of this religion in non-enemy foreign cities. I've been meeting those criteria, spreading it in other civs' cities and in city-states, getting well over 5, sometimes over 15, followers, in civs that are generally at least neutral, usually friendly, and often that I even have Declarations of Friendship with. Anyone know what the problem could be? Here's a bunch of screenshots that illustrate the situation. (Also, I'm using Mac, which could potentially be an issue, but that's doubtful.) Spoiler for Zoroastrianism: Spoiler for Happiness Pre-Dow: Spoiler for Paris: Spoiler for Orleans: Spoiler for Troyes: Spoiler for Chartres: Spoiler for Happiness Post-Dow: Attached Thumbnails __________________ After 2.5 years and nearly 1,200 posts signature-free, I present Problems and How to Fix Them. Last edited by Lyoncet; Jun 22, 2012 at 12:14 PM.

Jun 22, 2012, 06:21 PM	#3
kanid99 Chieftain Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3	Me too! Same experience. Under the little smiley up top I was NOT getting +any happiness under religion for this policy - and I had more than a few cities with >5 followers -- no one seems to be noticing this or its just us!

Jun 24, 2012, 02:45 PM	#7
Lyoncet Emperor Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,494	Can anybody actually confirm this working as intended? It's surprising to me how little discussion this has generated one way or another. Especially with how strong that belief seems to be. I mean, I'm getting ~75 gpt by early industrial with Tithe; that's a lot of happiness Peace Loving would give you! __________________ After 2.5 years and nearly 1,200 posts signature-free, I present Problems and How to Fix Them.

Jun 24, 2012, 02:52 PM	#8
Liex Prince Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Brasil Posts: 540	I had this problem as well. I even googled something like "Peace Loving bug" and checked the bug lists... __________________ "Only anthropophagy unites us. Socially. Economically. Philosophically. The world's only law. The disguised expression of all individualisms, of all collectivisms. Of all religions. Of all peace treaties." From "Cannibal Manifesto", by Oswald de Andrade.

Jun 24, 2012, 03:03 PM	#9
The_J Say No 2 Net Validations Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Germany / Netherlands Posts: 24,996 Images: 51	Moderator Action: Moved to bug reports. Save would be useful, I guess. __________________ Civ4-BtS-Mod "Mars, Now!" BtS: 18 Civs on a world map - and your choice, which! Steam eats the souls of little gamers!!!

Jun 22, 2012, 02:21 PM	#2
pspboy7 Prince Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 361	I find my happiness with peace-loving tends to plateau rather than climb much. Remember that happiness is competing with unhappiness throughout the game.

Jun 23, 2012, 09:18 PM	#5
DesolationRow23 Chieftain Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1	I'm also seeing the same problem, and I'm on a PC. I have multiple foreign cities with five or more followers, and I don't even have a religion line in my happiness breakdown. I just thought I was missing something, since this was my first game since buying Gods and Kings, but then I found this thread. Very frustrating.

Jun 24, 2012, 01:47 PM	#6
Lloyd_Ortega Chieftain Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 18	I got the same bug. Was even hesitating between Ceremony Burial and Peace Loving and chose Peace Loving.

Jun 24, 2012, 07:11 PM	#10
Camikaze Moderator Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney Posts: 17,717	This is a known bug, so don't worry about a save if you can't find one. It's indeed not working. __________________ Gods & Kings Introductory Guide

Jun 25, 2012, 02:55 AM	#11
AlpsStranger Security breeeeeaaaach! Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,608	This seems like a bool is borked somewhere. Do we have access to modding on that level? This is one of the few really serious bugs ( for singleplayer anyhow ) so it would be nice if Thal could mod it or something.

Jun 27, 2012, 12:02 PM	#12
GoodSarmatian Trusted Advisor Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany, The Horned City Posts: 5,221	Peace loving doesn't work Title says it all. I have Peace Loving as a founder belief and I don't get a happiness bonus. I've noly started spreading my religion, but I should at least get one or two from it. __________________ To plunder, to steal, to usurp under false titles they call democracy, and where they make a state-enforced monopoly they call it free market.

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