Fascism has come to Israel (but theres still hope)

[kochman]

Originally Posted by Formaldehyde

And how how exactly is "my grasp of English is superior to mine" even English?

There is a difference between an obvious typo such as mine was... and your routinely not knowing, and it shows... in your myriad posts. I'm not really surprised if you didn't realize that was a typo though... since you probably were looking it up in wikipedia as we sit here to see what it told you to think.

So you were now only referring to me? Then how do you explain this comment?

I wasn't referring to only you. However, I want to see who else you think I am referring to... guess you don't want to answer that though.

You don't need anybody's help to "paint" you as being far worse than "antisemitic" when it comes to the religion of Islam and the Middle East in general. It "is quite clear from your posting history".

Hahahaha, right. That's classic. Specifically calling out the Koran is now a racist thing to you.
Another word you fail to understand, I suppose. Not surprising at this point. Wake up Formy, or, better... keep going. It's entertaining.

Not only didn't I ever mention fascism, you are claiming anybody who are "constant complainers about Israel" are antisemitic, which is patently ridiculous. And it even refers to the subject bar, which I obviously didn't create and you clearly misinterpreted as well.

Hey, Captain Paranoia, not everything I post is about you...

[Formaldehyde]

I have to admit that English instruction has apparently changed substantially when I was in school if these now pass for proper examples:

Originally Posted by kochman

One person is an a-hole, let's use it to attack an entire nation of millions!
Anti-semitism (of the anti-Jew/Zion/Hebrew kind) has come to CFC (again)... and I'm afraid their isn't still hope.

Originally Posted by kochman

Ummm... it was well more than one A-hole in Nazi Germany...

Originally Posted by kochman

Well, then it was a context I was unaware of...
And, I appreciate threads like this in the end, because real anti-semites do come out of the woodworks... they can't resist the opportunity to uselessly bash Israel.

...oh, yeah, and my time teaching English.

Emphasis mine.

Or perhaps Kochman is teaching us all proper English using the technique of providing numerous bad examples. I still can't find "Ummm" in the dictionary. Is it a foreign word?

[JollyRoger]

Originally Posted by kochman

However, certain people who also didn't and uselessly outted themselves as jerks made my mistake worth it.

I must have missed those posts.

[kochman]

Originally Posted by Formaldehyde

Or perhaps Kochman is teaching us all proper English using the technique of constantly bad examples.

It would be consistent... not constant.
Figure it out... another of your myriad errors. Do my posts give you PTSD?

And, sorry if I make typos while I multi-task... I know what I mean... everyone does... If I spent more than a second posting a reply it would definitely be fine.

You just don't understand words and concepts... that's not fixable by just paying attention.

[Dreadnought]

There it goes! Catch it before it's too late!

[Borachio]

Originally Posted by Ailedhoo

Being a critic of the policies of the goverment of Israel is not anti-Semitic. Preventing the chance of speak about problems by using the term can in fact be seen as anti-democratic.

The issues of Israel and Palestine can only come to a needed conclustion with a co-opperative solution. The violent elerments... including the fascism and terrorism... must be denounced at the fullest will.

I am so waiting for this to happen. No sign of it yet. Perhaps after 100 years or so, they'll simply get fed up with violence.

I have a lot of sympathy for both sides.

But this is too serious. Hand me that cup of water/roll of tape. I'm a fascist democrat on the hunt for fun.

[ParkCungHee]

Originally Posted by Traitorfish

Go on?

Well, Wagner's anti-semitism, like just about everything about Wagner, was pretty ideosyncratic. He claimed Semitic culture was inferior because it was obsessed with the past, and dutiful repetition, and therefor couldn't produce any great art, and that this culture was dangerous to German culture. He didn't seem to believe there was any inherent flaw in Jewish persons however because he calls for Jews to abandon their Semitic Culture, and embrace a German one.

[civver_764]

Originally Posted by kochman

They get attacked quite disproportionately in my opinion. I'm entitled to voice my opinion on an opinion board, so, no, I won't quit. As for the anologic questions, they are lame, so I won't spend time on them.

How are they lame?

And if you look at the atrocious policies they have for the Palestinians + the trouble they're always causing in the Middle East + the amount of military and financial support they receive from the world superpower + the amount of support they receive from the Western World in general, I would say they aren't attacked nearly enough. So yes it is in a sense disproportionate.

Haven't see you target Israel specifically and over piddling incident, but I have seen others do it... if they want to give special derision to Israel, I will call them out for their hypocrisy in accepting way, way worse behavior from other countries because for some reason it has become PC to do so while it has also become PC to bash Israel and take up the cause celebre of Palestine... over all sorts of other injustices of the world that effect way more people in much harsher ways.

I'm probably one of the most anti-Israeli people on this board, fwiw. But I'd like to know, which "way, way worse behavior" are we accepting of?

[Formaldehyde]

Originally Posted by kochman

It would be consistent... not constant.

Actually, no it wouldn't. The former connotes that you always use improper English while the latter implies that you frequently provide bad examples on a regular basis.

Originally Posted by kochman

And, sorry if I make typos while I multi-task... I know what I mean... everyone does... If I spent more than a second posting a reply it would definitely be fine.

Right. Your incessant mistakes, frequent overuse of "...", and usage of non-existent words such as "Ummm" are "typos", while a tiny handful of grammatical errors on my part show I have "PTSD".

Originally Posted by civver_764

And if you look at the atrocious policies they have for the Palestinians + the trouble they're always causing in the Middle East + the amount of military and financial support they receive from the world superpower + the amount of support they receive from the Western World in general, I would say they aren't attacked nearly enough. So yes it is in a sense disproportionate.

I'm probably one of the most anti-Israeli people on this board, fwiw. But I'd like to know, which "way, way worse behavior" are we accepting of?

Indeed. How often does this absurd "antisemitism" charge have to emerge in most any discussion about Israel, especially when it comes from someone like Kochman with a clear prejudice against Islam.

[kochman]

Originally Posted by Formaldehyde

Actually, no it wouldn't. The former connotes that you always use improper English while the latter implies that you continually provide bad examples.

Right. Your incessant mistakes are "typos" while mine show I have "PTSD".

No, yours show you don't understand words and concepts.

Consistent = marked by harmony, regularity, or steady continuity
Constant = continually occurring (meaning, without stopping)

You consistently attack Israel on this board because you are constantly anti-semitic in your mind and think in such patterns.

I consistently make typos and am constantly against racism.

Anyhow, I'm done arguing with you for today...

[Save_Ferris]

Throwing a cup of water is fascism?

[taillesskangaru]

Originally Posted by Save_Ferris

Throwing a cup of water is fascism?

As much as throwing a roll of tape is.

It makes sense in the context.

[Formaldehyde]

Originally Posted by kochman

I consistently make typos and am constantly against racism.

Once again, you aren't consistent in the least with your "typos", which are actually grammatical errors. And you are "constantly" showing the latter clearly isn't true. Instead, you just falsely insinuate anybody who disagrees with you must be a "racist" or "anti-Semitic".

[kochman]

Originally Posted by Formaldehyde

At least you got the former part right while "constantly" showing the latter clearly isn't true with your incessant rants against Islam.

Wow... it just doesn't stop. How can I not respond to this latest idiocy?

Here is a fact for you to figure out.
ISLAM IS NOT A RACE.

Have the last word, as I know you must.

[holy king]

Originally Posted by Save_Ferris

Throwing a cup of water is fascism?

as jolly roger has pointed out it may as well be a sign of feudalism.

[civver_764]

Originally Posted by kochman

Wow... it just doesn't stop. How can I not respond to this latest idiocy?

You could just, you know, let it go. Like you said you were going to. Respond to my post, we were having a pretty lovely discussion

[Formaldehyde]

Originally Posted by kochman

Have the last word, as I know you must.

Oh, sweet irony.

Originally Posted by civver_764

You could just, you know, let it go. Like you said you were going to. Respond to my post, we were having a pretty lovely discussion

That wasn't a "discussion". It was a massacre.

What is funny is that we essentially have exactly the same opinions about Israel, but I'm the "anti-Semite" while you or anybody else who feels that way apparently isn't. That is, except for the OP and anybody who posted in this thread before Kochman did, which he now tries to claim isn't true.

[kochman]

Originally Posted by civver_764

And if you look at the atrocious policies they have for the Palestinians

OK... but, again, we have all sorts of similarly bad behavior out there... by governments...
Turks towards Kurdish, and other minorities...
Iran against any religion other than Islam...
Chinese against any religion pretty much, and little girls/forced abortions
Etc, etc, etc

+ the trouble they're always causing in the Middle East

They aren't causing trouble in the ME... they defend themselves and their existence from groups and nations that have adopted official platforms of annihilating them.

+ the amount of military and financial support they receive from the world superpower

So what? Many nations receive a lot. The US gives Egypt tons to remain peaceful with Israel (and keep the canal open of course) too... it's ok to dislike Egypt disproportionately then?

+ the amount of support they receive from the Western World in general

Really the USA... not so much Europe et al...

I would say they aren't attacked nearly enough. So yes it is in a sense disproportionate.

They aren't attacked enough? Go to Israel, witness a few rocket attacks or suicide bombings, almost always targetted at civilians, and tell me they aren't attacked enough.

[Formaldehyde]

Originally Posted by kochman

They aren't attacked enough? Go to Israel, witness a few rocket attacks or suicide bombings, almost always targetted at civilians, and tell me they aren't attacked enough.

I take it you have never been to Gaza or Lebanon, or even seen them on the news. This sort of rampant Zionism that tries to rationalize continual atrocities and apartheid on the part of the Israeli government on suicide bombings which stopped long ago and "rocket" attacks that kill an average of one person a year is far worse than clearly concocted "anti-Semism" will ever be.

[Ajidica]

In other news:

Wary of enraging the international community, yet eager to appease the settlers, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced last week that the Israeli government would add 300 homes here in Beit El and 500 more at settlements elsewhere in the West Bank.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/27/wo...pagewanted=all