planes relocating not realistic

redhulkz · Mar 07, 2003, 05:38 AM

i want to make my planes really fly to a city instead of relocating ( or teleporting) to it.

it doesnt make sense to relocating from one corner to another of the world in 1 turn.

so i try use civ2's style. i try to disable its relocating option and increasing the planes's operational range( beyond 8 ) , but i cant change both either.

any ideas

redhulkz · Mar 07, 2003, 05:49 AM

i think i can 'force' planes to fly to a city by uncheck the re-base option. how about increasing its operational range beyond 8 ? how ?

i increase its movement points to 16, it didnt work. the plane cant move out of the city at all

Nightfang · Mar 07, 2003, 06:08 AM

I am not sure how you think it is unrealistic, given that a turn by the time you get flight can be anywhere from 1 to 5 years in length. It only takes a matter of hours to get from one side of America to another, and less than a day to travel to somewhere on the other side of the globe. When you consider that when you rebase you cannot do anything else, that should alleviate the "realism" factor in a game that realism is not the focus in the first place.

Aircraft today can leave from the US, land in Diego Garcia on the other side of the world, and be performing bombing runs the next day.

Civ_Man_89 · Mar 07, 2003, 06:16 AM

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showth...threadid=15448

Here is a link to a thread that asked the same question.

redhulkz · Mar 07, 2003, 06:19 AM

hmmm... sound logic.

btw who know how to increase its operational range beyond 8 ?

and what are the difference between checking and unchecking the bombard effects option ?

dreadknought · Mar 07, 2003, 06:28 AM

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Originally posted by redhulkz
i think i can 'force' planes to fly to a city by uncheck the re-base option. how about increasing its operational range beyond 8 ? how ?

i increase its movement points to 16, it didnt work. the plane cant move out of the city at all

Sounds like you did not uncheck the immobile flag. I agree that all of your airforce should not be able to rebase at once. Movement in the game of units does not equate to the turn count of years going on. For that same reason I dont allow railroads till the final advance in the game. Any kind of instant movement is a type of exploit as the ai cant react to it properly....dread

redhulkz · Mar 07, 2003, 06:30 AM

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Originally posted by dreadknought

Sounds like you did not uncheck the immobile flag. I agree that all of your airforce should not be able to rebase at once. Movement in the game of units does not equate to the turn count of years going on. For that same reason I dont allow railroads till the final advance in the game. Any kind of instant movement is a type of exploit as the ai cant react to it properly....dread

u know how to increase planes operational range beyond 8 ?

Iulianus · Mar 07, 2003, 07:21 AM

I don't think planes are so far from reality as far as rebasing. Though bombing rate of stelths is a problem

Personaly I use stealth bombers with an infinite bombing range like ICBMs since they have (as far as I know) great fly intependence and to correct the situation i multiply 3 or 4 times their sield value since they are much more expencive from the jet fighters. I think us has about 60 stelths and each one costs about 60mil$(?) (I m not very sure about that)

dreadknought · Mar 07, 2003, 08:48 AM

Yes just go to the op range setting in the editor and add to it......dread

redhulkz · Mar 07, 2003, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dreadknought
Yes just go to the op range setting in the editor and add to it......dread

i tried that but i cant increase it beyond 8 . thats the problem

Illustrious · Mar 07, 2003, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by redhulkz

i tried that but i cant increase it beyond 8 . thats the problem

You must (like me) be using vanilla Civ, where it's hardcoded to max out at 8 - I'm told however that PTW allows you to go beyond 8.

Mar 07, 2003, 05:38 AM	#1
redhulkz Prince Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 346	planes relocating not realistic i want to make my planes really fly to a city instead of relocating ( or teleporting) to it. it doesnt make sense to relocating from one corner to another of the world in 1 turn. so i try use civ2's style. i try to disable its relocating option and increasing the planes's operational range( beyond 8 ) , but i cant change both either. any ideas

Mar 07, 2003, 05:49 AM	#2
redhulkz Prince Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 346	i think i can 'force' planes to fly to a city by uncheck the re-base option. how about increasing its operational range beyond 8 ? how ? i increase its movement points to 16, it didnt work. the plane cant move out of the city at all Last edited by redhulkz; Mar 07, 2003 at 06:01 AM.

Mar 07, 2003, 08:48 AM	#9
dreadknought timelord Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: DOCTOR WHO 2005 Posts: 1,111	op range Yes just go to the op range setting in the editor and add to it......dread __________________ http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=462887 Link to Realism Invictus MINI MOD Pages, 3 small files with value edits that help turn speed and add a bit of different flavor for fun. Huge thx to the civ modders !!! You keep the game alive Long Time Civer*I recommend* CIV4 (realism invictus) , MUST PLAY MOD...great balance,added content

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Mar 07, 2003, 06:08 AM	#3
Nightfang 'Pointy Stick' Scientist Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: I was never here... Posts: 217	I am not sure how you think it is unrealistic, given that a turn by the time you get flight can be anywhere from 1 to 5 years in length. It only takes a matter of hours to get from one side of America to another, and less than a day to travel to somewhere on the other side of the globe. When you consider that when you rebase you cannot do anything else, that should alleviate the "realism" factor in a game that realism is not the focus in the first place. Aircraft today can leave from the US, land in Diego Garcia on the other side of the world, and be performing bombing runs the next day.

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Civ_Man_89 Chieftain Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 17	http://forums.civfanatics.com/showth...threadid=15448 Here is a link to a thread that asked the same question.

Mar 07, 2003, 06:19 AM	#5
redhulkz Prince Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 346	hmmm... sound logic. btw who know how to increase its operational range beyond 8 ? and what are the difference between checking and unchecking the bombard effects option ?

Mar 07, 2003, 07:21 AM	#8
Iulianus Chieftain Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hellas Posts: 15	I don't think planes are so far from reality as far as rebasing. Though bombing rate of stelths is a problem Personaly I use stealth bombers with an infinite bombing range like ICBMs since they have (as far as I know) great fly intependence and to correct the situation i multiply 3 or 4 times their sield value since they are much more expencive from the jet fighters. I think us has about 60 stelths and each one costs about 60mil$(?) (I m not very sure about that)

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