Are you better at Civ3 than Civ2?

dojoboy · Apr 24, 2003, 12:28 PM

Wondering if there are any others out there like myself. I'm a much better Civ3 player than I was a Civ2 player. I think it has a lot to do w/ sites like CFC. I never surfed the web for strategies/techniques for Civ2 like I did for Civ3. The hardest level I won in Civ2 was Prince, in Civ3 its Emperor.

What's been your experience and why?

AgedOne · Apr 24, 2003, 12:57 PM

This is a strange question that I could have answered either way. I am sure that I am playing Civ3 to a much higher standard of planning / decision-making etc than I ever did when I was playing Civ2, but on the other hand I won many times on Diety level at Civ2. The highest level I've won at on Civ3 is Monarch.

At first I was sooo bad at Civ3, having not really thought about how to play the game differently. The last 6 months have seen me thinking hard, planning and making even what seem like the tiniest decisions count. But I'm still a low-grade player at Civ3 compared to most here. I know. GOTMs and QSCs have shown me that.

I reckon that if I went back to Civ2 and applied the same depth of thought that I use today to that game, I would be much better than I ever was.

Civ2 in my opinion was a much easier game to do well at, but that wasn't obvious until I'd played Civ3 badly.

Yoda Power · Apr 24, 2003, 01:01 PM

I was a much better civ2 player than a civ3 player, but thats because i dont play so much civ3 as i played civ2.

Padma · Apr 24, 2003, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AgedOne
I reckon that if I went back to Civ2 and applied the same depth of thought that I use today to that game, I would be much better than I ever was.

Civ2 in my opinion was a much easier game to do well at, but that wasn't obvious until I'd played Civ3 badly.

This probably says it all. When I played Civ2, I didn't even have a net connection. I never got very good, never even tried to play beyond "Prince" level. I did have fun though.

I can thank CFC for my being a better Civ3 player. (And to a lesser extent, Apolyton; after all, it was a link at Poly that brought me here!

) The strategy threads, the Succession Games, all the discussion, has all helped me to improve my game.

Zarn · Apr 24, 2003, 01:16 PM

Yes, because I didn't come to CFC yet, when I was a Civ2 player. CFC gave me a few tips that got me out of the lower levels of civ3. That's something I didn't do with Civ2 or Civ1.

Unregister · Apr 24, 2003, 02:57 PM

I never played Civ2, of course i'm not sure i wish i did...

I. Larkin · Apr 24, 2003, 03:21 PM

I played few times Civ2, not in my home, just to see what it is. Did not like it so to install at my computer. Civ3 is a greate in comparison to Civ2, human intellect here has so many points to apply!

bru · Apr 24, 2003, 03:45 PM

I find that I am about even. But I think I have more potential with Civ3 because of CFC.

Louis XXIV · Apr 24, 2003, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AgedOne
This is a strange question that I could have answered either way. I am sure that I am playing Civ3 to a much higher standard of planning / decision-making etc than I ever did when I was playing Civ2, but on the other hand I won many times on Diety level at Civ2. The highest level I've won at on Civ3 is Monarch.

At first I was sooo bad at Civ3, having not really thought about how to play the game differently. The last 6 months have seen me thinking hard, planning and making even what seem like the tiniest decisions count. But I'm still a low-grade player at Civ3 compared to most here. I know. GOTMs and QSCs have shown me that.

I reckon that if I went back to Civ2 and applied the same depth of thought that I use today to that game, I would be much better than I ever was.

Civ2 in my opinion was a much easier game to do well at, but that wasn't obvious until I'd played Civ3 badly.

I feel the exact same way

hbdragon88 · Apr 24, 2003, 05:05 PM

Never have played.

And since they are so different (read about hardcore civ2ers who couldn't the difference) I'm wondering even if I should buy Civ2. I would have to "unlearn" civ3 and if I wanted to go back, I would have to "unlearn" civ2.

Bacon King · Apr 24, 2003, 05:08 PM

I'm terrible at civ 2....

kittenOFchaos · Apr 24, 2003, 07:03 PM

Civ2 was simple, Civ3 is far more difficult.

I don't doubt I'm a better Civ3 player, but that the difficulty of Civ3 hides that fact whilst with Civ2 it was easy to excel.

Turner · Apr 24, 2003, 11:40 PM

Civ3. That cheat menu in Civ2 screwed me up. Plus I didn't have the advantage of CFC during my Civ2 days.

Edit: Oddly enough, Civ3 has made me a better Civ2 player, when I take the time to play Civ2. Weird, huh?

Neomega · Apr 25, 2003, 12:19 AM

I loved civ 2, and beat it on deity with raging hordes alot, (if I could get started).

Also, I modded civ II alot, which teaches alot about AI behavior.

Civ III I still have a lot of trouble on Emporer, allthough sometimes I think it is because I make too many stupid moves out of a desire for war or Empire, as opposed to my first games where I played the patient builder and did quite well....

tao · Apr 25, 2003, 01:15 AM

Never played Civ 2. Nor any other game. Except Tetris, Snakes, etc.

Sean Lindstrom · Apr 25, 2003, 01:41 AM

I simply haven't had the time for Civ3 I spent on its predecessor.

The Civ3 AI feels more realistic, and that tempts me to view it as an unpredictable thing of the real world (which is fun), rather than a dumb program to be coaxed and exploited like the Civ2 AI. So, I'm enjoying my unsophisticated games of Civ3, and don't look forward to mastery, and the loss of suspense.

DiamondzAndGunz · Apr 25, 2003, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Turner_727
Civ3. That cheat menu in Civ2 screwed me up. Plus I didn't have the advantage of CFC during my Civ2 days.

Exactly. That just about sums up what I wanted to say.

superslug · Apr 25, 2003, 02:03 AM

I think the reason I'm better at 3 than 2 is that I am so much more absorbed by 3. There's just something funny about toying with the French for a few millenia and then nuking the hello out of them just to make Joan's bald head make sense from supposed radiation poisoning!

Ribannah · Apr 25, 2003, 02:49 AM

Civ2 was too easy even at Deity. In the end, I only played OCC games, and that got boring, too.

Shabbaman · Apr 25, 2003, 03:00 AM

...but I'm way better with civ1!

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Apr 24, 2003, 12:28 PM	#1
dojoboy Tsalagi Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tansi, USA Posts: 4,101	Are you better at Civ3 than Civ2? Wondering if there are any others out there like myself. I'm a much better Civ3 player than I was a Civ2 player. I think it has a lot to do w/ sites like CFC. I never surfed the web for strategies/techniques for Civ2 like I did for Civ3. The hardest level I won in Civ2 was Prince, in Civ3 its Emperor. What's been your experience and why? __________________ *"And now, cried Max, let the wild rumpus start!" --- Maurice Sendak (Where the Wild Things Are)* *"According to your faith, be it unto you." --- Jesus (Matthew 9:29)* GOTM66 (PTW): Green Shield GOTM39 (Civ4): Purple Shield CivRev (DS) FC -> 0302-1438-9435

Apr 24, 2003, 01:01 PM	#3
Yoda Power ✫✫✫✫✫✫✫ Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 13,312 Images: 16	I was a much better civ2 player than a civ3 player, but thats because i dont play so much civ3 as i played civ2. __________________ Medieval European Mod II 1.3 \| Giant Earth Concept Map (256x256) \| East Asia Mod \| The YP Archives

Apr 24, 2003, 01:16 PM	#5
Zarn Le Républicain Catholique Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey/ Delaware Valley Posts: 11,595	Yes, because I didn't come to CFC yet, when I was a Civ2 player. CFC gave me a few tips that got me out of the lower levels of civ3. That's something I didn't do with Civ2 or Civ1. __________________ 4th Amendment of the United States Constitution: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Apr 24, 2003, 02:57 PM	#6
Unregister \|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\| Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gales Ferry Posts: 767	I never played Civ2, of course i'm not sure i wish i did... __________________ "Baad sphullin is OKay on the enternit." -Lefty Scaevola _______________________________________

Apr 24, 2003, 12:57 PM	#2
AgedOne Emperor Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 1,188	This is a strange question that I could have answered either way. I am sure that I am playing Civ3 to a much higher standard of planning / decision-making etc than I ever did when I was playing Civ2, but on the other hand I won many times on Diety level at Civ2. The highest level I've won at on Civ3 is Monarch. At first I was sooo bad at Civ3, having not really thought about how to play the game differently. The last 6 months have seen me thinking hard, planning and making even what seem like the tiniest decisions count. But I'm still a low-grade player at Civ3 compared to most here. I know. GOTMs and QSCs have shown me that. I reckon that if I went back to Civ2 and applied the same depth of thought that I use today to that game, I would be much better than I ever was. Civ2 in my opinion was a much easier game to do well at, but that wasn't obvious until I'd played Civ3 badly.

Apr 24, 2003, 03:21 PM	#7
I. Larkin Deity Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,321	I played few times Civ2, not in my home, just to see what it is. Did not like it so to install at my computer. Civ3 is a greate in comparison to Civ2, human intellect here has so many points to apply! __________________ Увы, в сетях цивилизации мы одиноки, как карась в канализации. (И. Губерман) [Unfortunately in Civilization's net we are lonly as European Carp in sanitation pipe] (Sorta translation...)

Apr 24, 2003, 03:45 PM	#8
bru Prince Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Victoria Canada Posts: 390	I find that I am about even. But I think I have more potential with Civ3 because of CFC.

Apr 24, 2003, 05:05 PM	#10
hbdragon88 haunted by blackness Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: somewhere Posts: 3,745	Never have played. And since they are so different (read about hardcore civ2ers who couldn't the difference) I'm wondering even if I should buy Civ2. I would have to "unlearn" civ3 and if I wanted to go back, I would have to "unlearn" civ2.

Apr 24, 2003, 05:08 PM	#11
Bacon King Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 1,091	I'm terrible at civ 2.... __________________ BK is back, if anyone remembers me.

Apr 24, 2003, 07:03 PM	#12
kittenOFchaos Deity Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Gidea Park, Essex, England Posts: 6,703	Civ2 was simple, Civ3 is far more difficult. I don't doubt I'm a better Civ3 player, but that the difficulty of Civ3 hides that fact whilst with Civ2 it was easy to excel. __________________ I play under the name DeviousDevil, but I've retired from Civ. I was a member of GOD, twice CCC champions and formerly the best Civ4 Clan in the World and also played with KC, MUD and A. I am a former KAC Tournament Champion The honeymoon period for Civ V is over I'm back to playing Alpha Centauri

Apr 24, 2003, 11:40 PM	#13
Turner Deity Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Randomistan Posts: 25,973	Civ3. That cheat menu in Civ2 screwed me up. Plus I didn't have the advantage of CFC during my Civ2 days. Edit: Oddly enough, Civ3 has made me a better Civ2 player, when I take the time to play Civ2. Weird, huh?

Apr 25, 2003, 12:19 AM	#14
Neomega Deity Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 11,261	I loved civ 2, and beat it on deity with raging hordes alot, (if I could get started). Also, I modded civ II alot, which teaches alot about AI behavior. Civ III I still have a lot of trouble on Emporer, allthough sometimes I think it is because I make too many stupid moves out of a desire for war or Empire, as opposed to my first games where I played the patient builder and did quite well....

Apr 25, 2003, 01:15 AM	#15
tao Deity Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 2,829	Never played Civ 2. Nor any other game. Except Tetris, Snakes, etc. __________________ resistance is futile

Apr 25, 2003, 01:41 AM	#16
Sean Lindstrom Deity Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: By the Pacific Posts: 4,274	I simply haven't had the time for Civ3 I spent on its predecessor. The Civ3 AI feels more realistic, and that tempts me to view it as an unpredictable thing of the real world (which is fun), rather than a dumb program to be coaxed and exploited like the Civ2 AI. So, I'm enjoying my unsophisticated games of Civ3, and don't look forward to mastery, and the loss of suspense.

Apr 25, 2003, 02:03 AM	#18
superslug Still hatin' on Khan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Farm Posts: 11,081	I think the reason I'm better at 3 than 2 is that I am so much more absorbed by 3. There's just something funny about toying with the French for a few millenia and then nuking the hello out of them just to make Joan's bald head make sense from supposed radiation poisoning! __________________ Kamikaze Watermelons Pwn

Apr 25, 2003, 02:49 AM	#19
Ribannah Fighter Druid Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Castle Gobs Posts: 2,194	Civ2 was too easy even at Deity. In the end, I only played OCC games, and that got boring, too. __________________ *If you have no feet, don't walk on fire* Project Lead of the Might and Magic Tribute game Castle Gobs GOTM Queen of Speed

Apr 25, 2003, 03:00 AM	#20
Shabbaman rebuffing the rebels Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: the new civduelzone.com! Posts: 3,577	...but I'm way better with civ1! __________________ "Our words are backed with NUCLEAR WEAPONS!"

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