What Maps?

dalgo · May 04, 2003, 07:02 PM

What maps do you like to play?

I've only played the Americas map a couple of times, I prefer random maps because I like to explore and every map is different.

I also play occasionally on a map I made myself. It has 4 islands opposite the 4 starting positions, each carefully designed to give ideal city sites with the best balance of natural resources. The only trouble is I know where everything is of course so I don't get the fun of exploring like I do on a random map.

Matrix · May 05, 2003, 06:11 AM

How do you make maps?!?

dalgo · May 05, 2003, 05:23 PM

In your Colonization folder there is a program called mapedit.exe. Run that and it will start up the Colonization Map Editor.

If you start a new map it is all water and you 'paint' in all the islands, continents, forests, rivers etc that you want.

The map grid is 60 (wide) by 70 (deep) and it is a good idea to plan your map in advance on graph paper.

Matrix · May 06, 2003, 04:37 AM

I don't have it! Could you (zip and) upload the editor perhaps? At the bottom of this page (under the advertisement) there is a link "Upload File". I'd appreciate it very much!

dalgo · May 06, 2003, 08:20 AM

Done. It is in the upload4 file, name is Mapedit.zip. I also included a couple of text files associated with the Editor. Let me know if you can run it OK.

I checked back to see where I got the Map Editor from originally and it was part of the Version 3.0 patch - which I still have if you want that as well.

Matrix · May 06, 2003, 02:37 PM

Yeah, it works!!

Thanks a lot! I don't know what version of Colonization I have but it's probably ok.

covok48 · Nov 20, 2003, 08:30 PM

Wait, what happened to the link?

Achinz · Mar 09, 2004, 11:01 PM

I too like random maps because of the greater challenge in unfamilar terrain. I like the exploration aspect of the game. A third party map editor utiltiy (which works on save game files) offers the ability to edit an existing game map - useful for scenarios.

Legions4Ever · Mar 10, 2004, 04:15 PM

Can you please post that link again!!!!!???? I would really like that editor!

dalgo · Mar 10, 2004, 06:17 PM

OK - I have uploaded the file to upload6. The map editor is MAPEDIT.zip (73 kb). I have also uploaded the Colonization version 3.0 patch which fixes a lot of bugs and also contains the map editor. That is COLV30.zip (392 kb).

Legions4Ever · Mar 10, 2004, 06:21 PM

where is the link dalgo??? also good to see you again!

Legions4Ever · Mar 10, 2004, 06:26 PM

what is upload6? that is probably a noob question also

dalgo · Mar 10, 2004, 08:20 PM

Click on 'Upload File' at bottom right of this screen, then on 'View new Upload Folder 6'.

Matrix · Mar 13, 2004, 02:10 PM

Here's the file. Makes it a lot easier, doesn't it?

I've made a map myself but haven't figured out (yet) how to place resources, Indians and starting locations. Nor do I know how to play it.

But I did notice I only had 2.25. Could that be the reason? Anyway, updated now. Let's try again.

dalgo · Mar 13, 2004, 04:18 PM

As far as I know you can't place resources and indians on the map, they are placed randomly when you start the game (while you are looking at the pretty pictures of your ship leaving the dock). You are also given one of the 4 possible starting locations at random.

Matrix · Mar 14, 2004, 01:19 PM

Resources are random. But Indians aren't.

It's said in MAPEDIT.TXT:

Code:

Normally, the game will place indian villages randomly.  It is possible,
however, to preassign the general locations of specific tribes if you
want to create a historical scenario.  Create a file with the same name
as your map, but with the extension .MPP (if your map is CARIB.MP, then
create CARIB.MPP).  Use the file TRIBE.TXT, which defines the indian
locations for the America map, as your model.  Do not place more than
84 indian villages.

I'm already playing on a homemade map. I've got a fictive country, and made a map of this, pretending it's a whole continent (while in 'reality' it's no more than 350 km long). I've transformed every province into an Indian tribe.

dalgo · Mar 15, 2004, 02:39 PM

Straland looks like a great map Matrix. Can you upload it so I can try it out.

Legions4Ever · Mar 15, 2004, 02:49 PM

thanks matrix!

Matrix · Mar 15, 2004, 04:33 PM

No problem, Legions4Ever.

And sure, dalgo.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/STRALAND.ZIP

Concerning shape it actually isn't that much different from America: two land masses connected by just a narrow bottleneck. And a few small islands in front of them.

Have fun!

dalgo · Mar 26, 2004, 11:44 PM

Thanks for the map. I've just finished a game on it. Good fun.

May 04, 2003, 07:02 PM	#1
dalgo King Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 881	What Maps? What maps do you like to play? I've only played the Americas map a couple of times, I prefer random maps because I like to explore and every map is different. I also play occasionally on a map I made myself. It has 4 islands opposite the 4 starting positions, each carefully designed to give ideal city sites with the best balance of natural resources. The only trouble is I know where everything is of course so I don't get the fun of exploring like I do on a random map.

May 05, 2003, 06:11 AM	#2
Matrix Deity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Groningen, Netherlands Posts: 5,547 Images: 1	How do you make maps?!? __________________ DDPP, mother of all PBEM's: Log & Common page I hate long posts.

May 06, 2003, 04:37 AM	#4
Matrix Deity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Groningen, Netherlands Posts: 5,547 Images: 1	I don't have it! Could you (zip and) upload the editor perhaps? At the bottom of this page (under the advertisement) there is a link "Upload File". I'd appreciate it very much! __________________ DDPP, mother of all PBEM's: Log & Common page I hate long posts.

May 06, 2003, 02:37 PM	#6
Matrix Deity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Groningen, Netherlands Posts: 5,547 Images: 1	Yeah, it works!! Thanks a lot! I don't know what version of Colonization I have but it's probably ok. __________________ DDPP, mother of all PBEM's: Log & Common page I hate long posts.

Nov 20, 2003, 08:30 PM	#7
covok48 I Farted! AHAHAHAHA Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Once A Texan...Always A Texan! Posts: 1,084	Wait, what happened to the link? __________________ "Freedom is not the right to do as you please, but the liberty to do as you ought." "All Your Base Are Belong To Us!"

May 05, 2003, 05:23 PM	#3
dalgo King Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 881	In your Colonization folder there is a program called mapedit.exe. Run that and it will start up the Colonization Map Editor. If you start a new map it is all water and you 'paint' in all the islands, continents, forests, rivers etc that you want. The map grid is 60 (wide) by 70 (deep) and it is a good idea to plan your map in advance on graph paper.

May 06, 2003, 08:20 AM	#5
dalgo King Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 881	Done. It is in the upload4 file, name is Mapedit.zip. I also included a couple of text files associated with the Editor. Let me know if you can run it OK. I checked back to see where I got the Map Editor from originally and it was part of the Version 3.0 patch - which I still have if you want that as well.

Mar 09, 2004, 11:01 PM	#8
Achinz Hermit of Huangshan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: World's most livable city Posts: 2,250	I too like random maps because of the greater challenge in unfamilar terrain. I like the exploration aspect of the game. A third party map editor utiltiy (which works on save game files) offers the ability to edit an existing game map - useful for scenarios.

Mar 10, 2004, 04:15 PM	#9
Legions4Ever Chieftain Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rome Posts: 84	Can you please post that link again!!!!!???? I would really like that editor! __________________ To my way of thinking, there is nothing that cant be cured with a big ol steaming pot of baked beans........except maybe bean fever Jack Handy

Mar 10, 2004, 06:17 PM	#10
dalgo King Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 881	OK - I have uploaded the file to upload6. The map editor is MAPEDIT.zip (73 kb). I have also uploaded the Colonization version 3.0 patch which fixes a lot of bugs and also contains the map editor. That is COLV30.zip (392 kb).

Mar 10, 2004, 06:21 PM	#11
Legions4Ever Chieftain Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rome Posts: 84	where is the link dalgo??? also good to see you again! __________________ To my way of thinking, there is nothing that cant be cured with a big ol steaming pot of baked beans........except maybe bean fever Jack Handy

Mar 10, 2004, 06:26 PM	#12
Legions4Ever Chieftain Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rome Posts: 84	what is upload6? that is probably a noob question also __________________ To my way of thinking, there is nothing that cant be cured with a big ol steaming pot of baked beans........except maybe bean fever Jack Handy

Mar 10, 2004, 08:20 PM	#13
dalgo King Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 881	Click on 'Upload File' at bottom right of this screen, then on 'View new Upload Folder 6'.

Mar 13, 2004, 02:10 PM	#14
Matrix Deity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Groningen, Netherlands Posts: 5,547 Images: 1	Here's the file. Makes it a lot easier, doesn't it? I've made a map myself but haven't figured out (yet) how to place resources, Indians and starting locations. Nor do I know how to play it. But I did notice I only had 2.25. Could that be the reason? Anyway, updated now. Let's try again. __________________ DDPP, mother of all PBEM's: Log & Common page I hate long posts. Last edited by Matrix; Mar 13, 2004 at 02:13 PM.

Mar 13, 2004, 04:18 PM	#15
dalgo King Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 881	As far as I know you can't place resources and indians on the map, they are placed randomly when you start the game (while you are looking at the pretty pictures of your ship leaving the dock). You are also given one of the 4 possible starting locations at random.

Mar 14, 2004, 01:19 PM	#16
Matrix Deity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Groningen, Netherlands Posts: 5,547 Images: 1	Resources are random. But Indians aren't. It's said in MAPEDIT.TXT: Code: Normally, the game will place indian villages randomly. It is possible, however, to preassign the general locations of specific tribes if you want to create a historical scenario. Create a file with the same name as your map, but with the extension .MPP (if your map is CARIB.MP, then create CARIB.MPP). Use the file TRIBE.TXT, which defines the indian locations for the America map, as your model. Do not place more than 84 indian villages. I'm already playing on a homemade map. I've got a fictive country, and made a map of this, pretending it's a whole continent (while in 'reality' it's no more than 350 km long). I've transformed every province into an Indian tribe. __________________ DDPP, mother of all PBEM's: Log & Common page I hate long posts.

Mar 15, 2004, 02:39 PM	#17
dalgo King Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 881	Straland looks like a great map Matrix. Can you upload it so I can try it out.

Mar 15, 2004, 02:49 PM	#18
Legions4Ever Chieftain Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rome Posts: 84	thanks matrix! __________________ To my way of thinking, there is nothing that cant be cured with a big ol steaming pot of baked beans........except maybe bean fever Jack Handy

Mar 15, 2004, 04:33 PM	#19
Matrix Deity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Groningen, Netherlands Posts: 5,547 Images: 1	No problem, Legions4Ever. And sure, dalgo. http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/STRALAND.ZIP Concerning shape it actually isn't that much different from America: two land masses connected by just a narrow bottleneck. And a few small islands in front of them. Have fun! __________________ DDPP, mother of all PBEM's: Log & Common page I hate long posts.

Mar 26, 2004, 11:44 PM	#20
dalgo King Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 881	Thanks for the map. I've just finished a game on it. Good fun.

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