The Great City of Gorina

Cyc · May 13, 2003, 10:34 PM

Welcome to the great city of Gorina. Great? you say...yes, great.

We may be a small city at the moment, but we will be the stepping stone that carries the nation of Fanatica to the future. Again, welcome, I am Cyc. As mayor of Gorina, I invite you to stay awhile, or possibly even move here from Noshuret. We have all the comforts of the Capital plus a flowing river, with which to bring us commerce (and take away other things

). The hills and mountains are sure to be filled with minerals that will make us a very productive city. At first our plans are to be a wiegh station for Settler groups as they pass through or originate in Gorina. Our citizens will fill the surrounding bountiful valley and hills, making this area a thriving community. Again, welcome.

Citizens of Gorina
Cyc - Mayor
Rik Meleet - Domestic Leader
CivGeneral - Former President
donsig - Former Chief Justice, Former President
disorganizer - the enlightened
Isaac_Newton - Head of Research and Development
Panzer
Sir John
Donovan Zoi - Former President
FortyJ - Former President

City Motto: ROME SWEET ROME
Tip of the hat goes out to Rik Meleet.

Cyc · May 13, 2003, 10:34 PM

Shown above are some stats from Gorina, and below is a birds-eye view of our young city.

Cyc · May 13, 2003, 10:35 PM

As first order of business, I'd like to address the discussion in the citizen's sub-forum about a Worker being produced in our city next. I have to agree with my esteemed colleague Donovan Zoi. A Settler group should be our first concern. If we switch to a Settler now, it can be complete in 10 turns by placing the next laborer on the roaded hill. Then we can start on a Warrior/ Worker/Warrior/Settler plan. I believe we need to get the next city up and running as soon as possible.

Cyc · May 14, 2003, 07:21 PM

After looking at the save for Tuesday chat, I thought we had 26 turns for a granary, but now that I look at the pic update, the shield box says 23, although the map pic says 16

.

EDIT: First pic replaced (and a second one added).

Anyway, I still agree with DZ about popping out another Settler before we start building anything else. 'Course I'm only the Mayor. If we switch the worker off the grasslands to the roaded hill, we can have our fourth Settler in 6 turns, then we can build whatever without having to worry about growth problems or being behind in the city race. I think waiting all these turns before we can even begin a new Settler is the wrong way to go about it.

Donovan Zoi · May 14, 2003, 11:07 PM

Congratulations, Mayor Cyc, and another fine job on this thread! It is comforting to know that Gorina will be in such good hands.

Thank you for noting my comments from the Citizen's Forum. I do believe that early, peaceful expansion can help us greatly and that means getting out settlers as soon as possible. Founding cities will also help to clear up "fog of war" issues by removing more shaded areas of the map.

From the perfect timing file, I also noticed that switching from that grassland to the 1-1-1 hill will give us growth in 6 turns. This matches nicely your projection of 6 turns to build the settler by making this switch.

Sounds like a grand slam to me.

Would you care to take this info the Governor?

Cyc · May 15, 2003, 12:19 AM

No, thank you DZ, for backing up my production claim. The growth in six matched the production in six, giving our earliest deliver date. I have already informed the Governor of the schedule and hope that he accepts our advice.

Quoting DZ:
It is comforting to know that Gorina will be in such good hands.
____________________________________

I swear I don't know what happened to that first pic, cosmic interference during the cyber transfer, who knows. But i've replaced it with a fresh copy, plus a pic showing the change to a Settler with the laborer moved. I'm sure the Governor is aware of this situation already, at least I hope so.

Rik Meleet · May 15, 2003, 06:00 AM

I would like to build my house in Gorina. Cyc would you do me the honor of allowing me to live in Gorina? I will make it my home town, heck my birthtown even... I will never RIOT or Rebel, unless some other civ, heaven forbid, will take control of Gorina, then I'll be the fiercest Resistor of Gorina until our Glorious Legions will reclaim what is rightfully ours!
I will work the plains and hills, the grasslands and forests, Pick up arms, build libraries, temples and Wonders, assist in research and pay my taxes dutifully, for the greater glory of Fanatica in general and Gorina in special.

P.S. Are the landprices affordable ? Else I won't come.

Cyc · May 15, 2003, 06:16 AM

Yes, please Rik Meleet, come to Gorina. We will be proud to have you as a resident. It's good that you acted quickly as the Despot's land values are increasing as we speak. Pick a spot, any spot. You sound like an excellent citizen. If you'd like, I can make you administrator of Worker Relations. Maybe you could keep me informed of the happiness of our Workers, or which section of our city needs more work done to it. You never know, it could look good on your resume'.

In any case, welcome.

Cyc · May 16, 2003, 07:12 AM

After a brief discussion, Rik Meleet has accepted the position of the Minister of Worker Relations for the great city of Gorina. Rik Meleet will be an advisor to the Mayor, helping us keep focus on the needs of our citizens. This could be considered an assistant Mayor position. Please join me in welcoming Rik Meleet.

Rik Meleet · May 16, 2003, 03:44 PM

I thank you for the honor and humbly accept.

Donovan Zoi · May 16, 2003, 04:08 PM

Congratulations, Rik Meleet! You should know that the good mayor takes Worker Relations very seriously. Those were the days, eh, Cyc?

I would be interested in having a second hut here in Gorina. Unfortunately, I have been spending way to much time in the capital trying to make myself heard on issues that face our great nation, so my main home must remain there for now. But, hey, we did get that Settler pushed through.

Please feel free to notify me if you feel you are not being properly heard on any issue, and I will be the squeaky wheel.

Cyc · May 16, 2003, 07:38 PM

Thank you, DZ.

Yes, those were the days. And great work on the Settler issue. I'm sure you were the driving factor that got it pushed through. * Cyc raises his glass * Kudos to Donovan Zoi.

Until you can find time to Build a home here in Gorina, know that there will be a room for you here at the Gorina Palace.

CivGeneral · May 16, 2003, 08:56 PM

I would like to settle and Build my home in this city. If it would be possible, could I be the National Guard Commander or sonething related to the Military

. (Since I am the Military Leader

)

Cyc · May 17, 2003, 12:15 AM

The City of Gorina is honored to have the Military Leader's presence here. There is no more secure feeling than knowing you command the Armed Forces from Gorina. We will walk safely through our streets with the knowledge they are well protected. Welcome, CivGeneral. Thank you for choosing Gorina.

Sir John · May 17, 2003, 02:54 AM

@Cyc: Please move me permanently into Gorina. I like Gorina and as several of my rpg charcs live here, so will I...

Cyc · May 17, 2003, 03:49 AM

You got it Sir John. We were just waiting for an official post here by you. Some of our citizens have listed Gorina in the DG3 Citizen Registry as their Official Home, but I like to see some kind of post in this thread.

We are very glad to have you join our city. Please feel free to join in all the future events and to speak your mind about Gorina policy at any time. Again, welcome.

Rik Meleet · May 18, 2003, 02:05 PM

As Minister of Worker Relations of the great city of Gorina I advise our Mayor to use the roaded hill as second laborer spot, until we improve more river-side tiles. No danger of unhappiness when we hit size 2 or even size 3. We'll finish our granary in around 13 turns, depending on where, what and how many workers inprove our tiles. We need our granary for food and room for our new inhabitants. There is lillte else to advise upon, so I can dedicate my time to welcoming our new citizens; welcome Sir John, Civ general and his soldiers.

Cyc · May 18, 2003, 07:32 PM

Thank you, Rik Meleet. I agree with you totally. In fact, in my last proposal, I recomended that the laborer be put on the roaded hill. This would cut down on tranportation time

. But the President thought it would be better to place the laborer in the hills with the river. Same output, really (1-1-1). With all the other adjustsments the Prez has to do, it may not be worth the effort to request a change at this time.

Excellent Report, overall. Keep up the good work, Sir.

Donovan Zoi · May 19, 2003, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyc

Until you can find time to Build a home here in Gorina, know that there will be a room for you here at the Gorina Palace.

Thank you, Cyc, for your most generous hospitality. While I will be passing through from time to time, I promise to keep my intrusions to a minimum. However, I must admit that the comfort at your Palace far exceeds that of my little makeshift dwelling by the river.

Now for the business that brings me here. I just wanted to let you know that I have put in a request to the Governor for another Settler out of Gorina once the Granary is built. I hope that this meets with your approval.

My reasoning for this is that we are already falling behind our rivals in city production. Egypt has 6 cities; America and Greece have 5. I realize the importance of the Temple in regards to bringing the Iron within our radius, but we can use a worker in the interim if we need to.

Please let me know what you think.

Rik Meleet · May 20, 2003, 02:11 PM

Open letter of advice.

Dear Lord Mayor of the great city of Gorina; Great you say? ...yes, great; kind suppier of room for new citizens, granter of "Minister of Worker Relations of the great city of Gorina; Great you say? ...yes, great;" titels, keeper of priceless blackbirds and proud owner of the "The 1st Cultural Minister" medal of honor, Lord Cyc.

I've analysed the situation of the great city of Gorina; Great you say? ...yes, great; and my conclusions are that we have a grand future.

I predict that next turn we will increase our city-size by 50%. Our granary can be finished in 4 turns, by using laborers on the roaded hill-tile and the currently-worked-on plain-tile after we grow for 2 turns and then change the laborers from the roaded hill and the plains to 2 unworked grassland tiles. Unfortunately my corruption-fighting experience makes me fear that choosing just 1 of the proposed tiles will not suffiece as 1 shield will be stolen by corruption. It seems there is a slight tendency amongst some people living in this Great city of Gorina; Great you say? ...yes, great; to put their personal gains above that of the Great city of Gorina; Great you say? ...yes, great; and Fanatica. In due time we will reduce the corruption, but we'll not be able to do that just yet. So I advise to just allow them to have it and allow them to enjoy the shield. Let's pray that Jupiter will be forgiving for them...

This tile-use will lead to no gain in food for those 2 turns, but will reduce granary-production-time by 1. If we don't increase shield production by 2 we will also build 1 shield too much and it will be lost as we only need 60 shields for our granary, not 61...

When the workers finish roading the plain-tile either build roads on the grassland tiles, or irrigate the plains or build a road over the iron resource just outside our borders. The latter has no short term gain as the Gorinians are working hard and have no time to build up culture, but this helps connecting Nar to our road-net in future.

I also advise to discuss the current build queue, Granary - Settler - Warrior - Temple with all Citizens of Fanatica. I know you are wise beyond wise, but let's not deny all Fanticans a say in their future. I've heard this is called Demog..., err no Demok..., err no Denoc... err Temocra... err .... err ... just call it "all-Fanaticans-decide-despotism".

I'm asking your decision on this, dear Lord Cyc (or Cycus / Cycius).

Yours faithfully,

Your loyal advisor, Minister of Worker Relations of the great city of Gorina; Great you say? ...yes, great

Rik Meleet

### Daymohkrasee ?? ... err no. Demucra... no that's not it. Hang on, I'll think I'll get it right in a few thousand years...

May 13, 2003, 10:34 PM	#1
Cyc Looking for the door... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Behind you Posts: 14,735	The Great City of Gorina Welcome to the great city of Gorina. Great? you say...yes, great. We may be a small city at the moment, but we will be the stepping stone that carries the nation of Fanatica to the future. Again, welcome, I am Cyc. As mayor of Gorina, I invite you to stay awhile, or possibly even move here from Noshuret. We have all the comforts of the Capital plus a flowing river, with which to bring us commerce (and take away other things ). The hills and mountains are sure to be filled with minerals that will make us a very productive city. At first our plans are to be a wiegh station for Settler groups as they pass through or originate in Gorina. Our citizens will fill the surrounding bountiful valley and hills, making this area a thriving community. Again, welcome. Citizens of Gorina Cyc - Mayor Rik Meleet - Domestic Leader CivGeneral - Former President donsig - Former Chief Justice, Former President disorganizer - the enlightened Isaac_Newton - Head of Research and Development Panzer Sir John Donovan Zoi - Former President FortyJ - Former President City Motto: ROME SWEET ROME Tip of the hat goes out to Rik Meleet. __________________ There is a town in north Ontario, With dream comfort memory to spare, And in my mind I still need a place to go, All my changes were there. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes. Last edited by Cyc; Oct 14, 2003 at 07:13 AM.

May 13, 2003, 10:34 PM	#2
Cyc Looking for the door... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Behind you Posts: 14,735	Shown above are some stats from Gorina, and below is a birds-eye view of our young city. __________________ There is a town in north Ontario, With dream comfort memory to spare, And in my mind I still need a place to go, All my changes were there. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes. Last edited by Cyc; May 15, 2003 at 12:51 AM.

May 13, 2003, 10:35 PM	#3
Cyc Looking for the door... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Behind you Posts: 14,735	As first order of business, I'd like to address the discussion in the citizen's sub-forum about a Worker being produced in our city next. I have to agree with my esteemed colleague Donovan Zoi. A Settler group should be our first concern. If we switch to a Settler now, it can be complete in 10 turns by placing the next laborer on the roaded hill. Then we can start on a Warrior/ Worker/Warrior/Settler plan. I believe we need to get the next city up and running as soon as possible. __________________ There is a town in north Ontario, With dream comfort memory to spare, And in my mind I still need a place to go, All my changes were there. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes. Last edited by Cyc; May 14, 2003 at 07:24 PM.

May 14, 2003, 07:21 PM	#4
Cyc Looking for the door... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Behind you Posts: 14,735	Update After looking at the save for Tuesday chat, I thought we had 26 turns for a granary, but now that I look at the pic update, the shield box says 23, although the map pic says 16 . EDIT: First pic replaced (and a second one added). Anyway, I still agree with DZ about popping out another Settler before we start building anything else. 'Course I'm only the Mayor. If we switch the worker off the grasslands to the roaded hill, we can have our fourth Settler in 6 turns, then we can build whatever without having to worry about growth problems or being behind in the city race. I think waiting all these turns before we can even begin a new Settler is the wrong way to go about it. __________________ There is a town in north Ontario, With dream comfort memory to spare, And in my mind I still need a place to go, All my changes were there. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes. Last edited by Cyc; May 15, 2003 at 12:54 AM.

May 15, 2003, 12:19 AM	#6
Cyc Looking for the door... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Behind you Posts: 14,735	No, thank you DZ, for backing up my production claim. The growth in six matched the production in six, giving our earliest deliver date. I have already informed the Governor of the schedule and hope that he accepts our advice. Quoting DZ: It is comforting to know that Gorina will be in such good hands. ____________________________________ I swear I don't know what happened to that first pic, cosmic interference during the cyber transfer, who knows. But i've replaced it with a fresh copy, plus a pic showing the change to a Settler with the laborer moved. I'm sure the Governor is aware of this situation already, at least I hope so. __________________ There is a town in north Ontario, With dream comfort memory to spare, And in my mind I still need a place to go, All my changes were there. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes. Last edited by Cyc; May 15, 2003 at 12:45 AM.

May 14, 2003, 11:07 PM	#5
Donovan Zoi The Return Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,960	Congratulations, Mayor Cyc, and another fine job on this thread! It is comforting to know that Gorina will be in such good hands. Thank you for noting my comments from the Citizen's Forum. I do believe that early, peaceful expansion can help us greatly and that means getting out settlers as soon as possible. Founding cities will also help to clear up "fog of war" issues by removing more shaded areas of the map. From the perfect timing file, I also noticed that switching from that grassland to the 1-1-1 hill will give us growth in 6 turns. This matches nicely your projection of 6 turns to build the settler by making this switch. Sounds like a grand slam to me. Would you care to take this info the Governor?

May 15, 2003, 06:00 AM	#7
Rik Meleet Top predator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Nijmegen Netherlands Posts: 11,737	I would like to build my house in Gorina. Cyc would you do me the honor of allowing me to live in Gorina? I will make it my home town, heck my birthtown even... I will never RIOT or Rebel, unless some other civ, heaven forbid, will take control of Gorina, then I'll be the fiercest Resistor of Gorina until our Glorious Legions will reclaim what is rightfully ours! I will work the plains and hills, the grasslands and forests, Pick up arms, build libraries, temples and Wonders, assist in research and pay my taxes dutifully, for the greater glory of Fanatica in general and Gorina in special. P.S. Are the landprices affordable ? Else I won't come. __________________ Social life ? Sounds like fun !! Where can I download that ? This is me and this photo of me was taken February 3rd 2004 You think is fun? Then I know you're going to love the Multi-Team Demogame 2. Join by signing up in the sign up thread. Team Babe, Team The Council, Team Saber, Team Free and Team Gong await you...

May 15, 2003, 06:16 AM	#8
Cyc Looking for the door... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Behind you Posts: 14,735	From the Mayor's Office Yes, please Rik Meleet, come to Gorina. We will be proud to have you as a resident. It's good that you acted quickly as the Despot's land values are increasing as we speak. Pick a spot, any spot. You sound like an excellent citizen. If you'd like, I can make you administrator of Worker Relations. Maybe you could keep me informed of the happiness of our Workers, or which section of our city needs more work done to it. You never know, it could look good on your resume'. In any case, welcome. __________________ There is a town in north Ontario, With dream comfort memory to spare, And in my mind I still need a place to go, All my changes were there. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes. Last edited by Cyc; May 16, 2003 at 12:13 AM.

May 16, 2003, 07:12 AM	#9
Cyc Looking for the door... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Behind you Posts: 14,735	Minister of Worker Relations After a brief discussion, Rik Meleet has accepted the position of the Minister of Worker Relations for the great city of Gorina. Rik Meleet will be an advisor to the Mayor, helping us keep focus on the needs of our citizens. This could be considered an assistant Mayor position. Please join me in welcoming Rik Meleet. __________________ There is a town in north Ontario, With dream comfort memory to spare, And in my mind I still need a place to go, All my changes were there. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes.

May 16, 2003, 03:44 PM	#10
Rik Meleet Top predator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Nijmegen Netherlands Posts: 11,737	I thank you for the honor and humbly accept. __________________ Social life ? Sounds like fun !! Where can I download that ? This is me and this photo of me was taken February 3rd 2004 You think is fun? Then I know you're going to love the Multi-Team Demogame 2. Join by signing up in the sign up thread. Team Babe, Team The Council, Team Saber, Team Free and Team Gong await you...

May 16, 2003, 04:08 PM	#11
Donovan Zoi The Return Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,960	Congratulations, Rik Meleet! You should know that the good mayor takes Worker Relations very seriously. Those were the days, eh, Cyc? I would be interested in having a second hut here in Gorina. Unfortunately, I have been spending way to much time in the capital trying to make myself heard on issues that face our great nation, so my main home must remain there for now. But, hey, we did get that Settler pushed through. Please feel free to notify me if you feel you are not being properly heard on any issue, and I will be the squeaky wheel.

May 16, 2003, 07:38 PM	#12
Cyc Looking for the door... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Behind you Posts: 14,735	From the Mayor's Office Thank you, DZ. Yes, those were the days. And great work on the Settler issue. I'm sure you were the driving factor that got it pushed through. * Cyc raises his glass * Kudos to Donovan Zoi. Until you can find time to Build a home here in Gorina, know that there will be a room for you here at the Gorina Palace. __________________ There is a town in north Ontario, With dream comfort memory to spare, And in my mind I still need a place to go, All my changes were there. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes. Last edited by Cyc; Jun 05, 2003 at 11:28 PM.

May 16, 2003, 08:56 PM	#13
CivGeneral Space Ninja Ayane Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Coruscant Posts: 39,110 Images: 4	I would like to settle and Build my home in this city. If it would be possible, could I be the National Guard Commander or sonething related to the Military . (Since I am the Military Leader ) __________________ (伝統、統一、名誉、知識)* \| "Stranger in a Strange land" a Fallout 3 AAR "When you worry about what others think of you, you never get to think for yourself." - Sean Stephenson "We adventure better with arrows in our knees" - Coestar \| "Did you see the darkness of Hajin Mon?" - Ayane, DoA

May 17, 2003, 12:15 AM	#14
Cyc Looking for the door... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Behind you Posts: 14,735	From the Mayor's Office The City of Gorina is honored to have the Military Leader's presence here. There is no more secure feeling than knowing you command the Armed Forces from Gorina. We will walk safely through our streets with the knowledge they are well protected. Welcome, CivGeneral. Thank you for choosing Gorina. __________________ There is a town in north Ontario, With dream comfort memory to spare, And in my mind I still need a place to go, All my changes were there. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes. Last edited by Cyc; May 17, 2003 at 03:53 AM.

May 17, 2003, 02:54 AM	#15
Sir John The evil one... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norway, Bodø Posts: 1,834	@Cyc: Please move me permanently into Gorina. I like Gorina and as several of my rpg charcs live here, so will I... __________________ "Falling from heaven is not as painful as surviving the impact" -Tormented Angel "Hillgiants are mostly just big. But ofcourse, that counts for quite a lot!

May 17, 2003, 03:49 AM	#16
Cyc Looking for the door... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Behind you Posts: 14,735	From the Mayor's Office You got it Sir John. We were just waiting for an official post here by you. Some of our citizens have listed Gorina in the DG3 Citizen Registry as their Official Home, but I like to see some kind of post in this thread. We are very glad to have you join our city. Please feel free to join in all the future events and to speak your mind about Gorina policy at any time. Again, welcome. __________________ There is a town in north Ontario, With dream comfort memory to spare, And in my mind I still need a place to go, All my changes were there. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes.

May 18, 2003, 02:05 PM	#17
Rik Meleet Top predator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Nijmegen Netherlands Posts: 11,737	As Minister of Worker Relations of the great city of Gorina I advise our Mayor to use the roaded hill as second laborer spot, until we improve more river-side tiles. No danger of unhappiness when we hit size 2 or even size 3. We'll finish our granary in around 13 turns, depending on where, what and how many workers inprove our tiles. We need our granary for food and room for our new inhabitants. There is lillte else to advise upon, so I can dedicate my time to welcoming our new citizens; welcome Sir John, Civ general and his soldiers. __________________ Social life ? Sounds like fun !! Where can I download that ? This is me and this photo of me was taken February 3rd 2004 You think is fun? Then I know you're going to love the Multi-Team Demogame 2. Join by signing up in the sign up thread. Team Babe, Team The Council, Team Saber, Team Free and Team Gong await you...

May 18, 2003, 07:32 PM	#18
Cyc Looking for the door... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Behind you Posts: 14,735	Thank you, Rik Meleet. I agree with you totally. In fact, in my last proposal, I recomended that the laborer be put on the roaded hill. This would cut down on tranportation time . But the President thought it would be better to place the laborer in the hills with the river. Same output, really (1-1-1). With all the other adjustsments the Prez has to do, it may not be worth the effort to request a change at this time. Excellent Report, overall. Keep up the good work, Sir. __________________ There is a town in north Ontario, With dream comfort memory to spare, And in my mind I still need a place to go, All my changes were there. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes.

May 20, 2003, 02:11 PM	#20
Rik Meleet Top predator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Nijmegen Netherlands Posts: 11,737	Open letter of advice. Dear Lord Mayor of the great city of Gorina; Great you say? ...yes, great; kind suppier of room for new citizens, granter of "Minister of Worker Relations of the great city of Gorina; Great you say? ...yes, great;" titels, keeper of priceless blackbirds and proud owner of the "The 1st Cultural Minister" medal of honor, Lord Cyc. I've analysed the situation of the great city of Gorina; Great you say? ...yes, great; and my conclusions are that we have a grand future. I predict that next turn we will increase our city-size by 50%. Our granary can be finished in 4 turns, by using laborers on the roaded hill-tile and the currently-worked-on plain-tile after we grow for 2 turns and then change the laborers from the roaded hill and the plains to 2 unworked grassland tiles. Unfortunately my corruption-fighting experience makes me fear that choosing just 1 of the proposed tiles will not suffiece as 1 shield will be stolen by corruption. It seems there is a slight tendency amongst some people living in this Great city of Gorina; Great you say? ...yes, great; to put their personal gains above that of the Great city of Gorina; Great you say? ...yes, great; and Fanatica. In due time we will reduce the corruption, but we'll not be able to do that just yet. So I advise to just allow them to have it and allow them to enjoy the shield. Let's pray that Jupiter will be forgiving for them... This tile-use will lead to no gain in food for those 2 turns, but will reduce granary-production-time by 1. If we don't increase shield production by 2 we will also build 1 shield too much and it will be lost as we only need 60 shields for our granary, not 61... When the workers finish roading the plain-tile either build roads on the grassland tiles, or irrigate the plains or build a road over the iron resource just outside our borders. The latter has no short term gain as the Gorinians are working hard and have no time to build up culture, but this helps connecting Nar to our road-net in future. I also advise to discuss the current build queue, Granary - Settler - Warrior - Temple with all Citizens of Fanatica. I know you are wise beyond wise, but let's not deny all Fanticans a say in their future. I've heard this is called Demog..., err no Demok..., err no Denoc... err Temocra... err .... err ... just call it "all-Fanaticans-decide-despotism". I'm asking your decision on this, dear Lord Cyc (or Cycus / Cycius). Yours faithfully, Your loyal advisor, Minister of Worker Relations of the great city of Gorina; Great you say? ...yes, great Rik Meleet ### Daymohkrasee ?? ... err no. Demucra... no that's not it. Hang on, I'll think I'll get it right in a few thousand years... __________________ Social life ? Sounds like fun !! Where can I download that ? This is me and this photo of me was taken February 3rd 2004 You think is fun? Then I know you're going to love the Multi-Team Demogame 2. Join by signing up in the sign up thread. Team Babe, Team The Council, Team Saber, Team Free and Team Gong await you... Last edited by Rik Meleet; May 20, 2003 at 02:14 PM.

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