Unofficial SOTD

Cannon · Sep 30, 2003, 04:10 PM

In a recent game I had pushed the English back to a crappy island at the northwest tip of our 'once shared' continent. Later on in the game when I had some cash to blow, I took a look at their 'new' capitol. I was surprised to see that both their palace and forbidden palace were located there. The FP even generates more CPT because it was there longer.....

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Superevie · Sep 30, 2003, 04:12 PM

That's funky. Is there a specific problem you have with this, or did you just think it was weird?

Cannon · Sep 30, 2003, 04:18 PM

No problem with it......I just thought it was something you would rarely see in the game so I posted it.

Superevie · Sep 30, 2003, 04:19 PM

It is interesting.

It is a waste of resources for the English, though. That FP should be somewhere else.

Santiago · Sep 30, 2003, 04:24 PM

It isn't because England is stupid and built the FP in the same city as their capital. It's becasue the old capital was captured and the capital was changed to the next best (sometimes best) city. This city happened to have the Forbidden Palace in it. There's really nothing the AI could do about it at the moment. Most people would move the capital as soon as possible, but the AI isn't as smart as most people.

carlosMM · Sep 30, 2003, 07:11 PM

It *is* weird the FP got built on that island... show why you should NEVER let the governour take over production.

MadScot · Sep 30, 2003, 07:19 PM

I've had the palace and the FP in the same city, too. Very annoying it was. (It wasn't supposed to be that way, obviously). I should have a screenshot of it somewhere.

RegentMan · Sep 30, 2003, 11:23 PM

It won't matter where it is for the English if they're in a communism. That's an advantage of having your FP in your capital.

Krayzeenbk · Oct 02, 2003, 05:32 AM

[pedantic]The forbidden palace generates 2 cpt from the start, so you can't really say it's been in the city longer because it generates more culture, though that is obviously the case. Now if it were generating 4 culture and the palace 1, then you could say that.[/pedantic]

Ankka · Oct 02, 2003, 06:08 AM

Hehe... I got an idea: you could use it for an advantage when trying t get a 20k win. Very easy and nice, so easy to organize...

And all that for only perhaps 1cpt...

Pirate · Oct 02, 2003, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wizard
Hehe... I got an idea: you could use it for an advantage when trying t get a 20k win. Very easy and nice, so easy to organize... And all that for only perhaps 1cpt...

Can you build (or prebuild) a palace in a city with a Forbidden Palace? Or would you have to rely on a capital jump to get them in the same city?

Krayzeenbk · Oct 02, 2003, 06:43 AM

Yes, you can.

The Last Conformist · Oct 02, 2003, 02:10 PM

The very first time I built the FP, I didn't care to check out its actual effect before building it, so of course I built it in my capital ...

Santiago · Oct 02, 2003, 04:19 PM

Was this a bug in the earlier game? I don't think you build the FP in your capital. At least not in my version (PTW, latest patch). I don't know, I never tried to build it in my capital before so it could be possible. I don't pay much attention to the building options. I just go straight for what I want.

RegentMan · Oct 02, 2003, 04:40 PM

I don't think you can build your palace in your FP city.

Strider · Oct 02, 2003, 05:18 PM

Awesome... Waste of resource's, but still cool.

I don't think it makes a huge differance though... if the english are just those 4 cities... then corruption is not that bad for them.

Cannon · Oct 02, 2003, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strider
... if the english are just those 4 cities...

.... yes, *sniff* , sadly they are.....

Chieftess · Oct 02, 2003, 07:01 PM

They could have started it there before the palace was moved, and when it was finished, the palace could have already been there.

vbraun · Oct 03, 2003, 06:32 PM

Somehow I have had that happen to me some how. But now I can't remeber how i did it...

MadScot · Oct 03, 2003, 06:51 PM

Of course, if the game treated the Forbidden Palace as an 'emergency second capital' - as might be more 'reasonable' - then what would happen is that n losing your capital city, the government would relocate to the FP city - not some other, but bigger, city - and the FP would become your Palace.

People without an FP would perhaps suffer anarchy or something for a while to show the dislocation of administration.

Then you'd have to build the FP again, somewhere else.

But since buildings can't convert to other building AFAIK, thats not going to happen, even in a mod.

Sep 30, 2003, 04:10 PM	#1
Cannon YHVH has a son Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: upside yo head Posts: 153	Unofficial SOTD In a recent game I had pushed the English back to a crappy island at the northwest tip of our 'once shared' continent. Later on in the game when I had some cash to blow, I took a look at their 'new' capitol. I was surprised to see that both their palace and forbidden palace were located there. The FP even generates more CPT because it was there longer..... just scroll down __________________ Is there no honour amongst nerds?

Sep 30, 2003, 04:18 PM	#3
Cannon YHVH has a son Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: upside yo head Posts: 153	No problem with it......I just thought it was something you would rarely see in the game so I posted it. __________________ Is there no honour amongst nerds?

Sep 30, 2003, 07:19 PM	#7
MadScot Brandy's back! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: La Belle Province Posts: 1,444	I've had the palace and the FP in the same city, too. Very annoying it was. (It wasn't supposed to be that way, obviously). I should have a screenshot of it somewhere. __________________ The Board Game Civilzation was not released in 2002! I thoroughly recommend Frank Cho's Liberty Meadows

Sep 30, 2003, 11:23 PM	#8
RegentMan Deity Join Date: May 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 6,853	It won't matter where it is for the English if they're in a communism. That's an advantage of having your FP in your capital. __________________ Play League of Legends? Come discuss with other CFCers here!

Oct 02, 2003, 02:10 PM	#13
The Last Conformist Irresistibly Attractive Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Not on your side Posts: 27,780	The very first time I built the FP, I didn't care to check out its actual effect before building it, so of course I built it in my capital ... __________________ Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else? CivIII stuff: Hexette (16x16 World Map), The Classic Maya Scenario, Resource gfx, Other gfx, ACW C3C

Sep 30, 2003, 04:12 PM	#2
Superevie Latina Goddess™ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wishing I Was Here Posts: 1,963	That's funky. Is there a specific problem you have with this, or did you just think it was weird?

Sep 30, 2003, 04:19 PM	#4
Superevie Latina Goddess™ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wishing I Was Here Posts: 1,963	It is interesting. It is a waste of resources for the English, though. That FP should be somewhere else.

Sep 30, 2003, 04:24 PM	#5
Santiago Chieftain Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA Posts: 88	It isn't because England is stupid and built the FP in the same city as their capital. It's becasue the old capital was captured and the capital was changed to the next best (sometimes best) city. This city happened to have the Forbidden Palace in it. There's really nothing the AI could do about it at the moment. Most people would move the capital as soon as possible, but the AI isn't as smart as most people.

Sep 30, 2003, 07:11 PM	#6
carlosMM Deity Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 8,535	It is weird the FP got built on that island... show why you should NEVER let the governour take over production.

Oct 02, 2003, 05:32 AM	#9
Krayzeenbk Rocket Constructor Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,018	[pedantic]The forbidden palace generates 2 cpt from the start, so you can't really say it's been in the city longer because it generates more culture, though that is obviously the case. Now if it were generating 4 culture and the palace 1, then you could say that.[/pedantic]

Oct 02, 2003, 06:08 AM	#10
Ankka Deity Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 7,299	Hehe... I got an idea: you could use it for an advantage when trying t get a 20k win. Very easy and nice, so easy to organize... And all that for only perhaps 1cpt...

Oct 02, 2003, 06:43 AM	#12
Krayzeenbk Rocket Constructor Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,018	Yes, you can.

Oct 02, 2003, 04:19 PM	#14
Santiago Chieftain Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA Posts: 88	Was this a bug in the earlier game? I don't think you build the FP in your capital. At least not in my version (PTW, latest patch). I don't know, I never tried to build it in my capital before so it could be possible. I don't pay much attention to the building options. I just go straight for what I want.

Oct 02, 2003, 04:40 PM	#15
RegentMan Deity Join Date: May 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 6,853	I don't think you can build your palace in your FP city. __________________ Play League of Legends? Come discuss with other CFCers here!

Oct 02, 2003, 05:18 PM	#16
Strider In Retrospect Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 8,976	Awesome... Waste of resource's, but still cool. I don't think it makes a huge differance though... if the english are just those 4 cities... then corruption is not that bad for them. __________________ We pen our fates on the parchment of time. While turning to pages yet unwritten. But do our stories end once the ink has dried? Are the echoes of history all that remain of the past? #454158

Oct 02, 2003, 07:01 PM	#18
Chieftess Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Baltimore Posts: 23,547	They could have started it there before the palace was moved, and when it was finished, the palace could have already been there. __________________ "Never trust an Aztec with nukes!" (Civ1 - unknown) \| 2nd user of the Ancient Style. South America (based on El Mencey's Map) \| N & S America (based on El Mencey's Map) \| C3C Scenario: 7,000 Turns Civ2 Earth for C3C \| Old Style Civ3 for C3C \| "Future is Wild" map How to upload multiple files to a post \| File Upload \| Paint Shop Pro 3.11 shareware (screenshot util - doesn't expire) \| Chieftess' Culture Flip Calc \| Don't wind up like this AI! \| resource icons file To download a patch: Select "Advanced" from the main menu, and go to "Check for Updates". \|\| My Web Journal (yes, it's a "blog")

Oct 03, 2003, 06:32 PM	#19
vbraun Raytracing Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 3,530 Images: 2	Somehow I have had that happen to me some how. But now I can't remeber how i did it... __________________ Think you're a good musician? This piece will be sure to kick your butt. Civ4Wiki is the (soon to be) best location for all Civ4 info! Civ3 stuff: Units (5), Tech Icons (24)

Oct 03, 2003, 06:51 PM	#20
MadScot Brandy's back! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: La Belle Province Posts: 1,444	Of course, if the game treated the Forbidden Palace as an 'emergency second capital' - as might be more 'reasonable' - then what would happen is that n losing your capital city, the government would relocate to the FP city - not some other, but bigger, city - and the FP would become your Palace. People without an FP would perhaps suffer anarchy or something for a while to show the dislocation of administration. Then you'd have to build the FP again, somewhere else. But since buildings can't convert to other building AFAIK, thats not going to happen, even in a mod. __________________ The Board Game Civilzation was not released in 2002! I thoroughly recommend Frank Cho's Liberty Meadows

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