Enkidu Warrior

thestonesfan · Nov 10, 2003, 06:13 AM

I'm sure most players have noticed this, but I didn't see it on the boards.

The Enkidu Warrior attack animation is kind of messed up. He drops to a position much lower in the square and then starts his stick-jab attack. It's a little jarring.

aaglo · Nov 13, 2003, 06:11 AM

Oh my...

well, nevermind....

thestonesfan · Nov 13, 2003, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aaglo
Oh my...

well, nevermind....

Geesh, some people...

Flamegrape · Nov 13, 2003, 01:54 PM

I have noticed something else with the Enkidu Warrior. Shouldn't it upgrade to a Swordsman instead? It's a warrior, so it follows that it should upgrade to a Swordsman, just like the Warrior.

player1 fanatic · Nov 13, 2003, 02:48 PM

If it would upgrade to Swordsmen, what unit would Sumerian use for defense?

Arrian · Nov 14, 2003, 07:04 AM

It upgrades to a pikeman.

I too figured it would go to a sword... and was somewhat annoyed when I found it didn't. It makes sense that it sticks with a defensive upgrade path, but it does shut off the warrior -> sword upgrade for Sumer. *shrug*

-Arrian

Grille · Nov 14, 2003, 07:18 AM

Interesting, just picked the Sumerians for my first game. Iron is currently unconnected, but I was assuming the sword upgrade path as well...

on topic: I'm either blinded by all that new stuff or I just like the attack/defend animations of the Enkidu warrior...

thestonesfan · Nov 14, 2003, 07:37 AM

That's strange. Maybe I should re-install it?

Grille · Nov 14, 2003, 07:59 AM

Hmm. Dunno.

Maybe you could post a screenie where the Enkidu 'drops to a much lower position in the square', i.e. gets somehow smaller(?) if I understood correctly(?).

Anyways, I'll draw much more attention to the Enkidu's animation tonite (including aesthetic 'measurement'

).

Edit: Now I see. Enkidu *shifts* somehow... Totally agree, it is looking strange.

Puppeteer · Nov 14, 2003, 01:40 PM

I tried to get screenshots of this, but apparently you can't snap a new screenshot during battle, or at least I couldn't do it.

Here's the sequence of events for an attack:

Command EW to move into enemy tile
EW advances partway to new tile correctly aligned
EW starts attacking, and right as the attack animation starts the EW drops a couple of pixels and is no longer vertically centered in the "team color disc" circle throughout the attack animations.
Upon victory the EW returns to proper alignment for the victory and move animations.
I failed to notice how the death animation is aligned upon defeat.

Puppeteer · Nov 14, 2003, 01:52 PM

My guess is that the EnkiduWarrior_attack.flc is misaligned. I used Flc2Gif to convert the attack and run animations and the attack animation for the Chasquis Scout to compare the alignment, but each GIF created from these flc's by Flc2Gif is a different size, so I don't know how to compare alignment. Interestingly the EW attack animation is much larger than the others with tons of "white space" around the animation.

Due to the sizes I'll just post links, not images:
EW attack (211k animated gif)
EW run (114k animated gif)
Chasquis Scout attack (173k animated gif) (for comparison)

(edit) To attempt to compare alignment, I took one of the last frames of the attack and run animations and divided them into quadrants to locate the center. The results seem backwards from what I expected:

Attack is on the left, run is on the right. I believe both units have at least one foot on the ground in each frame. The run animation has an odd number of rows so one of the divider lines is one thick instead of two.

Mithadan · Feb 12, 2007, 10:32 PM

Three years worth of necromancy, yes, I'm bumping this age-old thread.

Does anybody know if this bug has been fixed? I couldn't find anything on the search.

watorrey · Feb 13, 2007, 01:41 AM

If you're running C3C 1.22 and it's in there, then it's not fixed and never will be officially. Perhaps someone may fix the animation but i doubt it since it means messing with copyrighted artwork.

Puppeteer · Feb 17, 2007, 09:21 PM

I came here to file a bug report and was surprised to see a dot indicating a thread I had posted in.

Firaxis/whoever isn't going to fix this. However, I suspect a unit modder could fix this since it appears (to me) to be a fixable graphics goof. You might try posting in the mod section requesting a modder to fix it. Who knows, maybe someone already has?

EDIT: I haven't played or fought Sumeria in a while, so I haven't even seen for myself if this is still a problem in the final patch (1.22).

EDIT 2: I searched the file db and mod area and found nothing except this thread on the same subject with no files.

Nov 10, 2003, 06:13 AM	#1
thestonesfan A Client of Ron Kuby Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 7,549	Enkidu Warrior I'm sure most players have noticed this, but I didn't see it on the boards. The Enkidu Warrior attack animation is kind of messed up. He drops to a position much lower in the square and then starts his stick-jab attack. It's a little jarring. __________________ What a drag it is gettin' old.

Nov 13, 2003, 06:11 AM	#2
aaglo Furioso! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Planet Baal Posts: 8,184 Images: 1	Oh my... well, nevermind.... __________________ R.I.P. Stormrage, my partner in Green Warhammer Fantasy mod 2.5 for Civ3Conquests - HistoriCanada - Civ3-mod about canadian history My Civ3-unitsMy all other Civ3-graphicsThings for me to do. It's not an optical illusion - it only looks like it...

Nov 14, 2003, 07:04 AM	#6
Arrian Warlord Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Middletown, CT, USA Posts: 255	It upgrades to a pikeman. I too figured it would go to a sword... and was somewhat annoyed when I found it didn't. It makes sense that it sticks with a defensive upgrade path, but it does shut off the warrior -> sword upgrade for Sumer. shrug -Arrian __________________ grog want tank... Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

Nov 14, 2003, 07:37 AM	#8
thestonesfan A Client of Ron Kuby Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 7,549	That's strange. Maybe I should re-install it? __________________ What a drag it is gettin' old.

Nov 14, 2003, 07:59 AM	#9
Grille panel insect Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Kiel, Germany Posts: 2,709	Hmm. Dunno. Maybe you could post a screenie where the Enkidu 'drops to a much lower position in the square', i.e. gets somehow smaller(?) if I understood correctly(?). Anyways, I'll draw much more attention to the Enkidu's animation tonite (including aesthetic 'measurement'). Edit: Now I see. Enkidu shifts somehow... Totally agree, it is looking strange. Last edited by Grille; Nov 14, 2003 at 08:43 AM.

Nov 13, 2003, 01:54 PM	#4
Flamegrape Warlord Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: United States Posts: 242	I have noticed something else with the Enkidu Warrior. Shouldn't it upgrade to a Swordsman instead? It's a warrior, so it follows that it should upgrade to a Swordsman, just like the Warrior.

Nov 13, 2003, 02:48 PM	#5
player1 fanatic Deity Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 2,129	If it would upgrade to Swordsmen, what unit would Sumerian use for defense?

Nov 14, 2003, 07:18 AM	#7
Grille panel insect Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Kiel, Germany Posts: 2,709	Interesting, just picked the Sumerians for my first game. Iron is currently unconnected, but I was assuming the sword upgrade path as well... on topic: I'm either blinded by all that new stuff or I just like the attack/defend animations of the Enkidu warrior...

Nov 14, 2003, 01:40 PM	#10
Puppeteer King Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW, Texas USA Posts: 797	I tried to get screenshots of this, but apparently you can't snap a new screenshot during battle, or at least I couldn't do it. Here's the sequence of events for an attack: Command EW to move into enemy tile EW advances partway to new tile correctly aligned EW starts attacking, and right as the attack animation starts the EW drops a couple of pixels and is no longer vertically centered in the "team color disc" circle throughout the attack animations. Upon victory the EW returns to proper alignment for the victory and move animations. I failed to notice how the death animation is aligned upon defeat. __________________ Smiley mood badges - easy to see happiness \| Nationality civ color flags - great for warmongers \| Install CivIII on Win7 Video -also works for Vista/Win8 Last edited by Puppeteer; Nov 14, 2003 at 01:56 PM.

Nov 14, 2003, 01:52 PM	#11
Puppeteer King Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW, Texas USA Posts: 797	My guess is that the EnkiduWarrior_attack.flc is misaligned. I used Flc2Gif to convert the attack and run animations and the attack animation for the Chasquis Scout to compare the alignment, but each GIF created from these flc's by Flc2Gif is a different size, so I don't know how to compare alignment. Interestingly the EW attack animation is much larger than the others with tons of "white space" around the animation. Due to the sizes I'll just post links, not images: EW attack (211k animated gif) EW run (114k animated gif) Chasquis Scout attack (173k animated gif) (for comparison) (edit) To attempt to compare alignment, I took one of the last frames of the attack and run animations and divided them into quadrants to locate the center. The results seem backwards from what I expected: Attack is on the left, run is on the right. I believe both units have at least one foot on the ground in each frame. The run animation has an odd number of rows so one of the divider lines is one thick instead of two. __________________ Smiley mood badges - easy to see happiness \| Nationality civ color flags - great for warmongers \| Install CivIII on Win7 Video -also works for Vista/Win8 Last edited by Puppeteer; Nov 14, 2003 at 02:30 PM.

Feb 12, 2007, 10:32 PM	#12
Mithadan Wandering Woodsman Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alberta über alles ;) Posts: 4,021	Three years worth of necromancy, yes, I'm bumping this age-old thread. Does anybody know if this bug has been fixed? I couldn't find anything on the search. __________________ "Seeking self, I find nothing but myself, but in this I drink the cup of gall I really am." -- William Desmond ----- "I'm not a fan of censoring history." -- gorn

Feb 13, 2007, 01:41 AM	#13
watorrey Deity Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Rochester, NY, USA Posts: 2,007	If you're running C3C 1.22 and it's in there, then it's not fixed and never will be officially. Perhaps someone may fix the animation but i doubt it since it means messing with copyrighted artwork. __________________ 1.22(f?) -- Supreme Lord: http://watorrey.net For better barbarians, add NoAIPatrol=0 to conquests.ini All Conquest & scenario players, map & mod makers: World size bug alert

Feb 17, 2007, 09:21 PM	#14
Puppeteer King Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW, Texas USA Posts: 797	I came here to file a bug report and was surprised to see a dot indicating a thread I had posted in. Firaxis/whoever isn't going to fix this. However, I suspect a unit modder could fix this since it appears (to me) to be a fixable graphics goof. You might try posting in the mod section requesting a modder to fix it. Who knows, maybe someone already has? EDIT: I haven't played or fought Sumeria in a while, so I haven't even seen for myself if this is still a problem in the final patch (1.22). EDIT 2: I searched the file db and mod area and found nothing except this thread on the same subject with no files. __________________ Smiley mood badges - easy to see happiness \| Nationality civ color flags - great for warmongers \| Install CivIII on Win7 Video -also works for Vista/Win8 Last edited by Puppeteer; Feb 20, 2007 at 09:52 AM. Reason: disclaimer / mod search

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