Upgrades

Sarevok · Nov 15, 2003, 06:24 PM

I was thinking of in addition to the unit numbers, there should also be techs that steadily increase some unit's power in some way. For example, when you first get mech infatry, they should be relatively low stats, around infantry stats, just with extra movement. after a few techs though, they will be faster and become more able to face the challenges of the modern day. aols to have a tech giving helecopters the ability to carry AT units and steady increacings in ship movement as new engine technologies come through would be cool.

FenrysWulf · Nov 15, 2003, 06:36 PM

Yeah, your idea makes sense. Another example is infantry units. When they start out, they are World War I era units, but over time they would get better guns, eventually using M-16s or AK-47s, which would make them much more powerful.

Sarevok · Nov 15, 2003, 08:57 PM

a slight change in graphics would do. im also looking specifically at tanks. from Mk 4's to T-34's to Tigers to M-60's and so on.

CIVPhilzilla · Nov 16, 2003, 06:55 AM

Yea that would be awesome and much more realistic.

troytheface · Nov 16, 2003, 07:29 AM

there seems to be a mix of ww1 ww2 in the game. Bi planes blimps and ol lumbering tanks would have been nice. Then an upgrade. But all in all i would rather have moving rivers/water, fish and weather.

zorven · Nov 16, 2003, 09:14 AM

I think you could do this with the editor. For each tech you want a unit to increase its stats, add a new unit with the same cost as the base unit but with the better stats, new name and graphic. This way you get the better unit and the upgrade will be free. (I haven't tested this, but believe it would work).

Strider · Nov 16, 2003, 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by zorven
I think you could do this with the editor. For each tech you want a unit to increase its stats, add a new unit with the same cost as the base unit but with the better stats, new name and graphic. This way you get the better unit and the upgrade will be free. (I haven't tested this, but believe it would work).

It would work, but it'll be VERY annoying to do... not only to mention all the extra graphics your need.

The Last Conformist · Nov 16, 2003, 09:37 AM

It works, and most of the graphics you'd need can be found in the Creation and Customization Forum.

What I've always found mildly amusing is that the Guerilla has an automatic gun, whereas the Infantry has not, yet they come at the same time, and Inf is the better unit.

Strider · Nov 16, 2003, 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by The Last Conformist
It works, and most of the graphics you'd need can be found in the Creation and Customization Forum.

What I've always found mildly amusing is that the Guerilla has an automatic gun, whereas the Infantry has not, yet they come at the same time, and Inf is the better unit.

I guess the infantry is a better shot

(or better trained)

Anyway.... You can find most of the graphics you need in Creation & Custmization, but you have to find them.. then download them.. then create the unit stats etc. inside of the editor.. then test out your new "map" and fix any errors you've made.

The Last Conformist · Nov 16, 2003, 09:40 AM

I didn't say it was trivial ...

CIVPhilzilla · Nov 16, 2003, 05:45 PM

Guerilla is a really bad shot, he sprays with his AK (i think) then just starts jabbing the dude with his bayonett.

Sarevok · Nov 17, 2003, 10:28 PM

i believe that the DYP mod does it nicely, but id prefer if the game actually did it.

kokoras · Nov 18, 2003, 03:42 AM

The idea of upgrating is already in the game,what i think is simply that there could be more units.For example Infantry/Mech.infantry.As you say there is a diference between ww1 and ww2 infantry,so there is space for one more.This counts for all tecnologies/units.To tell you the truth i thowght that the Conquests ex.sould involve a higher number of epic units.Instead they have added only 8.So,the idea of upgrate is right,only that i would prefer having new units ready,and not to create them by myself in the editor(which i want do).

Sarevok · Nov 18, 2003, 11:03 PM

also,the mech infantry jump is a tad steep, as is muskets to the repeating rifle.

Nov 15, 2003, 06:24 PM	#1
Sarevok Civ3 Scenario Creator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 8,408	Upgrades I was thinking of in addition to the unit numbers, there should also be techs that steadily increase some unit's power in some way. For example, when you first get mech infatry, they should be relatively low stats, around infantry stats, just with extra movement. after a few techs though, they will be faster and become more able to face the challenges of the modern day. aols to have a tech giving helecopters the ability to carry AT units and steady increacings in ship movement as new engine technologies come through would be cool. __________________ Scenario's: Barbarossa 1.2 C3C, The Great War C3C, The Old Empires C3C and PTW, The Three Kingdoms C3C, Red Europe PTW, Blue Europe PTW, Red Europe Aftermath PTW, LOTR: Return of the King PTW, LOTR: The Two Towers PTW - Rei

Nov 15, 2003, 06:36 PM	#2
FenrysWulf Evil Norse Wolf Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 373	Yeah, your idea makes sense. Another example is infantry units. When they start out, they are World War I era units, but over time they would get better guns, eventually using M-16s or AK-47s, which would make them much more powerful. __________________ Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war!

Nov 15, 2003, 08:57 PM	#3
Sarevok Civ3 Scenario Creator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 8,408	a slight change in graphics would do. im also looking specifically at tanks. from Mk 4's to T-34's to Tigers to M-60's and so on. __________________ Scenario's: Barbarossa 1.2 C3C, The Great War C3C, The Old Empires C3C and PTW, The Three Kingdoms C3C, Red Europe PTW, Blue Europe PTW, Red Europe Aftermath PTW, LOTR: Return of the King PTW, LOTR: The Two Towers PTW - Rei

Nov 16, 2003, 06:55 AM	#4
CIVPhilzilla Reagan Republican Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 4,714	Yea that would be awesome and much more realistic. __________________ "To live under the American Constitution is the greatest political privilege that was ever accorded to the human race." -Calvin Coolidge Economic Left/Right: 10 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: .51

Nov 16, 2003, 09:14 AM	#6
zorven 12,000 Suns Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,961	I think you could do this with the editor. For each tech you want a unit to increase its stats, add a new unit with the same cost as the base unit but with the better stats, new name and graphic. This way you get the better unit and the upgrade will be free. (I haven't tested this, but believe it would work). __________________ "Slander, lies, character assassination--these things are a threat to every single citizen everywhere in this country. And when even one American--who has done nothing wrong--is forced by fear to shut his mind and close his mouth, then all Americans are in peril" - Harry S. Truman, Address at the Dedication of the New Washington Headquarters of the American Legion, August 14, 1951 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

Nov 16, 2003, 07:29 AM	#5
troytheface Deity Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,262	there seems to be a mix of ww1 ww2 in the game. Bi planes blimps and ol lumbering tanks would have been nice. Then an upgrade. But all in all i would rather have moving rivers/water, fish and weather.

Nov 16, 2003, 09:37 AM	#8
The Last Conformist Irresistibly Attractive Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Not on your side Posts: 27,780	It works, and most of the graphics you'd need can be found in the Creation and Customization Forum. What I've always found mildly amusing is that the Guerilla has an automatic gun, whereas the Infantry has not, yet they come at the same time, and Inf is the better unit. __________________ Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else? CivIII stuff: Hexette (16x16 World Map), The Classic Maya Scenario, Resource gfx, Other gfx, ACW C3C

Nov 16, 2003, 09:40 AM	#10
The Last Conformist Irresistibly Attractive Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Not on your side Posts: 27,780	I didn't say it was trivial ... __________________ Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else? CivIII stuff: Hexette (16x16 World Map), The Classic Maya Scenario, Resource gfx, Other gfx, ACW C3C

Nov 16, 2003, 05:45 PM	#11
CIVPhilzilla Reagan Republican Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 4,714	Guerilla is a really bad shot, he sprays with his AK (i think) then just starts jabbing the dude with his bayonett. __________________ "To live under the American Constitution is the greatest political privilege that was ever accorded to the human race." -Calvin Coolidge Economic Left/Right: 10 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: .51

Nov 17, 2003, 10:28 PM	#12
Sarevok Civ3 Scenario Creator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 8,408	i believe that the DYP mod does it nicely, but id prefer if the game actually did it. __________________ Scenario's: Barbarossa 1.2 C3C, The Great War C3C, The Old Empires C3C and PTW, The Three Kingdoms C3C, Red Europe PTW, Blue Europe PTW, Red Europe Aftermath PTW, LOTR: Return of the King PTW, LOTR: The Two Towers PTW - Rei

Nov 18, 2003, 03:42 AM	#13
kokoras Bizarre Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Athens Posts: 419	The idea of upgrating is already in the game,what i think is simply that there could be more units.For example Infantry/Mech.infantry.As you say there is a diference between ww1 and ww2 infantry,so there is space for one more.This counts for all tecnologies/units.To tell you the truth i thowght that the Conquests ex.sould involve a higher number of epic units.Instead they have added only 8.So,the idea of upgrate is right,only that i would prefer having new units ready,and not to create them by myself in the editor(which i want do). __________________ Give Peace A Chance...Or Else...

Nov 18, 2003, 11:03 PM	#14
Sarevok Civ3 Scenario Creator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 8,408	also,the mech infantry jump is a tad steep, as is muskets to the repeating rifle. __________________ Scenario's: Barbarossa 1.2 C3C, The Great War C3C, The Old Empires C3C and PTW, The Three Kingdoms C3C, Red Europe PTW, Blue Europe PTW, Red Europe Aftermath PTW, LOTR: Return of the King PTW, LOTR: The Two Towers PTW - Rei

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