Improvemnts & Wonders Editor Questions

[Bane Star]

So, I have a Question, I'm trying to make Wonders Positive and Negative, Like a wonder that has production bonus, but happiness negative... Is this HEx editable in the biq? since its not avail in the editor...

Second Q. How do I created second or further palaces/Forb,Palaces ? The 'corruption' flag in the wonders does not give a building F.Palace status.... I need 4 Palaces and 2 F.Palaces for my 360x360 Map with 4 seperate starting locations...

Third Q, With buildings assigned to a Government, If the govt changes do the building dissapear as well as stop working? or just stop working?

[Straczynski]

1) It's on the editor... Just below "Required Resources", you'll see the "Happy/Unhappy Faces" block.

2) It's the "Reduces Corruption" flag that gives a Wonder the Forbidden-Palace-like status.

3) AFAIK, they just stop working. If you return to the needed government, they'll be back in action.

[Bane Star]

A), No sorry you got that wrong... The Unhappy makes unhappy people to Content, and Happy makes unhappy or content to Happy

I wish to make people from happy to UNhappy, like they are Discontent becuase the production building is pumping out too much pollution or something

B) also wrong, The reduces corruption flag in Wonders does NOT make them like forbidden palace...

these Two I'm sure might be editable in the Biq using a hex editor and I was wondering if anyone has seen/discovered or played with this....?

C) thankyou.

[Drift]

Originally posted by Bane Star
A), No sorry you got that wrong... The Unhappy makes unhappy people to Content, and Happy makes unhappy or content to Happy

I'm 95% certain that Straczynski got that right. I have used improvements that produce unhappy faces and they work. Also, editor's help agrees with me. The unhappy/happy are really the amount of happy or unhappy faces the improvement/wonder produces. For example, I've had gallows with unhappy face of 1 and it did produce that one unhappy face.

B) also wrong, The reduces corruption flag in Wonders does NOT make them like forbidden palace...

You have to check the "removes corruption" flag on the wonder and small wonder attributes, not city improvements. It does work.

[Bane Star]

OMG, I feel like an Idiot.... everything I was testing wasn't working and I read some of the problems I was having were the same problems that others were having.... I didn''t even know that the scenario editor actually locks starting governments, so that the game rules 'starting gov' is ignored... All my buildings with unhappyness and My 'second Palaces, were Govt Specific... So thats why nothing was working

My sincerest appologies for my prior posts, can a Moderator Delete this entire thread??

[Drift]

Originally posted by Bane Star
A)Strange, I cannot get it to work then, I have a city with the 'Chaos Pits' which produces pollution and has unhappy city of 3 , and unhappy continent of 1, didn't change anything... I shall have a look at the file...

Have you tried it with just 3 unhappy faces in city or just with one unhappy face on continent? To be completely honest, I havent run tests about this and don't have absolute proof about it working. However, the improvements with unhappy faces have red faces on them in the list about city's improvements. It's also so common a feature modders use, that it would be very surprising if it didn't work as advertised.

B)Yes I have discovered the problem with Forbidden palace, it doesn't work, Conquests Bug fault apparently, I have the wonder flag ticked, both for the original and my 'second palace' and I placed them into cities, both via the editor and In game, No effect on corruption in any case, and then I checked the Bug lists here and Poly, and apparently it has been noticed that the forbidden palace doesn't work at all.

I thought it happens only with communal corruption, so is the government you ran the tests under a one with communal corruption?